Jewlz said:
Why i don't think Striker should be on tv is cause he's annoying & takes up too much time with his "Matt Striker's Classroom" stuff. if he was just wrestling it'd be different cause i've seen him in the ring & he's not bad but the classroom skit's too time consuming & yes the Steve Irwin coment did rub me the wrong way, even if it wasn't his idea he should have better class than that.
I do agree with you on the whole "Matt Striker's Classroom" does take up alot of time, but I don't see why you're blaming Striker for this. Yes, he does go out and talk that whole time, but he doesn't come up with what he has to do. The WWE writers come up with everything he does and Vince McMahon has to approve of it. Like I've already said, wrestlers do throw in some ideas at times, but WWE doesn't always choose to go with their idea. I don't know the full behind the scenes angle with "Steve Irwin" other than Brian Gerwitz came up with the idea and Vince McMahon approved it, so I don't see how this would hurt Striker's "class". We all should know that alot of wrestlers are alot different outside the wrestling business. What I mean by this is, that I've met Matt Striker quite a few times at bookings and he was a totally different person, than people perceive him to be. He was a nice classy guy and hes done alot of things that he didn't have to do for the fans that attended his bookings.
Aussie Hobo said:
A decent Match? I haven't watched CM Punk in ROH, OVW but I have see nhim in ECW and I must wonder where he gets all this fan base? After watching his match with Stevie Richards I came to the conclusion that it was just hype and Punk needs more improvement taking on the ECW crowd. He doesn't get them going he simply goes to the ring does that X puts on a basic squash with Richards getting minimal offence, wins and leaves the ring, I would like to see Punk vs. Moore down the line, considering that there fued will continue and maybe, if the match is good, cause I personally like seeing offence and defence from both wrestlers, my opinion may change on him.
The whole point to what I was saying is that you said in your previous post that "CM Punk at the moment sucks shit and won't get anywhere in ECW/WWE being in complete squash matches", whch you either believe CM Punk was in alot of "squash matches" or you believe he'll be in alot of "squash matches" in the future, yet you only mentioned one person "Stevie Richards" out of the few wrestlers that i've mentioned to actually say it was a "squash match". I was making the point that not all CM Punk's matches were "squash matches". So what is it, you believe all his matches were "squash matches" or what?
When it comes to ECW, I would agree with you that CM Punk needs to improve more with the ECW crowd, just for the simple fact not everyone has seen what he can do and alot of people don't know everything about him, so it would help the new CM Punk fans, so they can get a feel for everything can he can bring as a wrestler. I've seen enough of him to know what he can do, but not everyone has.
Aussie Hobo said:
CM Punk (Who is now just going to be called Punk) mike skill is no where good enough to succed in WWE/ECW, look at Shelton Benjamin, his mik skills are crap but wrestling ability is just amazing. And if the hype about his wrestling skill is true than I find him being the next Shelton, unless he improves on his mik skill now!
However Striker has great mike skill adn this is not TNA so wrestling ability has barely no credit in WWE/ECW, its all about selling the gimmick, selling storylines not putting on a match the remember, so with that mik skills are a must, if wrestlers want to succed in the business.
I like the point you made about Shelton Benjamin and totally agree with you on Shelton Benjamin, but CM Punk isn't Shelton Benjamin. These things happened to Shelton Benjamin, but it doesn't mean that they will happen to CM Punk or any other wrestler for that matter. You do have your opinions, but we don't know for a fact that this will indeed happen to CM Punk, because it hasn't happened yet.
It does take alot to be a successful wrestler when it comes to selling, ring presence, ring psychology, working the crowd, etc... Many wrestlers we see today don't have the total package as some that we've seen in the past, but they sometimes tend to make up for it in different ways, whether it be mic skills, working the crowd, in ring ability etc... You may believe that mic skills are more important, than in ring ability in the WWE, because the whole "entertainment" aspect of the WWE, but it also depends on the fan. Some fans rather see in ring ability and some rather see the "soap opera" side of the WWE. The WWE at times has brought the entertainment side of the product while still showcasing some of the wrestlers in ring ability, but they just need to learn how to do this all the time to make it a better product.
Like, i've said having mic skills would be helpful to develope the wrestlers character, but its not always necessary to have. That's why we've seen wrestlers with "mouth pieces", which would be a manager/valet. A perfect example of this in the WWE was The Undertaker during his earlier career with Paul Bearer as his manager and Paul Bearer speaking most of the time with Undertaker saying a few words such as "Rest In Peace". In more recent times a perfect example would be Brock Lesnar with Paul Heyman as his spokesman/manager, which was a good thing to help develope Lesnar's character, because he already had good in ring ability. Another good example is Chris Benoit. Look at all he has accomplished in his career and hes not known to have the best "mic skills", but rather in ring ability. Benoit won't be remembered for his mic skills, but for what he did the ring.
. But yes, wrestling ability can get you to the top but it takes an extremely long time, like for Benoit, what 20 - 10 years? Maybe having a manager type role for Punk, like they are doing with the Vampier "Kevin Thorn" who personally I think will be a great succes in ECW and can do some pretty powerful and awsome moves, would greatly improve the time it takes him to get to the top. I would love to see Striker and Punk succed, after watching the Samoa Joe vs. Punk video you pointed out for me in the ask a question thread, and has totally changed my opinion on him and my past posts were a bit to biased. So now I eagerly await the next ECW and hope Striker gets in the ring and takes on an opponent than playing Strikers classroom, which I do have to admit enjoying him dissing the crowd, I want him to get him to at least put on a match this week or the next. As for Punk, maybe have him do a promo an keep setting up this fued with Moore, which should be good as Moore can put on some good matches. 
