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Should Brock Lesnar be the Next CM Punk?

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I've been meaning to post this thread for some time now, so here goes. With CM Punk joining the UFC ranks, naturally, many have been comparing him to Brock Lesnar. Especially non-wrestling fans. They wonder if Punk is trying to follow the footsteps of Brock, and if Brock in any way inspired him to go from Pro Wrestling to the UFC. But what I submit to you wrestling fans, is that it is not CM Punk who is following after Brock Lesnar's footsteps, but it is Brock who SHOULD follow after Punk's.

Allow me to explain. A few years back, in one of the best storylines in modern history, CM Punk won the WWE Championship even though his contract was going to expire. It made his championship victory over Cena all the more historic...how this wrestler with an expired contract could be the champion. It added to the build-up more than arguably any title match in the years before or since. Now, although it is not official, the general expectation is that Brock Lesnar will be going back to the UFC. If you're the WWE, why not take advantage of this and pull a CM Punk storyline?

Why not have Heyman and Brock say that Brock IS going back to the UFC, and that Brock is bored with the lack of competition in the WWE. He has conquered everything else, so now he wants to the first person in history to hold the UFC Heavyweight Championship and the WWE World Heavyweight Championship AT THE SAME TIME. And after his contract expires after Wrestlemania, says Paul, that is exactly what Brock will do.

Now, what happens next is up to the WWE. They could have Brock lose clean, they could have Heyman screw Brock because as Heyman would later put it, Where would Brock in the UFC leave him? I think that what this WOULD do is provide more suspense to the title match, because the way it is now, pretty much everybody under the sun expects Reigns to win the title at Mania. If you have Brock follow Punk's storyline footsteps, at least we have a precedent where someone whose contract was ending actually DID win and leave with the strap. This CM Punk precedent being applied to the Brock/Reigns buildup would give some desperately needed suspense to the outcome of the match, and also add to the hype in general. And IF Brock actually does stay in the WWE, that makes the storyline all the more logical, the same way it was with Punk....because then you have the option of keeping the strap on Brock and having Reigns wait until his status as the #1 guy is being met with less traction from the overall fanbase.

Whenever you as the WWE have the option to use the Internet and dirtsheets to your advantage, why not do it? If everybody expects Brock to leave, whether or not it's true, why not make a storyline out of it? And in doing so, make the main event a lot more interesting and at least somewhat more unpredicatable?

What are your thoughts? Could this work? And should they go this route? I vote a thunderous YES!
 
Eh, I don't know. If Lesnar is to do this, he needs to do it by himself, without Heyman, and I can't see Lesnar delivering the way Punk did.

Lesnar was and is on top, he has no real reason to complain. Punk actually had some legit reasons, because he wasn't treated fairly. Punk got all this mainstream attention and exploded into mega star, because his storyline had a real life reach.
 
This is great. The mainstream press would be huge. I am pissed that this never crossed my mind. It plays in to Reigns comments about WWE feeding his family. Reig s could be seen as the savior to keep the belt where it belongs. The big question would be whether or not Lesnar would be willing to play along. It is a huge heel move and I'm not sure if Lesnar is going out as a bad guy. He has been booked so strong since WM, he had this feud with Rollins, and he seems to be pretty loved and respected by live crowds right now.

Cool idea.
 
I'm pretty sure that after his contract ends with the WWE that means he is no longer the WWE champion. And if he high tails it with the belt, then they can run along behind him and try to get it back, or just make another one. I like the try to run him down and get it part. That alone could replace HHH's promo's each week.

Also the way Dana White feels about the WWE, would he want Lesnar being the UFC champion and the WWE champion? Don't know how well that would go over.
 
If everyone is preety much sure Reigns will win the title because Brock's contract is up after Wrestlemain, I don't see how him saying he will take the title with him would make things any different what so ever.

He is still leaving, so you would expect Reigns to win.
 
So what happens when dana white hits twitter the next day (after said heyman promo) and says "Brock lesnar has not signed anything with UFC at this time?"
 
If everyone is preety much sure Reigns will win the title because Brock's contract is up after Wrestlemain, I don't see how him saying he will take the title with him would make things any different what so ever.

Brock is still leaving, so we would expect Reigns to win.

That last sentence is the one reason I can see Brock keeping the title......simply because we would expect him to lose it since he's leaving. Sometimes it's good for WWE to cross things up.....unpredictability can be a good thing.

Personally, I don't know why we'd want to see Brock's "legacy" honored; he was a paid mercenary who barely had anything to do with WWE during his time here. Sure, his name was constantly mentioned on TV, but the amount of time he had to put in was miniscule. What he did, he did very well, obviously.

I don't know how to compare CM Punk's WWE-UFC connection to that of Brock Lesnar. Mercenary or not, Brock came in and did what he was supposed to do. Punk's dissatisfaction with everything concerning his WWE tenure has been well-debated in pro wrestling circles. As it is, who knows if we'll ever actually see Punk in MMA competition?

