The End of Jeff Hardy?

I'll be glad to see the back of him, although I doubt he's actually leaving. His only skill is the ability to throw himself around like a ragdoll. He can't wrestle (as WM25 proved) and he sure as hell can't cut a decent promo as he's a personality vacuum.
Best thing for everyone is for him to go to TNA. He'll raise their profile massively, I won't have to watch him, someone more deserving will take his spot and it'll move us further towards the next wrestling war.
 
Whilst i think it'd be totally stupid for Jeff Hardy to leave WWE when he is one of the top faces, part of you can sympathise with Jeff. Despite being mega-over with fans he is still generally disliked by Vince and creative team members. The guy won the title because so many people got behind him but how many times did he wrestle with the title? Once or maybe Twice. He can't be satisfied with that championship reign. He was planning to steal the show at Wrestlemania however i'm sure i read that the match wasn't given enough air time. So Jeff draws and gets everyone to believe in him except Vince and he get's held down. Having said that it is his own fault that Vince doesn't believe in him. Vince is cautious about who he is going to put titles on nowadays, They have to be steroid free, and Jeff Hardy is unreliable in that respect.

Maybe Jeff will leave. I can understand why he might but it'd be a very dumb move while you're at the height of your popularity.
 
Jeff Hardy = Ratings. Simple as that. If Jeff were to show up in TNA and before the end of 2009 was to reign as TNA World Champion, and they let Jeff carry the show, EASILY, TNA's ratings would sky rocket. Can Jeff carry TNA on his back? Not at this exact moment. Let him work on his mic skills a bit and give him the company. Heck, what does TNA have to lose?
 
If they really wanted Jeff back they could give him a light schedule with no house shows and rare autograph apearances, he would have more time at home and his body would be less beat up.
Even If he took a 3 month break or something I think he would be more rested.
 
Jeff Hardy = Ratings. Simple as that. If Jeff were to show up in TNA and before the end of 2009 was to reign as TNA World Champion, and they let Jeff carry the show, EASILY, TNA's ratings would sky rocket.
I really don't believe this, especially when an Attitude Era favorite (Mick Foley) and a man who was at the center of one of the hottest builds in WCW history (Sting) didn't "sky rocket" their ratings. People need to stop saying "such and such" going to TNA will help in that way.

Besides, Jeff is better suited for success in WWE. TNA can get a ton of younger, better fliers than Hardy for a time a dozen and they will have about the same amount of impact. In the WWE, Jeff is unique being a former spot-monkey and undercard guy who actually succeeded in the long-run.
 
I really don't believe this, especially when an Attitude Era favorite (Mick Foley) and a man who was at the center of one of the hottest builds in WCW history (Sting) didn't "sky rocket" their ratings. People need to stop saying "such and such" going to TNA will help in that way.
Besides, Jeff is better suited for success in WWE. TNA can get a ton of younger, better fliers than Hardy for a time a dozen and they will have about the same amount of impact. In the WWE, Jeff is unique being a former spot-monkey and undercard guy who actually succeeded in the long-run.

But here is the question: Did TNA sign Sting during the '90s? During his prime? Did TNA sign Foley during the Attitude Era? During his prime? I bet if they did then indeed the ratings would sky-rocket. Why would ratings sky-rocket if TNA sign Hardy? Its because Hardy is beginning his prime right now.
 
Okay, that's fair. I'll bite.

What does Hardy do for SmackDown right now? Ratings didn't skyrocket when Triple H and Jeff Hardy were sent there.

I don't think anyone has that one-man-draw ability anymore. I'd like to see it tested with Cena, but that's about it. I can't see it in Hardy.
 
I think Jeff choosing to leave would be a decent time, yeah his momentum and main event status has died down. But he's achieved the one thing he's always wanted to be and that's WWE Champion. He's one of the few guys to hold virtually everything single title on the roster since he came to the WWE. He's wrestled for a good time of 13/14 years and hasn't really stopped aside from his departure from WWE, taking time off and then going TNA.

I think Jeff will leave, do other things he wants to do before it's took late with wrestling injuries and then if he comes back, great! He's done so much for wrestling and it's a good time to unwind abit, he's done it all. He's at the same point Jericho was when he first left. The greatest thing Jeff is doing if he leaves is unselfishly putting his brother over so he can have a chance to do what Jeff has done!

