The Great Khali vs. John Cena

[Y 2 Jake]

Unfortunatley with Taker injury this could be bumped up to the main event. Originally I thought it would just be a mid card match. It's either that or Batista/Henry which I think will happen. The card's taken a turn for the worst either way.

 

[watchingandwaiting]

I blame this whole angle on Randy Orton. The four-way fued over the title was such a great storyline that I can't think of any other reason to suddenly throw a Khali/Cena fued other than as a way of getting Orton out of the main event picture. The saddest part is how many people are getting screwed by this. Obviously, HBK and Edge, since they seem to be taken out of the title picture. Cena is getting screwed because he goes from being able to put on some good matches with great workers to have to dodge karate chops from Khali. Khali is getting screwed because he's going to lose his undefeated streak. Whoever was originally going to end Khali's streak is getting royally screwed since they are now gonna lose that HUGE rub they would have otherwise gotten. And obviously, the fans are getting screwed worst of all since I highly doubt there is a single person who would rather see a Cena/Khali angle instead of a continuation of the 4 way fued.

So yeah..Thanks Randy..super job and keep up the good work..

 

[mork83]

I don't mind when they have feuds, when you know the champion is going to win, in order to simply make him look stronger. However, they don't need to do that anymore and I thought that's what Cena/Umaga was a few months ago. There was little chance Umaga would win and it was a way to keep the title on Cena until Wrestlemania.

Plus, I don't remember all the details, but didn't they pretape and edit an Undertaker/Khali match because it couldn't go live? That's pretty bad and the Undertaker can make a big man look a lot better than Cena can. Hopefully, they throw HBK, Edge, Orton, and maybe Lashley/Umaga to at least keep the focus off Khali.

 

[jackyb317]

Cena's title reign is an absolute joke now. We all knew he'd retain his belt at backlash because it was a fatal four way, and the title never changes hands in a fatal four way (single's match). In any event, Cena as champion is just plain pathetic now. It's almost as if they dont want ANYONE else to hold the title. We all know the great freaking khali isnt going to win the title (he needs to be fired because he's not entertaining and can't wrestle), but will anyone beat cena? I want to know who because right now they are making Cena look like God. John cena is not the Rock, nor will he ever be. As much as the writers want him to be, he wont be anywhere near that level. He's a washup.

 

[shawnmichaelsfan2007]

Cena's title reign is an absolute joke now. We all knew he'd retain his belt at backlash because it was a fatal four way, and the title never changes hands in a fatal four way (single's match). In any event, Cena as champion is just plain pathetic now. It's almost as if they dont want ANYONE else to hold the title. We all know the great freaking khali isnt going to win the title (he needs to be fired because he's not entertaining and can't wrestle), but will anyone beat cena? I want to know who because right now they are making Cena look like God. John cena is not the Rock, nor will he ever be. As much as the writers want him to be, he wont be anywhere near that level. He's a

all i have to says is cena is a joke cena is vince's pet he won't let him lose his title until triple h comes back and cena can't wrestle even if he is champ he sucks as wwe champion and always comes up with the win i am sick of him being camp i hate john cena and y did thy even let somebody in the wwe like the great kahli and wat was they thinking whn they let him in

 

[pounanni]

Dumb Idea having this happen..... the good thing though is that it will probably lead to the burial of Khali, so we wont have to see him around for much longer after this.

BTW Big Ace, why send me a warning on a petty comment, let me know how to talk to you personally and I will (maturely....) let you know how I feel about the situation. For now this is the only way I know to get your attention.

