Should WWE hire Kevin Steen?

[Strife543]

Well as the title says should wwe hire Kevin Steen?
Kevin Steen is one of the most impressive guys on the ROH roster he is the current roh champion.
His promos and mic skills are some of the greatest currently in pro wrestling reminds me of a hybrid of austin/punk his pipe bombish promo at Best in the world was great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2wVM2G7Se4


Kevin Steen is impressive in the ring his match with davey richards at best in the world 2012 was one of the greatest matches in ROH history and his match with generico in 2010 was one of the greatest roh matches as well
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcS7co-CXY0


So that brings me to this.
Would Kevin Steen work well in the WWE?

Would you like to see Steen in the WWE and who would be a great star for steen to feud with?

Would Steen work in a PG enviroment?

 

[The Dragon Saga]

No.

Kevin Steen doesn't belong in WWE, at least not yet, or in the near future may I add. He isn't a CM Punk or a Bryan Danielson, Kevin Steen will admit himself to not being the prettiest wrestler that the world has ever bestowed their eyes upon, his in-ring style isn't the most accurate or neat way of performing people have ever seen, he isn't someone who sets the world on fire by just wrestling, he sets the world on fire by speaking, and then backing up his words.

WWE sign Kevin Steen tomorrow, several negatives will arise. One being, WWE won't allow him to continue the character he portrays within Ring of Honor or Pro Wrestling Guerrilla. Two, WWE won't allow Kevin Steen to use the Package Piledriver, a move that anywhere in the country, when performed makes people burst out of their seats. And three, they'll be ripping the fire from Ring of Honor before its even had time to truly start burning.

Kevin Steen is the hottest thing in pro-wrestling, global, regional, independent, international or otherwise, but everything he gained his success off, everything he gained his reputation off and everything he gained his fans off is everything WWE won't be able to capitalize on without giving him some major leeway. And even if they do that, people who are unfamiliar with Steen will start complaining anyway because of the fact he is admittedly fat, has admittedly stated he doesn't plan on getting jacked and he can do more on the indies than he could in a national company.

Steen has previously blasted WWE. He only blasted two of their top talents over the weekend - whether he meant it or not, is debatable - and him joining WWE right now, would be a bigger loss to the indies than it would be a gain to WWE, who'd probably place him in Florida for months on end, tweak everything that made him notable in the beginning and then tear away what made Kevin Steen, "Wrestling's Worst Nightmare" which is the gimmick that has truly gotten him over.

Kevin Steen is the modern day Cactus Jack in a lot of ways. His look isn't exactly what you'd label marketable, his character easily stands out, his microphone work is beyond that of three-quarters the contracted guys of both top companies and he is legitimately a freakin' lunatic e.g. the splash to the outside at Best In The World onto Davey Richards.

WWE may sign him someday, distant, hopefully. But they won't sign him now. This isn't CM Punk or Bryan who you could take away and instantly gel into the development surroundings, because they didn't have gimmicks that went against everything WWE rarely acknowledge. Would he fit into a PG environment? No. Would he work well in WWE? Give him time and he'd work well anywhere.

Would I like to see Kevin Steen in WWE? Hell no. Why move something that is far from being stale yet.

 

[The Crock]

I totally disagree with Dragon Saga, the WWE should absolutely hire Kevin Steen. I understand that he doesn't necessarily fit the mold of what a "normal" WWE superstar should be like, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a damn good professional wrestler. Not to mention, that we have indy guys like CM Punk and Daniel Bryan -- who, in their own right, didn't fit the WWE "mold" -- as some of the top guys. Steen, a guy with plenty of talent to spare, would fit right in and become a great hand in the WWE, I'm sure of it. Now, I'm not guaranteeing huge, over-the-top success for Steen -- but he'd probably be a solid midcarder, with some main event potential. You never know, though -- it all depends on how the crowd would spark with Steen and he certainly knows how to get a reaction.

I can see how some people would think he'd be destined for failure, with his gimmick and the current climate in the WWE, but I don't agree with that. Steen's gimmick doesn't require profanity and graphic violence, it only requires that he's allowed to talk and antagonize the crowd -- just like any other heel. As long as Steen gets on the mic, he'd draw great heat; he knows what to say, he knows how to say it, he knows when to say it, etc. Steen's one of the best mic men in the business and there's always a use for someone of his stature, regardless of the company. Steen has a great mind for the business, he's got an engaging personality, and he can play his character PERFECTLY.

