Should there be another member to The Real Americans?

[NxtBigThing]

Just like the title asks should there be another member of The Real Americans? I think with Zeb as the mouth piece and if they plan on giving Swagger a push that another member or two would be helpful. If I was going to pick a new member I think Big E would be a good fit. Big E seemed like he had a push but all of a sudden it was taken away. I figured if he is lost in the shuffle why not pair him up with Swagger? Both are good wrestlers with power so if they teamed they would add some good depth to a tag team division that I believe has promise but is still currently lacking. What do you guys think?

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Given that Swagger is now gonna be feuding with Rusev and that Rusev has decisively beaten Big E in two consecutive ppv matches, I don't really see Big E joining up with the Real Americans. Also, this doesn't necessarily mean that Swagger will be getting a push. Big E came out to confront Rusev, he waved the flag and "stood up" for America but he ultimately came out on the losing end. Swagger's a former World Heavyweight Champion, so maybe he'll be booked as somebody who'll be the next step in the slow build for Rusev.

Given that Swagger is the one who put Wade Barrett into the security barricade last Tuesday that resulted in a shoulder separation that'll put Barrett out for months, I just don't think that Swagger is in line for a push. I know that it could've happened with anyone else to anyone else on the roster, but this makes twice that Swagger has injured a wrestler in the past 12 months resulting in their careers suffering a major setback.

However, I might be completely wrong and maybe WWE is gonna push Swagger. If so and if they were to add another "Real American" to the group, nobody really jumps out at me. It's something that MIGHT be a boon to some wrestlers on the roster if they were to be given a complete character overhaul like Zack Ryder, Kofi Kingston or a few others. However, I'd rather wait a bit and see where this ultimately goes with Swagger.

 

[Tyrant25]

Sometimes, less is more. And that is the case in the Real Americans. The pairing of Jack Swagger and Zeb Coulter has been gold for months (well, maybe just Coulter). RAW's segment with Swagger turning face against the heel, anti-American Rusev and the loud pop from the audience was great and I hope the feud elevates both stars. Right now though, no, the Real Americans don't need another member.

 

[Dagger Dias]

I liked The Real Americans tag team, despite it never making any sense for Cesaro to have been in it in the first place although that is a whole other topic. Ever since Cesaro left the team I have thought that he would be replaced. I'm honestly surprised that they had not added a new member to the Real Americans yet. People have suggested guys like Big E or Sandow. It needs to be anyone who is able to put on a good match but might need the assistance of Zeb when it comes to promos. Sandow does not fall into the category of not being gifted on the mic, while Big E does. Cesaro and Swagger worked as a team, they had good matches and Zeb did the talking. That's how it should stay if anyone else does join. If someone does, it needs to be someone who would benefit from it. Someone who struggles on the mic but can still work a match, that way they fill the void that Cesaro left when he joined Heyman. Or at this point.... maybe they never add anyone. I agree with those who doubt Swagger himself is getting another major push anytime soon.

 

[GameOver]

How can you have a group called the Real Americans and not include the biggest one of all. The guy who's entrance theme coined the phrase in the wrestling world wide.

personally i give a sheet, Jack Swagger is a dead donkey, no salvagability, he had his chance twice and blew it once and has obviously been recieving the punishment ever since, how can they expect someone to be a believable threat when they job to every tom dick and harry

 

[RipRoarin75]

After reviewing the current roster on WWE.com, I'm going out on a limb here and suggesting Zach Ryder. While his current gimmick is not a match, it's all the more reason to give his character a complete make over. Tone down the "Long Island, Iced Z" gimmick, introduce neutral ring gear (to start), and a bit more scruff. I think you could test the waters for 4-6 weeks on the house show circuit. Let Mantell (Coulter) do the talking for the two of them and see where it goes. Even if they lose, it gets him back on TV. Ryder is malleable and has the talent/drive to get himself over.

 

[Viola Moonlight]

They've already added another member to the Real Americans and it was evident on Monday Night RAW... well, maybe I should add members. They've added the WWE Universe to the Real Americans.

If you're talking about wrestlers then no-one else join them. They already had Cesaro join Swagger & Coulter to do the tag team thing and re-visiting that storyline would be a step backwards. Let them try being faces this time and see how things pan out. The place was about to explode with the Swagger/Rusev stand-off so they've gotten off to a great start.

 

[Un-Bo-Lievable Jeff]

I would assume this programme goes to Summerslam with Rusev being the overall winner, I reckon a possible Hogan appearence is coming but it's a long shot.

Swagger could go back to mediocrity after Rusev, as there are not many anti-american opponents. Del Rio could be made into one, but after that i'm struggling to think of anything. I think a tag team would suit him at the moment but not a lot of heel tag teams apart from the Wyatt's so WWE would need to come up with a couple of new pairings

 

[rge2010]

I think with The Shield disbanding, and 3MB losing members then there is definately room for another faction. I wasn't a massive fan of Cesaro joining the 'Real Americans' but you can see why they did it.

