Smart Comedy or New Generation Comedy

[FSWWE]

I've seen a documentary about it, and i would love to read your thoughts...

Smart Comedy is usual represented by Woody Allen, with "Manhattan" and "Annie Hall" being is best work...
Also smart comedy can be linked with Charlie Chaplin, Leslie Nielsen, Robin Williams, Rowan Atkinson and Others...
The Cohen Brothers and The Big Lebowski are a great modern example of a good smart comedy, as well as Juno...

New Generation or Teen Comedy is represented by a lot of new guys, like Ben Stiller, Eddie Murphy, Adam Sandler, Jim Carrey, Seth Rogan and more...
Probably the most known movie of this genre is "American Pie", that brought the new type of teen comedy and a forced laugh (Jim fucking a pie)
We also have "The Mask", "Norbit", "Grown Ups", "scary Movie", "Epic Movie" etc...
The critcs doesn't like the new comedy movies, they tend to say that is to forced and that they don't think in the plot, but only in the laugh for stupid and childish things...

My Opinion:
I love the New Gen Comedy, they are from my generation, and a Woody Allen movie doesn't call for my attention, they are boring, it is definitely not the type of movies I would see if I want to laugh...
Movies like "The Hangover", "The Fockers", "Superbad", "American Pie" are great comedies, we could put a 500 people in a room re-viewing these movies, and they would still laugh pretty bad...


Which genre do you like the most? Smart Comedy or Teen Comedy?
What is the best Comedy Film that you have ever seen?
Who is the best comedy actor?

 

[Smartie]

Smart comedy.

You know if you are in a silent room and someone farts, that's probably gonna crack you up. That's new gen comedy. Glorious fart.

Woody Allen is a real artist. I don't laugh at cheap jokes, but I connect with characters and story in an emotional way and the laugh I get satisfies me way more, because It's natural. Forced laugh make me feel I'm wasting my time.

The best comedy film would probably be Modern Times or Manhattan, but the movie that I laughed at the hardest is Snatch. Good god I've seen it 15 times, and I know all the lines and i still laugh when I watch it.

I really can't find an answer for it but in past ten years I'd give it to either Will Ferrel or Jack Black (ignoring the Gulliver shit), but the funniest actor of this age is without a shadow of a doubt , Robert Downey Jr.

 

[FitFinlay4Life]

I've seen a documentary about it, and i would love to read your thoughts...

Smart Comedy is usual represented by Woody Allen, with "Manhattan" and "Annie Hall" being is best work...
Also smart comedy can be linked with Charlie Chaplin, Leslie Nielsen, Robin Williams, Rowan Atkinson and Others...
The Cohen Brothers and The Big Lebowski are a great modern example of a good smart comedy, as well as Juno...

New Generation or Teen Comedy is represented by a lot of new guys, like Ben Stiller, Eddie Murphy, Adam Sandler, Jim Carrey, Seth Rogan and more...
Probably the most known movie of this genre is "American Pie", that brought the new type of teen comedy and a forced laugh (Jim fucking a pie)
We also have "The Mask", "Norbit", "Grown Ups", "scary Movie", "Epic Movie" etc...
The critcs doesn't like the new comedy movies, they tend to say that is to forced and that they don't think in the plot, but only in the laugh for stupid and childish things...

My Opinion:
I love the New Gen Comedy, they are from my generation, and a Woody Allen movie doesn't call for my attention, they are boring, it is definitely not the type of movies I would see if I want to laugh...
Movies like "The Hangover", "The Fockers", "Superbad", "American Pie" are great comedies, we could put a 500 people in a room re-viewing these movies, and they would still laugh pretty bad...


Which genre do you like the most? Smart Comedy or Teen Comedy?
What is the best Comedy Film that you have ever seen?
Who is the best comedy actor?

For a start these definitions are just stupid, 'New Gen'? By the definitions here, all silent comedy is 'New Gen' in that we laugh at physicalities rather than intelligent dialogue.

'Charlie Chaplin, Leslie Nielsen, Robin Williams, Rowan Atkinson'... these are examples of 'Smart Comedy' actors... as Miz would say - "Really?" Mr Bean is smart comedy? Rat Race? Airplane!? Naked Gun? Dracula: Dead & Lovin It? Even Chaplin's most famous comedies are based around pratfalls which places it within the New Gen definition as described here.

I think the definitions this documentary was looking for was High or Low Brow, where the humour is either more cerebral (high) or circumstantial (low). This places film like Groundhog Day, Coen Brothers, Juno (which can be described as a teen comedy), Duck Soup et cetera in the high brow category. Airplane!, Animal House, Farrelly Brothers, Laurel & Hardy's classic The Piano would then be in the low brow category.

But even within these two encompassing terms, many comedies are not as simply defined, Blazing Saddles is at first glance a straightforward low brow comedy but if we look deeper we see that is a satire on the racisms and bias of the old west ("All right... we'll give some land to the ******s and the chinks. But we don't want the Irish!"), hints at extreme incestual (everyone in Rock Ridge has the surname Johnson) and on many occasions makes both insider and obvious jokes at Hollywood and movies. Monty Python's Life Of Brian is incredibly high brow in concept (it parodies religion and it's followers) but yet is full of low brow comedy (laughing at the lisping Pontius Pilate).

I like both and do like a degree of crossover, reflex comedy is good but a sharp dialogue is actually more likely to stick in the mind - example, Blazing Saddles - the farting scene versus "Mornin', ma'am. And isn't it a lovely mornin'?" "Up yours, ******!"

I'm no good at picking my favourite film as it can vary from day to day, but comedy examples would be The Princess Bride, The Blues Brothers, Life Of Brian, Stripes, Top Secret, Ferris Bueller, Duck Soup, Get Over It (and if you ask me again in a month, I might list a completely different group).

Likewise, I struggle to pick a favourite actor - I adored John Belushi but he has only a small cannon of films, Dan Aykroyd has been in several greats in this genre but has been in some dross too, John Candy - to many supporting roles, Adam Sandler - rinse and repeat character, Ben Stiller - great one film and to far up his own ass the next, Bill Murray - comes across as trying to prove his acting potential in the past decade, Tom Hanks - can we count him as a comedic actor?

Rather than pick out individuals then I'll pick a series of films and the actors that make up their own little New Jersey world - Kevin Smith's View Askewniverse (incorporating Clerks, Mallrats, Chasing Amy, Dogma, J&SB Strike Back and Clerks II). Why? This series covers all that has been described above from the high brow Amy to the the decidedly low brow Strikes Back and yet they are all undoubtedly companion pieces.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

Which genre do you like the most? Smart Comedy or Teen Comedy?

Smart Comedy all the way. I don't watch comedy for the shock value, that's pretty cheap to me. I want something with enough wit that it doesn't just get old to me.

What is the best Comedy Film that you have ever seen?

The Big Lebowski. Such an awesome movie. Really got me hooked on Jeff Bridges, and the mock-religion of Dudeism. I am a Dudeist, as everyone should be. I can't recall another comedy that has such a strong cult following like Lebowski. Maybe Ghostbusters, but The Dude still holds strong as the best one I have seen.

Who is the best comedy actor?

Bill Murray. Everything I have seen him in (except Garfield, but that wasn't his fault) I have enjoyed it. Caddyshack and Ghostbusters stick out in my mind the most, two Smart Comedies I do believe.

Never really thought about the differences in Comedy Films, but I see it now.