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The Best Lex Luthor?

Who played the best Lex Luthor?

  • Gene Hackman (Superman I, II, IV)

  • John Shea (Lois & Clark: New Adventures Of Superman)

  • Michael Rosenbaum (Smallville)

  • Kevin Spacey (Superman Returns)


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Wolf Pac

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I'm expecting a lot of Gene Hackman answers here but my pick goes to Michael Rosenbaum without a doubt. Rosenbaum was more believable as Lex Luthor than Gene or any of the other actors, his potrayal of Luthor was more ruthless & evil than the others. Smallville did a great job of turning Lex from a good guy to a bad guy, I actually felt myself vouching for Lex when he was babyface and then hating him when he turned heel though the writers still managed to make the character look cool. The show took quite a hit when Rosenbaum left before Season 8. The guy can play any role to perfection whether it's a good guy, bad guy or a psychopath and I'll post a video of him playing a psychopath in one episode from Season 3, I think, which is when I first realized how awesome an actor he is.

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While we're on the subject of Superman, I also want to ask which actor you guys thought played the best Superman/Clark Kent? And which actress played the best Lois Lane?
 
I voted for Gene because he was the first Lex I watched and he kind of set the bar for actors playing the character in the future for me. However I really enjoyed Rosenbaum's depiction on Smallville, I wasnt a huge fan of the show but man did he nail that role. Like Shocker said he was able to make you love him as a goodie and hate him when he turned to the dark side.

My favorite Superman will always be Dean Cain, I just got so used to him when I watched The New Adventures Of Superman that he's always who I'm going to think of no matter how many more Superman movies and shows are made. Ofcourse I also enjoyed Christopher Reeve but he's second best for me, just prefer Cain.

Never really gave a shit about Lois Lane but if I had to pick one it'd be Teri Hatcher, I don't really like her as an actress but I think she played the role well.
 
I enjoyed Gene Hackman's performances, but he didn't measure up to what I expected Lex Luthor to be. Hackman played the role with too much humor, too much of a twinkle in his eye......as opposed to the vicious, merciless villain Luthor was supposed to be. Hackman did too much wise-cracking and too much mugging for the camera to be effective. It wasn't bad acting; it simply wasn't Lex Luthor.

Rosenbaum, as a teenage version of Luthor, was on the mark. In his version, Luthor could be friendly and devoted to others, yet possessed of a subtlety of manner and brooding presence that foretold of what the legend of Superman demanded he eventually become. Rosenbaum was totally convincing as a virtual powder keg...... generous and giving in one moment, capable of vengeance and retribution in the next. I would love to have a friend like him......yet would be terrified if I did.

As for John Shea? He was Lex Luthor with hair!.......screw that.
 
Although each Lex portrayal on that list has had its upsides, I don't think anyone brought as much depth to the character as Michael Rosenbaum did for Smallville. He showed humanity,humor, psychopathic tendencies, and painted the picture of what Lex ultimately becomes in Superman. Everything Rosenbaum portrayed in Lex had reasoning behind it and everyone could relate to him. Everyone knows that type of misunderstood person in real life who does things for alterior motives and uses things to fit their agendas. I also think alot of the credit for Rosenbaum's Lex should also be contributed to John Glover's equally impressive portrayal of Lionel Luthor. He was a major influence on the Lex character and it was essential for explaining why Lex turned out as he did. Having that type of father bred Luthor and it was great for backstory.

I also think John Shea's Lex Luthor from Lois & Clark is overlooked. His Luthor was much more sinister than Gene Hackman's and his humor was more dark. That incarnation of Lex was more driven by his hatred of anyone that could be perceived as better than him. They really emphasized that on Lois & Clark; Lex hated anyone being better than him. They killed him off abit too soon but his presence added alot of evil genius moments that few have been able to equal. I really didn't care much for Kevin Spacey as Lex Luthor. He seemed an odd cast for that role and I believe all the others outperformed him.
 
I have a split vote. I would vote for a tie between Kevin Spacey and Gene Hackman. Officially I voted for Gene Hackman though.

I've noticed a lot of the people so far stating their cases for Michael Rosenbaum, and while I understand peoples explanations I just can't agree for a number of reasons, and I have a hunch as to why so many of you are drawn that way.

First of all, although his back story has been altered before, Lex Luthor and Superman did not know each other as teenagers and were not both from Smallville, nor was Lex a young man or a teenager when he first met Superman in the comics. He was always portrayed as either a mad scientist or a corrupt ceo, not a brainiac teenager with a jealousy for the man of steel or some personal vendetta that is spawned over multiple seasons of a television series. For these reasons and others, I just do not connect with the Smallville Lex Luthor. He just isn't Lex Luthor, he's someone elses interpretation of Lex Luthor made to fit a television series that also doesn't really connect to the actual source material and re-imagines the teenage years of Superman which I also don't connect with.

