Sheamus Is Number 3

mr_dna

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Your hear about Cena Being No 1 & Punk as No 2 which is ortons old spot so you would think that makes orton No 3 but before Orton got his suspension i would say Sheamus was getting as good of if not better pops then Orton .

So lets look at this and why Sheamus i consider Sheamus No3.

1. He Has A Great look & Style
2. His Matchs always look good & Never looks weak no matter who he faces
3. Clean Welness Record Good backstage Rep
4. He is Irish which gets him over well outside of the states
5. Like i said He gets big pops
6. Works well as a Heel Or Face
7. With work he could become a company No 2

Ortons flame is starting to go out maybe a heel push might help him get some of his momentum but we need to face it orton is a liability now and on borrowed time.

Bring orton back Hell get him to put over Sheamus and other then get rid or put to the mid card
 
WWE is currently trying to get Sheamus over but even they feel he isn't quite there yet. Personally, I really don't like Sheamus anymore. He was good as a heel, but as a face he is pretty boring. Still not as boring as Alberto Del Rio. I think Sheamus should turn into a tweener. Then he can feud with faces and heels and become a 'badass' again. He has a good look and his theme is pretty good. Like i said the only thing I would really change, would be his atitude. That's just my opinion though.
 
Whatever.......Sheamus is bland, he is overpushed, his matches are always boring, he is always made to look good just like Cena, he is the worst Royal Rumble winner of all time,etc.
 
WWE is currently trying to get Sheamus over but even they feel he isn't quite there yet. Personally, I really don't like Sheamus anymore. He was good as a heel, but as a face he is pretty boring. Still not as boring as Alberto Del Rio. I think Sheamus should turn into a tweener. Then he can feud with faces and heels and become a 'badass' again. He has a good look and his theme is pretty good. Like i said the only thing I would really change, would be his atitude. That's just my opinion though.

Why do people always talk about tweeners feuding with heels and faces... nobody does that. I think the only way you can turn Sheamus into a badass is if you make him shut up, because at the minute all of his promos are really corny and usually end up with him talking crap leading up to him saying the word "ARSE" and smiling.

I used to like him, when he was a heel and even at the beginning of his face turn turn but I'm getting incredibly bored of him, but I agree that with the audience the WWE targets, Sheamus could definately become no. 3 man.
 
I guess he worked better as heel. Actually wwe is running out of face. Except Punk and Cena there is no one can carry the show single handed. So they are trying to push Sheamus/Brayan...But i guess DB deserve the push a long ahead. Pushing sheamus as a face will lead to nowhere because he is not much entertaining..a boring champion...
 
I don’t mind seeing Sheamus as#3. He does have the look and his style of wrestling isn’t bad. It’s more of a brawl style, I would like to see more technical wrestling from him. Hell I would like to see more technical wrestling from most of the superstars. For instance, Punk shouldn’t be doing a 7sec vertical suplex, people like Sheamus and Cena should be doing it and a hell of a lot longer. I think every big guy like a cena, sheamus, jackson, mason should pull out some Davey Boy Smith tapes. Hell even steiner from back in the when it was him and his brother. I thought stiener was great back in the day.

I understand people don’t like him as a face; it seems now days we are more into heels and less into faces. Cena is a great example we all wanted him to turn. We liked Orton better as a heel. Anyway I wouldn’t mind having more neutral superstars. Like Austin, undertaker, Kane. where it didn’t matter if the other person was a face or a heel, everyone was fair game.
 
Whatever.......Sheamus is bland, he is overpushed, his matches are always boring, he is always made to look good just like Cena, he is the worst Royal Rumble winner of all time,etc.

His match with daniel bryan was great, it was probably the best match sheamus ever had, but to be fair daniel bryan could wrestle a broom and make it look great.
 
Avoiding the pun as much as I can, Sheamus is vanilla. Not just vanilla, he's diet vanilla-light.

The guy just never has popped, for me. He's pretty well gone his whole career with two traits to his gimmick: "Hi, I once upset Cena in a stupid tables match because by buddy HHH said it would be a cool idea and also, I'm very, very white."

That's his character, so what about that sounds cool or appealing? CM Punk became the #2 (arguably) last year whenever he came up with the, "Pipe Bomb," gimmick, and it worked...until WWE watered it down and turned him into just another straight laced babyface. This is basically what Sheamus needs. He just needs some kind of facet to his personality that helps him stand out. He's getting over with the booking, but not with his character. Just because you keep getting booked to win doesn't mean you're all that over. His character is lame, and he does nothing to stand out. Of course, this is the WWE's biggest flaw, nowadays with their writing.

Give Sheamus something that we can identify him with other than his skin color, and I think he'd be a lot better. As for now, I really don't care about him or for him, and I am already awaiting to see who takes the belt off of him.
 
I think the smartest thing WWE has done with Sheamus recently is put him in matches with good oponents like d.bryan and dolph ziggler among others. It would be interesting to see if he can maintain that level of quality matches with someone not so skilled like Big show for example which looks like a possibility heading forward. As far as Orton goes i think he should come strait into a fued with sheamus when he returns so that he can keep having good matches and in the process one of the them could possibly turn heel which would mean the fued would probably be extended over a lengthy period of time. I agree that Sheamus' promos are not that great but he is solid once the match starts when he is with the right oponent likei mentioned earlier.
 