It is about time Swagger turned face, probably about 2/3 years too late but lets see what they do with this. Rusev is the perfect opponent to get Swagger over. He is really despised by the WWE Universe. Be interesting to see what gosepl Coulter starts to yap now, because his heel promos were pretty amazing. Sadly I think Swagger is being fed to Rusev and the real american hero John Cena will be the one to end Rusevs dominance in the coming months. This feud is a filler for that programme and purely being used to get Rusev nuclear heat.

As for a new member, yes please, I love factions!!! Throw in Mark Henry as some muscle, a guy who represented the USA at the Olympics, and maybe look to turn Curtis Axel face. It hasnt worked out as a heel, but the Henning name could give him a little momentum as a face and as a 'Real American'.

 

[J.J.]

I wish one topic could go without the mentioning of inserting Dolph Ziggler or Zach Ryder into a feud or faction. Let's just see how the feud developes, it appears Swagger is starting to gain some momentum after being pretty much at a standstill the last couple years. The fans really got behind him Monday night - this good guy switch has been much needed for some time. I don't want to see anyone else thrown into Real Americans as it doesn't make sense for this feud. Rusev is one guy.

 

[UFOcalling]

If I was Jack Thwagger, I'd be nervous if they were considering adding another member to The Real Americans. With all the hot water that Thwagger has gotten himthelf into over the years (and with the recent injury he caused the IC Champion), a new "Real American" could just spell Thwagger's departure from the company. If they added another "Real American" to the fold, it could just be so that Zeb could manage someone else - and Swagger would be slowly phased out of the equation all together.

This face turn for Zeb & Swagger means one of two things: either Jack is in line for a push, or he's just being fed to Rusev (probably the latter). When Jack first came out on Monday, I was thinking Swagger & Rusev were about to have an impromptu squash match right then & there. I'm glad I was wrong, because the crowd ate it up with a spoon. The WWE was right to make this a high profile feud, and having Zeb & Jack feud with Lana & Rusev should make for a good build-up before BattleGround. This feud could spill over into SummerSlam as well, as long as good ol' Thwagger can keep his nose clean until then.

To answer the main question, I don't think they should add another Real American to the group - unless Jack's face turn falls flat. If Jack doesn't pull his weight, then maybe they should consider making him half of another tag team. God knows the division could use more teams, heel or face.

 

[RipRoarin75]

Being new here, I am not yet familiar with the frequency for which Ziggler or Ryder are mentioned.

With that being said, I think Dagger Dias saw in a previous thread, that I'm a firm believer in placing talent in tag-teams when there are no immediate plans to push them as singles stars. Jack Swagger is a fine talent. He's not an "A" player, but with more work he could be. Right now he's engaged in a storyline that will see him put over Rusev (and that's also fine). Rusev is a classic heel persona and that works well for facing other personalities.

I actually think it would be interesting if Swagger turned on Coulter (and the USA) and joined Rusev. Almost go "Ivan Drago/Krusher Kruschev". Renounce his citizenship and proclaim himself a Russian sympathizer.

I think tag-teams (and factions) are a great way to utilize talent when they don't have a singles push in store. I've grown to like "Rybaxel", "Rhodes/Dust Brothers". I think impromptu pairings can be interesting. I thought Henry/Langston was an interesting "Monster" pairing.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

From RAW I don't think it's a danger... The face turn was done very well indeed and seemed natural, the fans wanted to like Swagger for some time it seems, a bit like with Barrett and this has just given them the chance to cheer rather than boo him.

Zeb as a "face" I'm not so sure of... I could see him turning on Swagger for "pandering" to the fans. To me this seems a logical Hulk Hogan situation, I can see him as the referee for their match if he can do it more likely Zeb being "crushed" by Rusev at Lana's command. If and when she goes face down the line, embracing America etc her and Swagger would make a pretty good team.

If there is going to be another Real American it WILL be Hogan...

 

[stanmak88]

If the only push for Swagger is to elevate Rusev, then add Heath Slater to the Real Americans. Proven tag team guy, Former Tag Team Champ, and, well, about as American as you can get. Granted, Slater is one of the jobber squad at this time (as is Swagger to an extent), but with a little tweeking could possibly be good add for that team. And if the crowd doesn't take to it, Zeb could give him the boot.

 

[Mustang Sally]

My initial reaction is to say there should be another member, yet there are several ways to go with this, mostly because we're not yet sure whether or not the team is turning face.

Just think about how pro wrestling has changed over the years.....long ago, can you imagine a team of patriots being booed by the fans? Sergeant Slaughter truly altered the landscape of heel/face dealings, whether we realize it or not. ("Drop and give me fifty, maggot!")

But in the case of the Real Americans, they certainly brought it off, didn't they? Zeb Colter has the type of presence that would allow him to be the mouthpiece for one performer.....or an entire troop of them.