I think that a lot of people are more connected to that because they have more of a relationship with that actor, that show, and that imagining of Lex Luthor, and why wouldn't you? He is what you've been presented over the course of many years on a re-occurring episodic television series revolving around Superman and as a result, him as well. You've all been able to watch him evolve and grow as a character for many years, and as a result have more of an understanding and an attachment to him. I can not fault anyone for that, just as I wouldn't want anyone to fault me for having more of a connection to the Gene Hackman version of Lex Luthor.

I prefer Hackman because not only do I see him as being more true to the original imaginings of the character, but I believe he actually portrayed Lex Luthor better than anyone else and was the direct influence for Kevin Spacey's Lex Luthor who was also very true to the original imaginings. Hackman's Lex Luthor is every bit as ruthless and evil as any of the other imaginings, the difference is, he dances in it, he loves it, and he enjoys it. He knows he's the greatest criminal mind in history and relishes that fact, he's tickled by his own genius and greatness, and that's part of the horror. Hackman was very menacing at times, and it was a beautiful contrast to his joking and mugging. A lot of his sinister is subtle and under the surface rather than outright and blatant like Spacey and Rosenbaum. They all laid it on thick with a dark brooding Luthor, and that takes away from the character for me. Part of what makes Lex Luthor so sinister and evil is that he's very personable, charismatic, and charming, all the while also being a mad genius. The dark brooding thing is kind of a bad guy cliche and cheap when it comes to acting.

I noticed someone mention that the Michael Rosenbaum version was someone you could relate to in a sense, and everyone knows someone kind of like the character he portrayed. That for me is one of the main reasons I don't like him. You shouldn't be able to connect with him, and he shouldn't be like anyone else you know, that just makes him in my view another generic-dark-brooding-over reaching portrayal of a villain. It's too much depth, it's too much reason. This character shouldn't seem reasonable at all, he's hell bent on world domination and killing Superman, the only thing that really stands in the way of his devious plots. I also find it hard to believe that a mere teenager could be so complex and have acquired so much genius at such a young age. Even though they do their best to instill all of that in the tv show and make the character in that way, it just comes across to me as being very unbelievable and poorly though out as they build and build and build on this young version of the character to make him more and more and more of who he is actually supposed to be and was in the comic books. I realize it plays well to the vanity of the core audience who are also teenagers and young adults, but I don't feel like it's true to the Superman story or Lex Luthor as a character.

Hackman gave Lex the personality that the character needed AND made him seem REAL. He portrayed real genius in perfect contrast to Superman's super powers. That's what the feud was always about, Lex Luthor's brains against Superman's brawn and super human capabilities. He was no physical match for Superman, so he had to be smarter, and he was. He didn't need to be dark and brooding and blatantly sinister and so deep and complex. His motives were simple, his tactics, no so much, that was where the genius always came in. Hackman nailed all of that. Luthor was powerful because of his wits, not his depth, and the depth of the character was in his wits. Like I said before, the madness, the horror, the true evil, all that was subtle in a sense. He didn't act outwardly mad, horrific, evil, or any of that, he was very controlled, calculating, and merciless, but he had a real personality.

Hackman brought all of that to the screen and to life like no one else could have, and I believe no one else has. I liked Kevin Spacey's version because he was very reminiscent of Hackman in a lot of ways, but he was also to outwardly expressed. Subtlety and subtext are dying arts and additives to movies and role portrayals. Now days everything has to be spelled out for the viewer and underscored and overemphasized, or it goes the complete opposite way and we get shit like in Twilight where every emotion is projected by the same expression and undersold in the attempt to be subtle and to infuse sub-text by overdoing it and missing the mark completely. I think they nailed it in Superman I, II, and IV with Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor, and all others have missed the mark making the exact errors I've noted above. Gene Hackman is a special talent who played the role in a very special way, with artistry and flare that allowed the imagination to do a lot of the work, and that's exactly what story and film is supposed to do. It gives you a visual representation, but the true depth of everything takes place in the mind as you comprehend it, understand it, and interpret it for yourself.
 
I think they all did bad jobs to be honest. Gene was very camp, Shea was even more so, Rosembaum never really took off and totally grasped the Lex Luthor character for me. And Spacey returned it to the campiness. No one on that list got him right.

I'll vote for Clancy Brown from the DC animated series'. That Lex was perfect and Clancy's voice was spot on.
 
I've noticed a lot of the people so far stating their cases for Michael Rosenbaum, and while I understand peoples explanations I just can't agree for a number of reasons, and I have a hunch as to why so many of you are drawn that way.