Additionally, you can't fully say about the Smackdown ratings given alot of people still can't watch it, it might have gained more had it been on a network which everyone could view!
 
I never really got the Hardy love, so to speak. I always found his mannerisms to be super effing gay. Not to mention that's he's nothing more than a walking spotfest and has absolutely no mic skills whatsoever.

For whatever reason, he's ridiculously over, so his departure will hurt them. I don't buy Hardy as a credible world champion. He's still just the guy that jobbed to his brother on That 70's Show to me.
 
jeff hardy leaving wwe would kinda suck. he's got a unique look, has the basic wrestling skills, uses his style of wrestling well, mic skills are "eh" which is probably why is isn't on the stick very much, but he just doesn't do enough to make me really want to see him. like taker, orton, swagger (at least for me). now if wwe would have given the guy a chance to live a wwe championship instead of just a taste, than i'm sure everyone would take jeff a lot more seriously. but whenever he's doing something, he does it well and stands out. so whatever jeff decides, i am positive that he will be a success.
 
This is a great opportunity for WWE creative! With Jeff's contract running up and his status in limbo, it means only one thing:

Jeff will start a campaign to win a WWE title once again. If he should not win before his contract ends, he will retire. Eventually, him and Tommy Dreamer will team up to create the Future Endeavors and go on a tag team bid to win heavyweight titles, that will end in a flaming wreck of glory.
 
Do we have any type of confirmation on this besides rumors? Also, Jeff Hardy signed late in 2006, I'd imagine it wasn't a 2 1/2 year contract, but a three year contract, so if this is true, it's probably going to be another six months before he is phased out regardless.

I thinhk that this certainly probably wasn't in the plans for the WWE and the draft, because if they knew this would happen, I'd imagine a big face would swap brands. Really, there's the Undertaker, then Rey Mysterio and CM Punk, that's it for major faces on Smackdown.

As far as this particular situation, I said this in a related thread, good for Jeff Hardy. I'm not saying it to be a smart ass, as my track record on here puts me on the Jeff hardy detractor side of things, but it's his life. Jeff Hary, in my opinion, has been in the business because of Matt Hardy and his passion. Jeff probably never wanted to dissapoint big brother Matt, but somewhere along the line, the guy simply lost the passion to be in the business.

Jeff Hardy's move set is not a good move set to have, especially going into your 30's. People are so used to Jeff Hardy being the guy to jump off of the ladder, go threw a table, or do something ridiculous that makes the crowd pop. Shawn Michaels used to be the same way, but over time, he was able to get away from his wreckless style and wrestle a more ground based match, with the occasional moonsault. Hardy fans, in my opinion, won't let the guy change.

This is a business that is either a crippler, or a killer. The lifestyle,t he life on the road, all of that, takes an emotional, spiritual, psychological, and ultimately physical toll on the human body. Being on teh road 300 plus days a year in an antiquitated form of the business that the WWE still uses to maximize profit over the safety of their wrestlers ultimately takes a toll on people. Jeff Hardy simply is burned out.

Jeff Hardy is getting out of the business at a great time. Essentially, he's not going to be able to stand up straight because either his knees or back will be shot by the time he is 35 years old. Look at the veterans, the ones that have survived into their 50's, their 60's, their barely able to walk, let alone stand up straight. The ones that aren't, chances are they are either cremated or in a pine box. If Jeff Hardy wants to leave the business now, in his prime, instead of a delapitated old man that struggles to let go of the business, then good for Jeff Hardy.
 
I'm going to preface this post by saying that there's no wrestler in the world I detest more than Jeff Hardy. So anyone who is brave and bold enough to sit through this entire post; I salute you.

For me, Jeff Hardy has always appealed to the lowest common denominator of wrestling fans. He's what J.R. calls all sizzle and no steak. Well, that's not totally fair. There is some steak but it's hardly more than a nibble.

Why is Jeff so popular? The guy can't talk on the mic. The guy has never been a great wrestler. It's simple. He's pretty good-looking, he likes to pop the crowd by trying to break his neck and his clothes appeal to teenagers who want to be anti-establishment. None of those are very good wrestler qualities. Jeff decided that he didn't need to learn the fundamentals of wrestling because he could always jump off a ladder when all else failed. Meanwhile, Matt Hardy is an absolute student of the game who can have at least a decent match with anyone. To say that Jeff is a better wrestler than Matt in any way, shape or form is beyond laughable to me. Throwing oneself off the top rope isn't good wrestling.