Still, if the company insists on honoring Brock (perhaps in the hope he can be lured back again someday?) let him retain his title at WM31 and leave with the belt.

Then, the Authority can find an administrative way to strip him of the title after he's gone.

Mission accomplished, I suppose.
 
@BestWrestlingOptions – He wouldn’t be complaining at all. He would have no grievance. It would just be a matter of him wanting to conquer something else. That something else being the goal of being the first ever WWE and UFC Champion at the same time.

@GeorgeSteele’s Barber – Thanks!

@Unbolievablejeff: “If everyone is preety much sure Reigns will win the title because Brock's contract is up after Wrestlemain, I don't see how him saying he will take the title with him would make things any different what so ever."

That’s why the key word is PRECEDENT. If Punk could do it, then why can’t Brock? Without using this precedent, then no one would expect Brock to have a chance. But if you have Brock use the same storyline as Punk did, then if Punk could leave with the strap, why not Brock? Plus, that would make people wonder more if the WWE/Brock are bluffing. Why would they do this storyline if he really is leaving? This would bring many more questions inside and outside of the match, which brings much more hype and general interest.

@DravenFilth: I see your point but would it be far-fetched for people to simply not believe Dana? To simply think that Dana is trying to keep it a secret? And even if they do believe Dana, who is to say that Brock isn’t PLANNING on going to the UFC? Just because Dana doesn’t know about it yet doesn’t taint anything Brock and Paul would be claiming in their promos. They would be claiming INTENT. Nowhere in their claims would they be saying he is already inked with the UFC.
 
The lack of responses regarding this idea is further proof of how great it is. It makes so much sense and the Punk precedent allows it to sit in the psyche of the conspiracy theorist wrestling fan. You could even take things a step further and play the Hogan/Andre card by spreading rumors that "there are some backstage officials questioning whether Brock is going to do the job for Reigns".

This would Reigns out so much. It takes the focus off of him and just let's him be the hero Vince wants him to be.

I wish others would show support for this. I'm so disinterested in Mania right now. I know it is still early but this is the first idea that has really gotten me excited. Heyman could absolutely pull it off. The dirt sheets have already got the ball rolling. Brock doesn't even need to mention UFC. He can just state that he is done with pro wrestling. The money is not enough so he will fulfill his final commitment and leave with the title.

Brock threatening to leave with the title could even give reason to get The Authority out of power. I love this idea. Great job OP. I'm going to continue to obsess over it.
 
The lack of responses regarding this idea is further proof of how great it is. It makes so much sense and the Punk precedent allows it to sit in the psyche of the conspiracy theorist wrestling fan. You could even take things a step further and play the Hogan/Andre card by spreading rumors that "there are some backstage officials questioning whether Brock is going to do the job for Reigns".

This would Reigns out so much. It takes the focus off of him and just let's him be the hero Vince wants him to be.

I wish others would show support for this. I'm so disinterested in Mania right now. I know it is still early but this is the first idea that has really gotten me excited. Heyman could absolutely pull it off. The dirt sheets have already got the ball rolling. Brock doesn't even need to mention UFC. He can just state that he is done with pro wrestling. The money is not enough so he will fulfill his final commitment and leave with the title.

Brock threatening to leave with the title could even give reason to get The Authority out of power. I love this idea. Great job OP. I'm going to continue to obsess over it.

Thank you, kind sir! You are absolutely right about it taking attention off of Reigns. That's another added bonus to the idea. You are also right in your previous post about how much mainstream press this storyline would draw in, which would do big business for the WWE and the Network leading to Mania. There is still plenty of time for them to run with this idea, but as great as it may be, unfortunately it most likely won't happen. But I see no reason why it wouldn't be a smashing success if they did do it. And you're right, technically they don't even have to mention the UFC, Brock could just say "I'm done with Pro Wrestling." I think the UFC angle would be better, but it is not 100% necessary. Him being done with pro wrestling and showing such disinterest even though he is the champion would be a great contrast to Reigns indeed, who is this second-generation wrestler with all this family lineage who was born into the business and who lives the business. It would be a great sort of coming of age story to save the title from this arrogant beast who is on his way out.
 
The Summer of Punk belt deal only works with Punk, and it's been done twice. Brock has battled and won the UFC belt so why does Dana need the guy to show up with a belt from a non-legit sport? I think Brock retaining and leaving with the belt is an excellent idea but no reason to show up at UFC with it because most of those fans don't hold wrestling in high esteem for it to matter and I doubt most young kids watch MMA. He can throw it off a bridge or get a camp fire going at his house and throw the belt on it but Reigns has been set up forever to be the WWE 's next megastar so he'll probably win.
 
The Summer of Punk belt deal only works with Punk, and it's been done twice. Brock has battled and won the UFC belt so why does Dana need the guy to show up with a belt from a non-legit sport? I think Brock retaining and leaving with the belt is an excellent idea but no reason to show up at UFC with it because most of those fans don't hold wrestling in high esteem for it to matter and I doubt most young kids watch MMA. He can throw it off a bridge or get a camp fire going at his house and throw the belt on it but Reigns has been set up forever to be the WWE 's next megastar so he'll probably win.