First of all, although his back story has been altered before, Lex Luthor and Superman did not know each other as teenagers and were not both from Smallville, nor was Lex a young man or a teenager when he first met Superman in the comics. He was always portrayed as either a mad scientist or a corrupt ceo, not a brainiac teenager with a jealousy for the man of steel or some personal vendetta that is spawned over multiple seasons of a television series. For these reasons and others, I just do not connect with the Smallville Lex Luthor. He just isn't Lex Luthor, he's someone elses interpretation of Lex Luthor made to fit a television series that also doesn't really connect to the actual source material and re-imagines the teenage years of Superman which I also don't connect with.

The reason you cite as not connecting with Rosenbaum's Lex is precisely the reason I loved his portrayal. It is a reenvisioning of the Lex Luthor character to modernize him and attempt some backstory. While Gene Hackman did make refrences to his father in the original Superman, he didn't mention name or any real backstory. In other words, you don't get the reasoning behind the evil genius and why he became that way. Smallville reconciles that and adds to it. Although I do agree that Superman & Lex didn't know each other before Metropolis, Smallville attempted to rectify that in the series finale by having Tess Mercer take away Lex's memories of Clark. A lame explanation, but one that fits. Smallville did a good job making a mythology all its own and not copying verbatim from the comics or the Superman movies. Alot of newer superhero movies are doing that these days with reboots and remakes. They envision something new and take liberties with it. I understand some fans of the Superman series won't like it, but, it is innovative. No one can deny that Rosenbaum did an excellent job overall as Lex Luthor and his transition from decent misunderstood to the true villian made him all the more believeable. I think he captured the essence of Lex Luthor and made it abudantly clear why he becomes the evil genius of the comics and the Superman movies.

I think that a lot of people are more connected to that because they have more of a relationship with that actor, that show, and that imagining of Lex Luthor, and why wouldn't you? He is what you've been presented over the course of many years on a re-occurring episodic television series revolving around Superman and as a result, him as well. You've all been able to watch him evolve and grow as a character for many years, and as a result have more of an understanding and an attachment to him. I can not fault anyone for that, just as I wouldn't want anyone to fault me for having more of a connection to the Gene Hackman version of Lex Luthor.

I totally get that you are more of an old school traditional Superman fan. Some people just don't like variations or different adaptations of classic films or comics. I personally thought that Rosenbaum had alot more charisma and personality than Gene Hackman did. Hackman had a few funny lines and did a nice job projecting the evil genius persona. He just wasn't all that charismatic to me, which is in stark contrast to Michael Rosenbaum. He had charisma every second of every episode he was in. The reasoning and logic behind his character was very transparent, which endears him to fans. It wasn't always clear why the Hackman Lex did certain things and there was no backstory to support his motives. If they had done that in a more specific way, I believe more people would've connected to his portrayal of Lex Luthor.

I prefer Hackman because not only do I see him as being more true to the original imaginings of the character, but I believe he actually portrayed Lex Luthor better than anyone else and was the direct influence for Kevin Spacey's Lex Luthor who was also very true to the original imaginings. Hackman's Lex Luthor is every bit as ruthless and evil as any of the other imaginings, the difference is, he dances in it, he loves it, and he enjoys it. He knows he's the greatest criminal mind in history and relishes that fact, he's tickled by his own genius and greatness, and that's part of the horror. Hackman was very menacing at times, and it was a beautiful contrast to his joking and mugging. A lot of his sinister is subtle and under the surface rather than outright and blatant like Spacey and Rosenbaum. They all laid it on thick with a dark brooding Luthor, and that takes away from the character for me. Part of what makes Lex Luthor so sinister and evil is that he's very personable, charismatic, and charming, all the while also being a mad genius. The dark brooding thing is kind of a bad guy cliche and cheap when it comes to acting.

Again, the reason you don't like Rosenbaum/Spacey are the reasons I liked them. They are truly dark, brooding, evil geniuses who have clear logic for what they are doing. I think Rosenbaum & Spacey's Luthor are more believeable and realistic than Hackman's. If you encountered a real life evil genius, do you think he'd be dark and brooding? Or your charming grandfather? Hackman always seemed like your evil genius, misguided, charming grandfather. That took away from the believeability to me.

I noticed someone mention that the Michael Rosenbaum version was someone you could relate to in a sense, and everyone knows someone kind of like the character he portrayed. That for me is one of the main reasons I don't like him. You shouldn't be able to connect with him, and he shouldn't be like anyone else you know, that just makes him in my view another generic-dark-brooding-over reaching portrayal of a villain. It's too much depth, it's too much reason. This character shouldn't seem reasonable at all, he's hell bent on world domination and killing Superman, the only thing that really stands in the way of his devious plots. I also find it hard to believe that a mere teenager could be so complex and have acquired so much genius at such a young age. Even though they do their best to instill all of that in the tv show and make the character in that way, it just comes across to me as being very unbelievable and poorly though out as they build and build and build on this young version of the character to make him more and more and more of who he is actually supposed to be and was in the comic books. I realize it plays well to the vanity of the core audience who are also teenagers and young adults, but I don't feel like it's true to the Superman story or Lex Luthor as a character.