On top of that, the guy has no passion for the business. His personal demons got the entire Team Extreme pulled off the road twice within a few months. What happened after that? HE GOT PUSHED. Jeff was given center stage on RAW to face Undertaker for the Undisputed title. Now this is both Jeff's problem and the WWE's problem. One running theme of Jeff's career is that almost every time he screwed up he got rewarded. Don't believe me? What happened after Jeff got suspended for drugs the first time? He returned and was given the IC title. How about the second time? He was put into big feuds with Hunter and Edge that culminated in winning the WWE title. It's like a Pavlovian dog. In Jeff's world doing drugs equates to winning gold!

Jeff was fired by the WWE once. But don't tell him that. According to him he was burnt out and they parted together. Jeff no shows TNA PPVs. What's his excuse? He was burnt out. Now the rumor is that he won't renew his contract with the WWE due to burn out. Riiight. It's sickening that there are so many other guys on the roster who get far less of a push than Jeff and who wrestler far longer than he does yet they never get burnt out. Here's another thing. Jeff's on his second strike. Maybe he's just quitting now so that he can return soon with a fresh set of strikes. Maybe in his mind he either quits now or he gets another strike soon and is fired.

Jeff Hardy is one of the most ungrateful wrestlers I've ever seen. I don't want to hear that his push has been decreased. No it hasn't. The guy was WWE Champ in January and it's only April. Heck, in February at No Way Out he still managed to beat Edge and outlast a total of three guys in the chamber. He's only been really jobbed out on PPV ONCE and had a couple of losses on SD!. That's not much of a push decrease. Ask MVP what's it's truly like to have a push decrease.

If Jeff Hardy leaves the WWE then I'll be cheering. Listen, I don't think a person should ever be forced into a career they don't care for. If Jeff doesn't want to be wrestling then he shouldn't be wrestling. But if he's going to keep this endless cycle of on/off wrestling going then how about he just steps back? Next time the WWE hires him (sadly, they will) decline title reigns. Say that you're comfortable with a midcard spot. Because there are a lot of other wrestlers on the roster more talented than Jeff Hardy who deserve their break to be in the main event. They're dedicated and won't constantly flake out.

Besides, I've already seen every Jeff Hardy match that could ever possibly happen. Run the rails? Check. Double leg drop? Check. Whisper in the wind? Check. Corner double dropkick? Really poor version of the Twist of Fate? Check. Swanton? Check. The rest of the match is made up of Jeff getting pounded on or Jeff jumping off of something. I've seen in quite a few times and have yet to be impressed.

Jeff is popular. I'd never doubt that. Besides Cena (don't get me started on that guy) he's the most over face the company has. But that doesn't make him a necessary talent. People can quote merchandise sales to me until they're blue in the face. I don't care. If he disappeared tomorrow fans wouldn't go into an uproar. With Jeff gone that gives just a little more hope to John Morrison, Shelton Benjamin, CM Punk and an entire roster of SD! guys who are more deserving of air time each week.

Goodbye, Spot Monkey. Don't let the door hit you in the rainbow-colored ass on the way out. We'll see you in a year or two when you suddenly regain your passion for wrestling/realize that your bank account isn't quite as full as you'd like it to be.
 
People can bag the shit out of Jeff for not being a 'wrestler' all they want. The fact is he is extremely over and is entertaining to 90% of wrestling fans. Bar the IWC everyone loves him. He does do a lot of spots, but hell i find it entertaining. If every wrestler was like him then yes, it would be shit. To have Jeff in a match is exciting coz he's gonna do something big most of the time (always on PPV) but i dont understand how this isnt entertaining, i find it to be.

I am a Hardy fan from when i was 10 so i will always be a big fan of both Matt and Jeff. Matt yes is the better 'wrestler' but Jeff has managed to get way more over than Matt, is more beleivable as a world champ and yes, does BIG spots. I fail to find how this can make the IWC hate you, it's rediculous.
 
He could be pulling a Jericho. If I am not mistaken, Jericho just let his contract expire and went on to do other things. And he came back better. Jeff could be just letting it expire and want to take time off. Why not fulfil your contractual commitment? It really does seem like an abnormal thing to do in today's world of business.