Kevin Steen should definitely be hired. Marketability means jack, when you have talent. CM Punk isn't "marketable," either -- yet, somehow, he's slowly becoming WWE's secondary go-to guy. Even so, you can't HONESTLY expect Steen to be built around, right? I love Steen as much as the next guy, but he's a niche guy. WWE doesn't look at niche guys in terms of their marketability, they just look for ability. Steen is an excellent professional wrestler and a versatile one, at that. To say he'd be doomed just because of not being able to use his finishing moves (or what have you) is just foolish. Steen could get a reaction using anything, because he's got timing and he knows how to deliver. I don't react to the Package Piledriver because it looks brutal, I react to it because of how Steen uses it. He could just as easily start using something else, just as effectively.

People look too deeply into these things. Talent is talent -- it'll always be needed. Steen may not be a cookie-cutter WWE talent, but that whole state of mind is a little archaic, isn't it? Steen would be a fine addition to the roster, no doubt about it. Steen would work just as hard as he is now, to be as good as he can, on a bigger stage. Kevin Steen needs to be signed.

 

[Martin Gabriel]

I agree with alot of what Dragon Saga says. Of course I'm an advocate for any good wrestler to be able to go get the big paychecks from WWE but not all are able to be like a Nigel McGuinness. I'm sure he makes decent money as a top guy in top indies like ROH and PWG and surely other bookings.

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Kevin Steen is the hottest thing in pro-wrestling, global, regional, independent, international or otherwise, but everything he gained his success off, everything he gained his reputation off and everything he gained his fans off is everything WWE won't be able to capitalize on without giving him some major leeway.

I've been less of a smark lately than I can usually attest to being, so I would group myself more into the mainstream fanpool at the moment than I would would like.

Considering I had never heard of this person before this thread was created, how can this person be considered the "hottest thing in pro-wrestling." I couldn't honestly care less if WWE hired this guy or not...I'm merely taking objection to a statement where a guy who wrestles for an organization that about 2 people watch per week on the internet could be "the hottest thing in wrestling." Heath Slater is "hotter" than this guy.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

Hmmm... Well, I don't know if he could pull off a Dusty Rhodes type of character. A very big guy, but not too big, but works well in the ring. I have seen some of his work in ROH. He isn't bad at all.

But, I don't know if he is a big enough draw for the WWE. In addition to that, how would the WWE portray him. I wouldn't be shocked to see him in TNA. He could go there, and main event there. Make his name bigger in the IWC.

I really don't know how WWE would use him. I think the WWE would have him job to a lot of guys. Might not be so good for his career. Seeing him get hit with the cobra three or four times a month wouldn't help anyone's career.

So far, I would have to say no.

 

[sXeB34ST]

I personally as a wrestling fan, would love to see Kevin Steen in the WWE and on the roster. However, look at the PG product. It's just simply not going to happen. Kevin Steen is a relatively small guy, he's not the average height of a wrestler, so he'd come off as very short and out of shape on WWE TV, especially with guys like Randy Orton or John Cena with segments following. While Steen has all the talent, in the ring and on the microphone to make him a viable WWE superstar, I simply can't see it happening for one major reason.

Kevin Steen does not pop off your screen, at all. He doesn't exude that natural charisma. If Steen walked into a room, I wouldn't do anything but glance at him and look away. And that's coming from someone whose gone to countless PWG shows. It would take a few minutes for me to realize who he was. He doesn't have that intangible 'it factor' that everyone talks about. And his way of compensating for his unorthodox style and appearance, is his vicious nature. And that alone is something that wouldn't cope well to current WWE programming. So despite me thinking he DESERVES to be there, no.

WWE should NOT hire Kevin Steen, granted; it's because of their status quot and how they present their content. It has nothing to do with whether Steen is good enough or not.

 

[BigLuther]

This question crossed my mind as I was watching the iPPV the other night, and I think the answer I came up with is no. I feel like if they were to sign him, they'd just let him sit in developmental and be wasted, just like Colt Cabana. If they were to let him be himself on the main roster and have him come in and just maul people, that could be fun, but I don't see WWE doing that. I really believe his talent would be wasted in WWE and he should just keep doing the awesome work he's doing in ROH.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

I've been less of a smark lately than I can usually attest to being, so I would group myself more into the mainstream fanpool at the moment than I would would like.