 

[xxxpounce92]

you see what i think is that they should let khali win the title then give him an ingury from who knows what but then have the title up 4 grabs and have a tornement cuz cena havin the title is a joke thats wwhat i think and yea i no its the same with khali but cenas fans are startin to die and the really need a anew chapion

 

[shawnmichaelsfan2007]

ya that should happen and like u said they should have tourments like they did with the women's championship when trish reited cause i am sick of cena being champ

 

[watchingandwaiting]

you see what i think is that they should let khali win the title then give him an ingury from who knows what but then have the title up 4 grabs and have a tornement cuz cena havin the title is a joke thats wwhat i think and yea i no its the same with khali but cenas fans are startin to die and the really need a anew chapion

no that's actually a terrible idea. whoever beats cena for the belt will be put over huge just based on how long cena has held the belt, regardless of what you think about him as a wrestler. There is no possible way Khali should get that kind of push. If WWE is stupid enough to let Khali get that rub, then him just vacating the belt is an even worse idea since the only reason Khali should have the belt would be to put some midcarder over as a giant-slayer to win his first title reign (think Umaga and Santino Morella). By having Khali just vacate the title, you not only de-value the title even more, but you almost make it almost impossible for any midcarder to make the jump to main event level.

 

[shawnmichaelsfan2007]

so wat ur sayin it a orrible idea to do tat i tink tey sould ii want cena to lose is belt so badly

 

[TheBoss]

Well, from what I've seen, it's OBVIOUS Khali isn't taking the title. They're gonna probably have some huge moment where Cena FU's Khali to the delight of the fans, and he will be over with them again for about a day before the crowds begin to boo him the next night on Raw, and Vinnie Mac sees that his plan to get Cena over failed.

 

[shawnmichaelsfan2007]

ya i bet they will do someting stupid like that thats how screwed up wwe is leting cena do that thats fucking ******ed to do that shit

 

[FiLLiE_pHaNaTiC]

This storyline is a complete joke, especially since you know the WWE can't have Khali win the title, since all he can say is, "ARRAGHAOGUTTUAGH." The Umaga-Cena storyline sucked, but this is 10x worse since Khali might be the worst wrestler the WWE's ever had.

 

[ricflair1983]

Mick Foley is a worthless peice of $hit. He can't and couldn't ever wrestle. Cena will continue to hold the title cause Kahli is just ******ed.

 

[sXeBoy92]

This whole thing is just so unbelievably bad. It would of been an amazing debut of a new superstar(santino marella, colt cabana). But no, they had to ruin it with the 400 pound, 7 foot tall peice of crap. There is only one person in the entire world that likes this, and thats Y2Jake.(see why khali rocks by Y2Jake.)




This will ultimately lead to the demis of the WWE. And no, not by TNA, by the future of proffesional wrestling, ROH. Its only a matter of time before ROH stops being on only PPV's and gets a real tv deal. And by that time, the great khale will be champ, and TNA will still have dumb storylines and gay concept matches. ROH ROH ROH

 

[shawnmichaelsfan2007]

kahli is one of the worst siperstars wwe ever had and cena but wo cares both of these supertsars suck and kahli vs cena and kahli winnig title that would be so messed up if that happended i would stop watching wwe if that happended but we all know tey won't letv that happen it would so screw up raw and make the raw rosters look bad

 

[watchingandwaiting]

This whole thing is just so unbelievably bad. It would of been an amazing debut of a new superstar(santino marella, colt cabana). But no, they had to ruin it with the 400 pound, 7 foot tall peice of crap. There is only one person in the entire world that likes this, and thats Y2Jake.(see why khali rocks by Y2Jake.)




This will ultimately lead to the demis of the WWE. And no, not by TNA, by the future of proffesional wrestling, ROH. Its only a matter of time before ROH stops being on only PPV's and gets a real tv deal. And by that time, the great khale will be champ, and TNA will still have dumb storylines and gay concept matches. ROH ROH ROH

I don't even know where to start with you. If you actually read that thread, you would see that Jake thinks Khali is, without exaggeration, the worst wrestler he's ever seen. I guess any type of arguement beyond "i like him" and "i hate him" is kinda over your head huh?

Next, how could it make any possible sense to have santino marella be the person who KOed Edge, HBK and Orton? First, he's a face. Second, his gimmick is that of a wrestler who has no experience..not exactly the type of person who could go around knocking out 3 main eventers.. Third, he is the IC champ so why would he go after Cena's belt?