I don't know about tension or lack thereof, but I find it interesting that Matt is his feud. I think with Jeff's success he would want to do what he could to lift his brother up. Jeff has had everything to have in a career: tag-titles, classic matches, good feuds, and individual success. Not saying he won't re-sign or wait and re-sign later but maybe, at least for now, he needs time off.
 
i was hoping he wouldnt leave but thats what its looking like.

i missed out on a decade of wrestling and i remember the hardy boyz back when they were jobbers so it was nice to see they both came up. im more of a jeff fan, but oh well.
 
People can bag the shit out of Jeff for not being a 'wrestler' all they want. The fact is he is extremely over and is entertaining to 90% of wrestling fans. Bar the IWC everyone loves him. He does do a lot of spots, but hell i find it entertaining. If every wrestler was like him then yes, it would be shit. To have Jeff in a match is exciting coz he's gonna do something big most of the time (always on PPV) but i dont understand how this isnt entertaining, i find it to be.

I am a Hardy fan from when i was 10 so i will always be a big fan of both Matt and Jeff. Matt yes is the better 'wrestler' but Jeff has managed to get way more over than Matt, is more beleivable as a world champ and yes, does BIG spots. I fail to find how this can make the IWC hate you, it's rediculous.

I'm sorry, but there's nothing funnier than someone calling someone else ridiculous when they don't know how to spell the word.

Also, I think you're speaking in unfair, general terms. Jeff has plenty of haters who aren't part of the IWC. Heck, I hated Jeff long before I even owned a computer.
 
FYI. The guy who runs the Hardy's Offical Thehardyshow Myspace page has posted a blog saying that neither Matt or Jeff have a legitamate facebook account. So who ever said something earlier in this thread about something on Jeff's facebook page is now null and void. Just wanted to pass that message along.
 
As far as I'm concerned, TNA can have Jeff Hardy. I was excited that he was going to get the push the first time...before he screwed up again. But he did, and CM Punk got the push instead.
Now, I have no desire to see Jeff Hardy: WWE Champion. As it is, there's a lot of main eventers that are battling for the title...putting Jeff into the mix does nothing for me.
If he does go to TNA, I hope those rumors of Kurt Angle's contract expiring at the end of 2009 are true...I'll take Angle back any day.
Jeff for Angle? Not even close!
 
As for Jeff Hardy, I hope he is done. Hes done alot and this little "I will beat Matt" segment I just saw from him kinda reminded me of something Raven would be involved in. When Jeff lets his contract expire I dont expect him to sign with TNA, I just think hes going to vanish for awhile.

As a side note, did anyone ever notice Matt Hardy's hairline makes you think of Jake "The Snake" Roberts? I hope that guy is done, hes beginning to look like Jake Roberts body wise as well.
 
yeah i cant stand matt he looks like a complete slob out there. just another weak link in a tag team getting a bs push. he does have potential though, he just has to get a better persona, get better on the mic. stop looking so shell shocked and stop throwing up the shocker haha
 
I'm starting to question Jeff's passion for the business. He has failed drug tests twice now. He got "burned out" in 2003 and left for three years. I could see maybe how he felt then. How his character wasn't going anywhere. But since he has been back the WWE has done more with him in two and a half years than most wrestler's whole career. He is a hell of a performer, I am not taking that away from him. But did he come back because he loved the business so much, or was his bank account getting down pretty low? He was shot to the main event, winning the most "prestigious" championship in the wrestling world, some would say. Not even a year after violating the wellness policy. I'd say WWE has given Jeff a lot of slack. Lots. If he just up and leaves WWE now he is more wealthy, then I don't think he is passionate and loyal like Matt is. Hopefully they will just give him some time off if he is really getting burned out.
 
I don't see Jeff Hardy ISN'T burned out. He's been wrestling since.. correct me if i'm wrong.. 1992? Has he had a decent break at all? I can see him pursuing a music career, doing something with his art & poetry, hell.. even motorcross. He's constantly put his body on the line throughout his whole career, he's called the risk-taker, the daredevil, all that for a reason. Let the man take a break, he has had a horrible couple years, let him and his woman settle down, let him get his whole life in general back on a positive track. If Vince decides to not hire him back I think it'd be a incredibly dumb decision on Vinnie Mac's part because Jeff Hardy is MONEY. Every house show, every live event, every appearance, every PPV, Jeff Hardy fans consume the place. His merchandise is #1 selling 99% of the time on WWEShop and at shows. The kids love him, most of the females love him, alot of the guys still like him too. He draws. Period.
 

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