Considering I had never heard of this person before this thread was created, how can this person be considered the "hottest thing in pro-wrestling." I couldn't honestly care less if WWE hired this guy or not...I'm merely taking objection to a statement where a guy who wrestles for an organization that about 2 people watch per week on the internet could be "the hottest thing in wrestling." Heath Slater is "hotter" than this guy.

Actually, 400,000 watch.

Plus, I stated in any type of promotion, he is the hottest thing in pro-wrestling. Unless you've watched him, you can't judge. Unless you watched his match with Davey and the fans reaction towards him the past year, you can't judge. Unless you realize he is the World Champion of the two biggest independent promotions in Ring of Honor and Pro Wrestling Guerrilla, can't judge.

Nobody is riding momentum like him, currently. Not Punk, nor Bryan, Roode or otherwise, in their respective companies. This guy basically told the live New York crowd that they suck and received a cheer. You don't have to be in the WWE to be riding a wave of momentum. You don't have to be appearing on Wrestlemania. All the proof needed for that, is Kevin Steen.

 

[The Fabulous Rougeau's]

Not a ROH guy so this is the first time I have seen or heard of Steen. That pildriver of his is sick. To bad if he ever makes it to the WWE they would never let him use it as besides Undertakers Tombstone, the last time I remember seeing a piledriver in the WWE was at WrestleMania 23 with Shawn hitting it on Cena on the steel steps (Such a sweet spot).

 

[dman1373]

Actually, 400,000 watch.

Plus, I stated in any type of promotion, he is the hottest thing in pro-wrestling. Unless you've watched him, you can't judge. Unless you watched his match with Davey and the fans reaction towards him the past year, you can't judge. Unless you realize he is the World Champion of the two biggest independent promotions in Ring of Honor and Pro Wrestling Guerrilla, can't judge.

Nobody is riding momentum like him, currently. Not Punk, nor Bryan, Roode or otherwise, in their respective companies. This guy basically told the live New York crowd that they suck and received a cheer. You don't have to be in the WWE to be riding a wave of momentum. You don't have to be appearing on Wrestlemania. All the proof needed for that, is Kevin Steen.

Well Steen has been hot since his fued with el genericho. Its just been hidden behind cm punks hot streak, and then daniel bryans hot streak. And now hes the champion roh and pwg, which is a pretty big deal. If anyone thinks thats not a big deal, then there just fooling them self.

 

[Police Penis Sucking Goat Fucker]

This would be Kevin Steen's career in WWE I'm sure they just give him a dumb name like Skylark Marvin or Jumbo Noogenhymer and have him stay in FCW for years just to become someone’s goon then maybe get a small push for like a month or 2 then be forgotten about he will be released and go back to ROH

 

[Steamboat Ricky]

Actually, 400,000 watch.

Look out! That shit is hot!!!


No. A person that garners the attention of .1% of the population of the United States does not equate to "the hottest thing in pro-wrestling." Note...you said hottEST. To find that "thing," I would attempt watching the programing that attracts quite a larger audience.

Plus, I stated in any type of promotion, he is the hottest thing in pro-wrestling. Unless you've watched him, you can't judge. Unless you watched his match with Davey and the fans reaction towards him the past year, you can't judge. Unless you realize he is the World Champion of the two biggest independent promotions in Ring of Honor and Pro Wrestling Guerrilla, can't judge.

Yes...I can. If I haven't seen something, then it isn't very "hot" is it? If it was "hot," I would know about it.

 

[DirtyD79]

This would be Kevin Steen's career in WWE I'm sure they just give him a dumb name like Skylark Marvin or Jumbo Noogenhymer and have him stay in FCW for years just to become someone’s goon then maybe get a small push for like a month or 2 then be forgotten about he will be released and go back to ROH

That plus they'd take take away everything that gets him over. Oh no we can't have somebody not being PG, The little kiddies will have nightmares. And we can't have him beating up their pwecious John Cena or they'll cry and we gotta send the little bastards home happy.

 

[MINISTRYrising]

if kevin steen was to go anywhere it should be to tna. i think they would be more open to letting him keep his finisher. they let eric young us the pilldriver. and think of the great matches he could have with people like samoa joe. austin aries, aj styles it would be awsome. they would just have to let him be himself and not try and change his character

 

[Peep]

I've been less of a smark lately than I can usually attest to being... I had never heard of this person before this thread was created

Uh, what? You consider yourself a "smark" but you wouldn't have been able to name the PWG and ROH World Champion before you read this thread? Yeah, thanks for playing.