I understand why you would mention Colt Cabana....since its a name from ROH you automatically assume that pushing him makes sense... but ROH isn't WWE and part of what everyone bashes is pushing young guys in WWE before they are ready...give Colt some time in OVW and then worry about pushing him. And speaking of ROH, I think you are being just a little optimistic to think that a promotion that JUST got a PPV deal, is losing one of its biggest stars (Homicide) and a few other guys in the midcard to TNA AND just lost two of its bigger names (Punk and Colt) to WWE is going to challenge, much less put out of business, WWE and TNA. Maybe one day they will be big enough for an ROH vs. WWE thread.. but I'm not holding my breath..

 

[CjKo69]

stop bitching cena works his ass off 4 the wwe let him enjoy his time it will be over soon PERSONALLY i think umaga should be champ hes athletic 4 his size and entertaining.plus does any1 know about jericho returning? or x-pac? or lesner? or goldburg? ruturning 2 wwe anytime soon?

 

[Downward Spiral]

This is just salt into a wound here. First, Cena retains the title at Backlash which is aggravating enough, and then McMahon promotes Khali to the head main event guy over guys like Edge, Michaels and Orton who should be running the entire show. We all breathed a sigh of relief when Cena/Khali didn't continue after their first run in, but now it looks like a lengthy angle here, one that is sure to dry up the remaining patience of WWE fans. What was McMahon honestly thinking when he put Khali in here? My take is that he thought this:

"I think what the fans REALLY want to see is the two most hated 'wrestlers' in the WWE go together for the WWE title for a month. Surely they would love to see that? Oh look...5 year olds are cheering for this feud here, that must mean that the fans love it! Cena and Khali! Man I'm a genius!"

Wouldn't put it past him to think that, because it just seems as though he's out to get every single hardcore fan who's pleaded for this crap not to happen. It's destroying the credibility of guys like Edge to have Khali in there and really, it's just wasting talent away by having these two go at it in what's sure to be one of the most painful feuds we've ever seen. If Khali wins the title, there will be anarchy going on here.

For those that haven't heard the plans for Cena/Khali or didn't read the spoiler on wrestlezone.com:

Spoiler: Judgment Day

Cena vs Khali at Judgment day for the WWE title is the plan in the works so far...ought to be an absolute stinker

 

[ExtremeRage81]

This whole thing is just so unbelievably bad. It would of been an amazing debut of a new superstar(santino marella, colt cabana). But no, they had to ruin it with the 400 pound, 7 foot tall peice of crap. There is only one person in the entire world that likes this, and thats Y2Jake.(see why khali rocks by Y2Jake.)




This will ultimately lead to the demis of the WWE. And no, not by TNA, by the future of proffesional wrestling, ROH. Its only a matter of time before ROH stops being on only PPV's and gets a real tv deal. And by that time, the great khale will be champ, and TNA will still have dumb storylines and gay concept matches. ROH ROH ROH

Lets not turn this into a WWE vs TNA or a ROH vs TNA or ROH vs WWE thread. God knows there's enough of those. Let's stick to the subject at hand. Namely, this godawful idea of Khali vs Cena. Two guys who are unbearable to watch in the ring. And I don't care how hard Cena is working because clearly, he's not working hard enough but then again, when you're dubbed as Vince's pet by the leash Vince has on him, what more can you do. This PPV will have a low buyrate, mark my words. Nobody wants to see this main event. No sane wrestling fans anyway which is about every single one of us that proclaim this to not only be a mistake but a possible attempt at suicide by the WWE.

And memo to Vince, not only should he pull his head out of his rear, but he should also give up on movies. The Condemmed is bombing and it's not even going to make the money that it cost to make the movie. Proving to be worse than See No Evil and The Marine. Fact of life, 3 strikes and your out.


Khali is big, slow, and sloppy in the ring. he makes the big show look like Super Crazy and Rey Mysterio combined. I've said this before but I can't help it because this just screams bad idea all over it. When is this insanity in the WWE going to end?

 

[TNA Smark]

Wait, now if you think about it. This might appeal more to the marks and attract new fans. Think about this match as if you were a mark. You got a huge giant that seems unbeatable vs. John Cena, the mark hero. Will Khali crush Cena or will Cena beat the crap out of Khali. Its an ideal match for the marks although the majority of the smarks including myself will hate it. I'm not even going to bother to other Judgement Day because of this match. The main event is what makes a ppv and this main event seems shitty.

