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This. I hate he died. 42 is too young for anyone, but I don't know anything about him. I'm sure he was decent but nothing great. RIP
Stupid Kimbo Slice Argument Thread
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This. I hate he died. 42 is too young for anyone, but I don't know anything about him. I'm sure he was decent but nothing great. RIP
Mighty NorCal
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What's wrong with saying he is dead because abused steroids? He IS dead because he abused steroids. He became a huge star from being HOMELESS because he abused steroids. Live by the sword, die by the sword. Nothing really wrong with it or tragic about it. I bet he would do it again if given the chance. That's how people with no other discernable talents or place in the world other than combat see things.
Good on him for becoming something of worth and showing others there is a way out. Sometimes those ways come with a toll to pay. He went from being homeless to being a huge star for the better part of a decade. More than most can say
Good on him for becoming something of worth and showing others there is a way out. Sometimes those ways come with a toll to pay. He went from being homeless to being a huge star for the better part of a decade. More than most can say
Makaveli31
Championship Contender
STFU you don't shit! You're just guessing like everyone. Do you have his medical records Dr.?!? Do you know about any other heart condition he might have had? STFU you POS.
He became a star because he abused steroids? That is a asinine statement. So anyone can stake steroids and become a ripped, 240 pound monster knocking people out? Why aren't there more Kimbo Slice's then? Who don't we all do it and make money?
Mighty NorCal
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My man...he failed numerous drug tests for steroids. As recently as his last fight, earlier this year. So no I'm not guessing, its widely known. He died of a heart attack at 42. With not so much as a heart murmur before this. No, I'm not a doctor, but you don't really need to be one. Yes, steroids played a huge roll in him getting were he got. Denying that is simply foolish.
Pull your head out of your ass
As I said, I don't mean any of this negatively. More power to him. Burned brighter than he ever would have, and went out with a win, dying as he lived. Few if us will be so fortunate.
Pull your head out of your ass
As I said, I don't mean any of this negatively. More power to him. Burned brighter than he ever would have, and went out with a win, dying as he lived. Few if us will be so fortunate.
Makaveli31
Championship Contender
Well first of all you don't know if he did or did not have a heart murmur or any other heart condition we do not know about. There are plenty of guys who "abused steroids" and are not dropping dead at 42. To say he died "because he abused steroids" like that's fact when it isn't is disrespectful. The FACT is you do not know, you can only speculate like everyone else. That's all I'm saying.
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/fl-kimbo-slice-update-0608-20160607-story.html
He needed a heart transplant.
Mighty NorCal
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Well I do know, because no MMA group would clear him to fight if he had a serious heart condition.
And it isn't disrespectful, its just the truth man. Lots of people abused lots of substances that kill and they don't die.....but steroids are a known cause of heart attacks, and he was a regular steroid abuser.
Hello? Sure some people who abuse steroids don't die from them, but many, many of them do. Do you think a muscled up athlete of a 42 year old man would just randomly up and have a heart attack? That's truly what you think is more plausible than what is blatantly obvious?
And it isn't disrespectful, its just the truth man. Lots of people abused lots of substances that kill and they don't die.....but steroids are a known cause of heart attacks, and he was a regular steroid abuser.
Hello? Sure some people who abuse steroids don't die from them, but many, many of them do. Do you think a muscled up athlete of a 42 year old man would just randomly up and have a heart attack? That's truly what you think is more plausible than what is blatantly obvious?
Mighty NorCal
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Ah, organ damage as well. How about we simply continue to deny steroids had anything to do with this
People who don't abuse drugs and who look like a Greek statue at 42 have random total heart failure all the time! Nevermind if you look up congestive heart failure, one of the main causes is....
Well take a guess
It is incredibly sad when someone dies at his age, doesn't matter who he is, how famous he was or whether he fought in the Octagon or on Youtube. He was a person and this was said about him today.