Him threatening to do it does not mean he will actually do it. I am not stating that Brock should actually show up in the UFC with the WWE Championship. I am stating that he should SAY he will do that in order to better hype and build suspense to the Wrestlemania main event.

I don't see why it would only work with Punk. I think what this would do is take the Punk idea to a whole other level.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority here but I think thats a horrible idea, For Brock to say on WWE TV that he's leaving for UFC due to lack of worthy competion in the WWE? Doesn't say much for the whole WWE roster except for the one to beat him Roman Reigns it kind of just buries the whole company, The WWE if Brock wins or loses would still come across as second rate to UFC, If the WWE themselves write and think UFC is better then I guess all the viewers will also think this. So I personally can't see any positive outcome on this other than putting the UFC over on their own WWE show.
 
Maybe I'm in the minority here but I think thats a horrible idea, For Brock to say on WWE TV that he's leaving for UFC due to lack of worthy competion in the WWE? Doesn't say much for the whole WWE roster except for the one to beat him Roman Reigns it kind of just buries the whole company, The WWE if Brock wins or loses would still come across as second rate to UFC, If the WWE themselves write and think UFC is better then I guess all the viewers will also think this. So I personally can't see any positive outcome on this other than putting the UFC over on their own WWE show.

I disagree. Brock saying it doesn't make it gospel. He is a heel. Heyman is a heel. Him saying there is lack of competition is like saying nobody is in his league, which has been said in so many words for months now. Him saying there is no competition does not actually mean there is no competition.

It's not putting the UFC over because it is already well-documented both on air and off air that Brock is a former UFC Champion. That is one of the things he has conquered. So now he wants to hold both at the same time. The WWE would not be writing that UFC is better... The Brock character would be...and even that could be argued because really he just wants to hold both titles. He wouldn't outright say that the UFC is better.

But, of course, no idea will be liked by everyone, but I personally don't think any argument can budge me on its potential.
 
I've been meaning to post this thread for some time now, so here goes. With CM Punk joining the UFC ranks, naturally, many have been comparing him to Brock Lesnar. Especially non-wrestling fans. They wonder if Punk is trying to follow the footsteps of Brock, and if Brock in any way inspired him to go from Pro Wrestling to the UFC. But what I submit to you wrestling fans, is that it is not CM Punk who is following after Brock Lesnar's footsteps, but it is Brock who SHOULD follow after Punk's.

Allow me to explain. A few years back, in one of the best storylines in modern history, CM Punk won the WWE Championship even though his contract was going to expire. It made his championship victory over Cena all the more historic...how this wrestler with an expired contract could be the champion. It added to the build-up more than arguably any title match in the years before or since. Now, although it is not official, the general expectation is that Brock Lesnar will be going back to the UFC. If you're the WWE, why not take advantage of this and pull a CM Punk storyline?

Why not have Heyman and Brock say that Brock IS going back to the UFC, and that Brock is bored with the lack of competition in the WWE. He has conquered everything else, so now he wants to the first person in history to hold the UFC Heavyweight Championship and the WWE World Heavyweight Championship AT THE SAME TIME. And after his contract expires after Wrestlemania, says Paul, that is exactly what Brock will do.

Now, what happens next is up to the WWE. They could have Brock lose clean, they could have Heyman screw Brock because as Heyman would later put it, Where would Brock in the UFC leave him? I think that what this WOULD do is provide more suspense to the title match, because the way it is now, pretty much everybody under the sun expects Reigns to win the title at Mania. If you have Brock follow Punk's storyline footsteps, at least we have a precedent where someone whose contract was ending actually DID win and leave with the strap. This CM Punk precedent being applied to the Brock/Reigns buildup would give some desperately needed suspense to the outcome of the match, and also add to the hype in general. And IF Brock actually does stay in the WWE, that makes the storyline all the more logical, the same way it was with Punk....because then you have the option of keeping the strap on Brock and having Reigns wait until his status as the #1 guy is being met with less traction from the overall fanbase.

Whenever you as the WWE have the option to use the Internet and dirtsheets to your advantage, why not do it? If everybody expects Brock to leave, whether or not it's true, why not make a storyline out of it? And in doing so, make the main event a lot more interesting and at least somewhat more unpredicatable?

What are your thoughts? Could this work? And should they go this route? I vote a thunderous YES!

That would be a great idea! It definitely would throw off the dirt sheets if Brock was to win. That's how it should be. Last thing WWE needs is a predictable WrestleMania main event involving these two.
 
Brock should do something unexpected like announce he is going to become an Olympic wrestler and win a gold medal.

Oh wait... Does Olympic wrestling even exist anymore? LOL I remember a couple years ago they cancelled it because of low ratings.... yet they kept garbage things like "Ribbon Twirling".... LMAO
 

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