 

[justinsayne]

Wait, now if you think about it. This might appeal more to the marks and attract new fans. Think about this match as if you were a mark. You got a huge giant that seems unbeatable vs. John Cena, the mark hero. Will Khali crush Cena or will Cena beat the crap out of Khali. Its an ideal match for the marks although the majority of the smarks including myself will hate it. I'm not even going to bother to other Judgement Day because of this match. The main event is what makes a ppv and this main event seems shitty.

So even if the rest of the matches at JD were all Five star matches, you wouldn't order it just because of one match


I beginning to think that maybe because we have seen great matches in the past that maybe our standards to high anymore, not every feud or every match is going to be great, if it weren't for the shitty matchups then the good ones would seem so spectacular, Khali vs. Cena may not be the greatest feud but it is one that should happen, even if the only thing it accompishes is to feel the main event spot until the time is right to move on to another big feud, the other option would be to stick Cena in a feud with Edge or HBK for the better half of the year, and IMO that would just get boring, maybe if Orton didn't screw up then he and Cena would be feuding right now, another thing to keep in mind is that when Triple H went down with his injury they brought Khali in to fill that void, so it was pretty obvious that they were going to stick him in the main event at some point during Triple Hs absence, I think everyone should just get over it already, Vince and WWE are more concerned with rateings and mainstream fans than what a few fans in the IWC think, and if anyone feels the need to flame me for this, go ahead I don't fuckin care, Flame Away

 

[RSN89]

Plus with Khali getting the push over Kane at WM23 you had to figure he would be getting a title shot eventually, or else what would the point have been? Personally I hate John Cena due to the fact that he just has been killing off all the other talent. If they have him beat Orton, Edge and HBK at the same time what else is there after that dies down. Since they apparently dont want him to drop the belt there, its basically Khali or nothing. Cena is such a waste IMO, a brilliant athlete who everyone hates because of the writers. I would honestly rather see Khali win the belt, becuase at the LEAST we then know he is going to drop it back to someone shortly after and maybe It wouldnt be Cena, although I dont know if anyone would even bother watching the match considering its probably going to consist of 50 chops to the back and headbutts. And now Taker is out of action so we are back to exactly where we were for the longest time, at least thats how it seems anyway.

 

[Big Fella]

Wait, now if you think about it. This might appeal more to the marks and attract new fans. Think about this match as if you were a mark. You got a huge giant that seems unbeatable vs. John Cena, the mark hero. Will Khali crush Cena or will Cena beat the crap out of Khali. Its an ideal match for the marks although the majority of the smarks including myself will hate it. I'm not even going to bother to other Judgement Day because of this match. The main event is what makes a ppv and this main event seems shitty.

You lost me when you referred to yourself as a smark...But that really has nothing to do with this topic.

I agree with your final statement, this main event will make the PPV look shitty. I can't possibly imagine this being the least bit entertaining.

Which is the point of why this is a mistake. It has nothing to do with being a mark or a smark, or knowing good wrestling from bad.

Khali reminds me of Giant Gonzales. That guy's short run in WWF was really before I knew any ins or outs of the business. I didn't know a 5* match from a 2* match, but I knew a crapfest and a guy that was all around boring.

I don't think the WWE has been successful as selling Khali as an unstoppable giant. If they had, you're premise may be correct. But I think your average 10 year old is bored by Khali and will not be begging mommy and daddy to purchase this PPV.

 

[ExtremeRage81]

It's not the first time I didn't order a PPV because of the main event. Example. Judgement Day last year between Rey and JBL. That match is not bad compared to this nightmare. But I didn't watch because of the fear they'd give the belt back to JBL. This case however, makes watching JBL in the ring seem like watching Kurt Angle vs HBK at mania. Look, maybe we do have high standards, but I don't think it's high enough to where we wouldn't accept a decent ppv. Not to mention, the last thing we ever thought out of the WWE is that it would get stale, predictible and repetitive. And this is exactly what's happening.