Ferguson leaves behind six children. His eldest son, Kevin Ferguson Jr, is also an MMA fighter. Otherwise known as Baby Slice, the 23-year-old made his MMA debut in March this year at an event held by Warrior Nation Xtreme Fighters Alliance.
Bellator MMA President Scott Coker released a statement on Tuesday afternoon, confirming Fergusons death and offering a kind tribute to the fighter.
We are all shocked and saddened by the devastating and untimely loss of Kimbo Slice, a beloved member of the Bellator family, Coker wrote.
One of the most popular MMA fighters ever, Kimbo was a charismatic, larger-than-life personality that transcended the sport.
Outside of the cage he was a friendly, gentle giant and a devoted family man. His loss leaves us all with extremely heavy hearts, and our thoughts and prayers are with the entire Ferguson family and all of Kimbos friends, fans, and teammates.
Ferguson leaves behind six children. His eldest son, Kevin Ferguson Jr, is also an MMA fighter. Otherwise known as Baby Slice, the 23-year-old made his MMA debut in March this year at an event held by Warrior Nation Xtreme Fighters Alliance.
Bellator MMA President Scott Coker released a statement on Tuesday afternoon, confirming Fergusons death and offering a kind tribute to the fighter.
We are all shocked and saddened by the devastating and untimely loss of Kimbo Slice, a beloved member of the Bellator family, Coker wrote.
One of the most popular MMA fighters ever, Kimbo was a charismatic, larger-than-life personality that transcended the sport.
Outside of the cage he was a friendly, gentle giant and a devoted family man. His loss leaves us all with extremely heavy hearts, and our thoughts and prayers are with the entire Ferguson family and all of Kimbos friends, fans, and teammates.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
Come on guys. We all know that unless you're singing their praises, you're not allowed to even speak of the dead for at least 2 years.
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Say what you want about the man's career, but the fact is the man was popular. Even casual MMA fans would have known who he was.
RIP Kimbo.
RIP Kimbo.
To be fair, his name is quite noticeable and different for people to take notice.
Da Prophet
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Questions have to be asked about Bellator considering this and the near death of Dada 5000 following their fight. If this doesn't end freak show fights in that company than nothing will.
Mighty NorCal
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Yea I made that point last night, that we were *this close* to having both guys in that fight dead. Not a good look
Mighty NorCal
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Well technically, both guys DID die. Dada heart stopped twice and they were able to resuscitate him.
Makaveli31
Championship Contender
Right because the MMA/boxing world is so full of reputable characters. Give me a goddamn break.
Steroids are known to cause heart attacks? Really? So do you know what else is in their body? Do you know what other substances they might or might not have abused? Or you just assume it was steroids?
Many, many do? Really? In what world do you live in where "many, many" 42 year old "muscled-up" people are just dropping dead from steroid use? And you have facts to back this up? I would it's opposite. SOME die MOST don't. We have to take into account genetics, family history of heart problems, diet, etc.....it's too easy to blame steroids.
Mighty NorCal
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So you contend that Strikeforce, Belator and UFC conspired to cover up Kimbo Slice long standing heart condition in order to risk him collapsing and dying in the middle of their pay per view?
And yes, steroid abuse is widely known to cause heart attacks, and is one of the specific causes of congestive heart failure, which is what happened to Kimbo.
You contend that an otherwise peak condition athlete with no known disorders who was a known steroid abuser just randomly up and had total congestive heart failure, not tied to one of the things that is known to cause it, that being steroid abuse?
You are making a fool of yourself.
And yes, steroid abuse is widely known to cause heart attacks, and is one of the specific causes of congestive heart failure, which is what happened to Kimbo.
You contend that an otherwise peak condition athlete with no known disorders who was a known steroid abuser just randomly up and had total congestive heart failure, not tied to one of the things that is known to cause it, that being steroid abuse?
You are making a fool of yourself.