One might say that Zeb leading Jack Swagger into battle is enough. My problem with it is Jack's utter lack of presence on the mic. He's a terrific wrestler, yes, but I feel the team would be better served with a guy who has some personality. In that regard, Big E would totally be the wrong choice; he can't speak any better than Swagger.....plus, E's patriotism showed itself only in response to Rusev and Lana's display of anti-Americanism. For the Bulgarian, Big E is only a small step on his march up the WWE ladder. There are much bigger things ahead for Rusev than Big E. In that way, having Big E as a Real American would provide minimal impact.

If the Real Americans remain heel, there are probably many bad guys on the roster might suffice as a member. But as things stand, Zeb Colter should have more human ammunition on his side.

 

[RedRegan1005]

On a somewhat related note. I loved the segment with Swagger, and Rusev this past Monday. Why? Cause it made sense. It didn't matter if they are both heels they have a blatant issue with one another based off their characters and they shouldn't like each other. A lot of times WWE ignores past or present difference wrestlers should have with each other just cause their both face or both heel. It drives me up a wall, but in this case they didn't ignore it. Anyways now that I got that out back to the topic at hand. . .

Eh. Not anymore. I used to say yes when I wanted the Real Americans to get pushed as a legit group but that never happened. Now it's Just Swagger VS Rusev. If they brought in someone else to back up Rusev then I would say yes but if not then no not really.

However someone early mentioned Hogan as a joke, and that got me thinking. Imagine if WWE got an old Russian legend to come support rusev, hell any anti-american legend. Then when the legend interferes and Swagger is on the ropes, BOOM! Hulkamania Runs Wild! His music would hit and the place would go apeshit! I know I would.

 

[Mudlup50]

I do like the thinking of a Hogan return, doubt it would happen but who knows xD someone said that Swagger is bad on the mic, while I agree...that's why he needs Zeb. I also think a push would help at this point xP just give him some time to get over with the crowd...maybe as a face for once. Zeb could talk about how America is the best country in the world being as the WWE typically tours the US!

 

[capnwillie]

It's bad enough that people can't seem to handle the Shield breaking up and want to throw any jobber they feel deserves a push into a Shield v2.0 but now this?!? Jack Swagger is FINALLY getting over and has a mouthpiece manager that keeps all the lisp jokes in check! Maybe I'm in the minority but I'm happy to see that WWE has figured out how to just let a faction run it's course and serve it's purpose and then END IT! Bottom line: All three members of the Shield are over. Cesaro is over. Swagger is getting over. Mission accomplished, now move forward.

 

[kadroan]

Just like the title asks should there be another member of The Real Americans? I think with Zeb as the mouth piece and if they plan on giving Swagger a push that another member or two would be helpful. If I was going to pick a new member I think Big E would be a good fit. Big E seemed like he had a push but all of a sudden it was taken away. I figured if he is lost in the shuffle why not pair him up with Swagger? Both are good wrestlers with power so if they teamed they would add some good depth to a tag team division that I believe has promise but is still currently lacking. What do you guys think?

I'd like Zeb to manage Big E.

However, I wouldn't have them tag together.

Swagger's stay in a tag team the few years, tagging with Dolph and Cesaro.

I'd like to see how he'd do on his own again.

Big E could be Swagger's ally though. I'm not really a fan of Big E on the mic

 

[THTRobtaylor]

This will not go as you are all thinking.

I can see Zeb being "taken out" by Rusev in some way, beaten badly on the go home before their first match, probably at RAW which Swagger loses horribly (think Rocky 3 and Micky dying) Zeb is offscreen "recovering" and Swaggger sets up a Summerslam rematch, perhaps losing some more matches in the build so people think he's bitten off more than he can chew...


Summerslam comes and Swagger comes to the ring... as Lana and Rusev crow and run down Swagger, Zeb appears on the screen and says something like "I can't be there thanks to you, but I'd never leave Jack Swagger without a Real American in his corner a match where America's honor is on the line!"... Cue the music and Hulk Hogan steps in to Zeb's role on the night to help Swagger shock Rusev. It then of course sets up for Zeb to remain heel when he returns as he doesn't like that Hogan has "taken over".

 

[Softcore Holly]

As of now, not necessary. This is easily the best feud Rusev has so far(low bar I know) and will probably be the best Swagger gets for a long time, so tossing another guy into the mix isn't needed or wanted right now.

Some huge ifs here, but if Swagger can stay over, if his face turn suddenly brings in a big boost in his merch sales,(which might be hard since he literally has nothing available at the WWEshop. XD) and if backstage is still willing to push him as at least a popular face-midcarder similar to Hacksaw Jim Duggan, then he would be successful enough that a new member would never be necessary. Of course we can say the exact same time if they just dump him back to his jobber status after his expected squash to Rusev.

Of course a new member could be useful. A new partner to try to "avenge" Jack's loss would be a easy way to give Rusev his next squash, I mean opponent. And after that they can go back to the tag division which could use the help. As for who, well the choices of guys that aren't doing anything and/or needs a gimmick change are endless, even if you narrow it down to the ones that need Zeb to speak for them.