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WWE is the last place I want to see Kevin Steen. Luckily, I don't see WWE ever taking a shot on him anyway, but I still would never want them to.

Steen would never fit in with WWE. For one, what's gotten him over in ROH simply would not work in WWE. What makes Steen great in ROH isn't his charisma or look. It's the fact that he's a foul-mouthed badass who backs up what he says and truly does come off as "Wrestling's Worst Nightmare." This would never, ever fly in WWE. If he signed, he would be repackaged faster than you could say whatever goofy ring name they'd give him.

Second, he truly doesn't have the "look". I know this is usually an overrated term, but I think it's totally relevant when it comes to Steen. He is billed at just under 6 feet tall and being 240 pounds (may be a little conservative). That's short for a big dude in WWE. That would put him under just about every main event man in WWE, save Daniel Bryan maybe. He comes off as much larger when you watch ROH; especially when he's booked against Davey Richards. I think putting him in the same ring as a guy like John Cena, Randy Orton, CM Punk etc. would make him come off as awkward looking and not believable.

Steen is fine where he's at. He's a great ROH champion and probably the most entertaining guy to watch outside of the top two companies in North America. I'd rather watch him stay where he's at and continue to be entertaining than sign with WWE, disappear off the face of the earth, and maybe never even get called up to the big leagues.

 

[MrMojoRisin]

I don't watch ROH, so I've never seen Kevin Steen enough to have an opinion either way...

but the talk about how he wouldn't fit into the WWE... doesn't have the right 'look'... wouldn't be believable or be allowed to do what makes him good in the first place...

reminds me an awful lot of Mick Foley back when he was first trying to catch on with the WWF.

This was before the Attitude Era, and the WWF was very much PG during this time. Every year, Foley would put in a call to the WWF looking for work, and every year JJ Dillon would say pretty much the exact same things to Foley when turning him down.

How did that end up working out?

 

[Peep]

I don't watch ROH, so I've never seen Kevin Steen enough to have an opinion either way...

but the talk about how he wouldn't fit into the WWE... doesn't have the right 'look'... wouldn't be believable or be allowed to do what makes him good in the first place...

reminds me an awful lot of Mick Foley back when he was first trying to catch on with the WWF.

This was before the Attitude Era, and the WWF was very much PG during this time. Every year, Foley would put in a call to the WWF looking for work, and every year JJ Dillon would say pretty much the exact same things to Foley when turning him down.

How did that end up working out?

Apples and oranges. You know what Mick also had that Steen doesn't? An extra four inches of height and forty pounds. Mick was awkward looking, yes, but he was never smaller than your average heavyweight in height or weight class. The same could not be said about Steen with today's main eventers in WWE.

 

[Shotaro]

Short Answer: No.

Long Answer: No because

• Steen is good in the ring, but he's not really in great shape. He's BILLED at less than 6ft and BILLED at over 250lbs (I'd guess he's more like 5'8" and 240) - he'd end up spending a looong goddamn time on the treadmills at some gym in Flordia before WWE would even consider putting him on TV - Husky Harris being an example of a guy who was also overweight and they bumped his ass back to Florida until he was in better shape.
• The WWE roster is already too damn crowded. Steen may well be the best wrestler in the world or at least one of the hottest prospects - when there are ALREADY over 50 guys on the roster most of whom do not get a significant amount of TV time anyway - regardless of how good he is with his look right now even if they did put him on TV right away he'd get lost in the mix real fast.

 

[MrMojoRisin]

Apples and oranges. You know what Mick also had that Steen doesn't? An extra four inches of height and forty pounds. Mick was awkward looking, yes, but he was never smaller than your average heavyweight in height or weight class. The same could not be said about Steen with today's main eventers in WWE.

Like I said. I haven't seen Steen, so the only opinion I have is what I've read about him in this thread. To be honest though, what I've read interests me. I might have to check him out.

I just find it really interesting that the exact same things that Foley heard before he got hired by the WWF, are what's being said about Steen in this thread.

Just for that reason alone... I'd never say never.

Besides. I don't buy into the cookie cutter WWE Superstar mentality. I like diversity. I want to see an average sized fat guy with a big mouth who likes to fight. I'll always believe that there's a place for that guy in the WWE.