Makaveli31
Championship Contender
Do you think those organizations (which have no union by the way) have the fighters' best interest in mind or their own pocket books? And how would they know if he had a degenerative heart condition?!? Last I checked they don't do MRI's or CT scans to cleat a fighter to fight.
And so do alot of other things. Sean Rooks, a former NBA pleayer, died today at the age of 46 of a heart attack. You attribute that to steroids also?
The key word is KNOWN you frickin idiot. No KNOWN disorders. How do you know there was not an UNKNOWN disorder. You are the MORON
Mighty NorCal
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Because the doctors who looked at him said it was congestive heart failure and no other defects? And he was a known steroid abuser, and steroids cause the exact condition that killed him? How much more simple could I possibly make this?
Yes, MMA leagues do only look out for their pocketbooks.....how do you think someone dying on the mat from a heart condition would work out for their pocketbooks? I implore you to use your brain and a little common sense. A basic full physical (which would reveal heart murmur or arythmia) is required by every athletic commission. Many of them also require full EKG including states who liscebsed Kimbo to fight. The fighting leagues themselves have nothing to do with it, and you clearly have no fucking idea what you are talking about. No unionization is precisely why sports commissions exist, and are applicable mostly to combat sports
Was Sean Rooks a known steroid abuser? Hello?
Yes, MMA leagues do only look out for their pocketbooks.....how do you think someone dying on the mat from a heart condition would work out for their pocketbooks? I implore you to use your brain and a little common sense. A basic full physical (which would reveal heart murmur or arythmia) is required by every athletic commission. Many of them also require full EKG including states who liscebsed Kimbo to fight. The fighting leagues themselves have nothing to do with it, and you clearly have no fucking idea what you are talking about. No unionization is precisely why sports commissions exist, and are applicable mostly to combat sports
Was Sean Rooks a known steroid abuser? Hello?
Makaveli31
Championship Contender
WHat do you mean no other defects?!? Like what?!? When you die SUDDENLY of a heart attack there are no other defects!! His heart failed. We don't know why. You ASSUME it was steroids but where are your facts? I can point to NUMEROUS other cases there the HEART (which is a muscle) has failed and steroids were NOT involved. How do you know if this case was any different from the rest?!? Like I have said REPEATEDLY, there are other FACTORS also. Take into account, genetics, FAMILY history of heart problems, etc....we have seen cases of people dying of heart attacks at young ages with NO explanation. You just point to steroids. If that was the CASE there would be ALOT more people dying of heart failure if it was JUST steroids.
It might catch a heart murmer but it's not going catch a heart attack or stroke. Use YOUR brain. How would a physical catch an impending heart attack or stroke?!? Those are SUDDEN events. If you are LUCKY you might survive one but there is nothing that's going to say "you're going to die of heart failure."
Oh so you have to be a known steroid abuser to die from steroid use. No other explanation needed right?!? These two men just died from the same exact thing but one was a steroid user so HIS death can be explained by steroid use but the other not.
You are a special one
Mighty NorCal
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My facts are the particular heart condition that killed him has specific causes, and one of them is steroid abuse, and he was a known steroid abuser. Both facts.
And yes, you do need to be a steroid abuser to die from steroid abuse
A jacked to the gills 42 year old fighter who is a known steroid abuser died from a condition caused by steroids with no other medical conditions or any trouble passing a prior physical but it wasn't from steroids?
Its incredible this is even an argument
And yes, you do need to be a steroid abuser to die from steroid abuse
A jacked to the gills 42 year old fighter who is a known steroid abuser died from a condition caused by steroids with no other medical conditions or any trouble passing a prior physical but it wasn't from steroids?
Its incredible this is even an argument
Hyorinmaru
Sit Upon The Frozen Heavens
So how many times are you going to call Norcal ******ed before you realize it's you who is looking like an idiot?
Makaveli31
Championship Contender
There are also other specific causes. So you don't know. You are speculating.
So every steroid abuser dies from steroid use. What a moron