I'm not tryin' to be harsh here, but, characters are all about connection. The audience has to feel everything the character does to believe and ultimately accept them. Emotion has always been a part of the Superman/Lex Luthor struggle, which is essentially the retelling of good vs. evil. To achieve this end, people have to emotionally invest into a great superhero and an equally impressive villian. At least Rosenbaum's Lex Luthor had a lifetime of reasons for become a dastardly villian. We got very little glimpse into Gene Hackman's Lex which took away appeal. He just didn't have that same chemistry and charisma to connect with audiences. I enjoyed Terrence Stamp's Zod alot more than Hackman's Lex Luthor for that reason alone. Zod had a major backstory and reason to have a grudge against Superman and the house of El. His villianious portrayal was unrelenting and ruthless in his pursuit of domination. Lex Luthor of the Superman films with Hackman had elements of that, but, not all of it. He certainly did not seem as major a threat to Superman as he presented in the comics.

Hackman gave Lex the personality that the character needed AND made him seem REAL. He portrayed real genius in perfect contrast to Superman's super powers. That's what the feud was always about, Lex Luthor's brains against Superman's brawn and super human capabilities. He was no physical match for Superman, so he had to be smarter, and he was. He didn't need to be dark and brooding and blatantly sinister and so deep and complex. His motives were simple, his tactics, no so much, that was where the genius always came in. Hackman nailed all of that. Luthor was powerful because of his wits, not his depth, and the depth of the character was in his wits. Like I said before, the madness, the horror, the true evil, all that was subtle in a sense. He didn't act outwardly mad, horrific, evil, or any of that, he was very controlled, calculating, and merciless, but he had a real personality.

Like I've said, I appreciate what Hackman brought to the Superman films. He was great at emphasizing his intellect and imposing his desire for power. Aside from that, his character had little or no humanity. Just another run-of-the-mill psychopath with no backstory. Comics have those types a dime a dozen and I thought there was more potential for what Hackman could've brought to that role. He did a great job, but, I believe that Rosenbaum embodied everything that Lex Luthor had. Brilliance, doubt, humanity, paranoia,psychopathic tendencies, mercilessness, and the capacity to want friendship and a relationship. That's another thing about Hackman's Lex Luthor; who did he have? Miss Tessmacher? Because we really didn't see any romantic relationship with them. And neither did Kevin Spacey's Lex. Rosenbaum's character of Lex Luthor was a rich playboy who had numerous romantic trysts and attempts at relationships. This brings an entirely new humane realism to Lex Luthor that no one had done before him.

Hackman brought all of that to the screen and to life like no one else could have, and I believe no one else has. I liked Kevin Spacey's version because he was very reminiscent of Hackman in a lot of ways, but he was also to outwardly expressed. Subtlety and subtext are dying arts and additives to movies and role portrayals. Now days everything has to be spelled out for the viewer and underscored and overemphasized, or it goes the complete opposite way and we get shit like in Twilight where every emotion is projected by the same expression and undersold in the attempt to be subtle and to infuse sub-text by overdoing it and missing the mark completely. I think they nailed it in Superman I, II, and IV with Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor, and all others have missed the mark making the exact errors I've noted above. Gene Hackman is a special talent who played the role in a very special way, with artistry and flare that allowed the imagination to do a lot of the work, and that's exactly what story and film is supposed to do. It gives you a visual representation, but the true depth of everything takes place in the mind as you comprehend it, understand it, and interpret it for yourself.

I liked Hackman's Lex Luthor. He did wonders for setting up future generations of executing that character. Was he truly the best? Not in my view. I believe Michael Rosenbaum's Lex Luthor was the most comprehensive and complete role to date for that character. The nostalgia effect will always be on Hackman's side. As far as portrayal, I simply prefer Rosenbaum's Lex because he does more to connect with audiences and also establish motives for being the true supervillian Luthor is.
 
Great question!

I enjoyed Rosenbaum's portrayal of Lex the most as well. As others have stated, his version of Lex was darker and had more depth to it. You sympathized with him a lot. Granted, he had a lot more screen time as Lex than anyone else, but I found the Lex storylines to almost always be the most interesting, especially in the first four seasons.

On a side note, I'll confess, I always thought Allison Mack was cuter than Kristin Kreuk! :blush:
 
On a side note, I'll confess, I always thought Allison Mack was cuter than Kristin Kreuk! :blush:

Agreed! More especially Allison Mack in seasons 1-4. After that, she lost too much weight and looked sick. Kristin Kruek would've been alot hotter if she'd weighed more. Of course, I'm not into skinny chics. That's not to say I want them superheavyweight, but, when it looks like they have anorexia it's kind of a turn off.
 

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