I'm ok with Sheamus as number 3 in the melting pot of superstars. However I feel that in the past year, he has been made into something that he should have never become.

When Sheamus first debuted and got his superfast push to the top, I was behind it 100%. (Anyone who has ever bashed the stagnant nature of the WWE in regards to John Cena being the unstoppable force, should read this) At the time of Sheamus' push, we finally got what we were all bitching about not having for years: Someone to believably be Cena's equal. Sheamus was a badass who had "tough-titty" attitude, and a look (muscles, height, and size) that rivaled Cena's. He was also booked as such. He conquered just about everything he set out to do and made it clear that there was a new guy in town who was every bit as powerful and dominating as John Cena.

Then he got beat at Wrestlemania by Triple H. I'll never understand why they went this route. Besides hearing HHH's theme and see him do his entrance, I really don't have the desire to see him in a role other than playing a loosely based version of his actual upper-management self or putting over newer guys who fit the mold like Sheamus. Although what's important here is that Sheamus is further proof that Creative can actually manufacture top stars. Considering the idea of a heel having the total package in look, fluidity in the ring, and gimmick, Sheamus was one of the last ones to truly have it all. They screwed up a great thing. Randy Orton was proof that you could still be a badass, be booked to win, and turn face. In my opinion, they really needed to go this route with Sheamus.

With cheesifying his gimmick by having him tell unfunny fictional stories about his family back home, having him smile a lot, having him poke fun at himself about being very pale, embracing his whiteness (with the signature move White Noise and the nickname The Great White - yes I know it's referring to the animal but its still obviously also a play on his skin tone) and all of that jazz, has really bastardized his gimmick and turned him into something as goofy as Cena when I believe they should have stuck with the contrasting differences.

If they take out the "heart of gold" aspects they've unnecessarily added, and they'll be heading back in the right direction.
 
Whatever.......Sheamus is bland, he is overpushed, his matches are always boring, he is always made to look good just like Cena, he is the worst Royal Rumble winner of all time,etc.

I agree with everything you said here. Sheamus is a much less interesting version of a SuperCenaFace.

Why is it when WWE develops a good heel or someone just over with the crowd they have to turn them into this likable douchebag a la Sheamus and CM Punk? Next you'll see it with Daniel Bryan.

And what are we left with? NO great heels arguably outside of Daniel Bryan. It even looks like they might be hinting at turning Ziggler face.

Seriously, there are no top heels in the company. Big Show is a joke. Otunga is a jobber. Mark Henry when healthy is still a midcarder imo.

The WWE "Universe" needs Wade Barrett more than ever now.
 
Two things are hurting Sheamus right now. The first is the way he goes about getting his pops and cheers as a face. He is being TOO smiley and pandering to the audience all the time. It's becoming John Cena-esque and most people over the age of 12 aren't buying it. The second thing that really hurt him was the 18 second victory he had at WM28. Whether he deserved to win the belt or not, burying a wrestler the caliber of Daniel Bryan was reminiscent of the Montreal Screwjob to a lot of people. It made virtually EVERYONE start to cheer for him. The logical scapegoat was Sheamus because he was the one to make the pinfall.

I don't know that all of the criticism against Sheamus is warranted, but I certainly understand where it is coming from. I don't know that I would have him drop the belt to Randy Orton upon his return from suspension, but I agree that something needs to be done on the front of the WHC. Personally, what I would have loved to see was Daniel Bryan win back the title from Sheamus at Extreme Rules in the 2/3 falls match, then setup another match with CM Punk for sometime around Summerslam to unify both World titles.
 
I think Sheamus should turn into a tweener. Then he can feud with faces and heels and become a 'badass' again.
I keep reading this and i have no idea what it means :s, he kick's referee's in the head, he loses his temper and get's DQ'd. How would you make him a tweener? just by having him fued with faces? this isn't a slam, I am really interested in what you would have him do.

Now onto the main point, hell yes he is number three and he should be proud of it. He's got the superman build, strength and a stupid amount of agility for a man of 270. I actually love his promos about his uncle and his family, it's something different and it make's me laugh. His match with D-bry was out of this world, and before the IWC screams that was all Daniel, take a look at him v big show. Sheamus is a good worker, he get's me interested in his matches, and can put on good matches with all kinds of wrestlers.
 
Your hear about Cena Being No 1 & Punk as No 2 which is ortons old spot so you would think that makes orton No 3 but before Orton got his suspension i would say Sheamus was getting as good of if not better pops then Orton .

So lets look at this and why Sheamus i consider Sheamus No3.

1. He Has A Great look & Style
2. His Matchs always look good & Never looks weak no matter who he faces
3. Clean Welness Record Good backstage Rep
4. He is Irish which gets him over well outside of the states
5. Like i said He gets big pops
6. Works well as a Heel Or Face
7. With work he could become a company No 2

Ortons flame is starting to go out maybe a heel push might help him get some of his momentum but we need to face it orton is a liability now and on borrowed time.

Bring orton back Hell get him to put over Sheamus and other then get rid or put to the mid card

Orton's flame is going no where. The WWE is just trying out other superstars as the face of Smackdown to see what they've got. They've tried Daniel Bryan, Sheamus, Dolph Ziggler, etc. They've just been trying to give other superstars the chance to show what they've got and see if they can carry the brand, and unfortunately, none of them carry it like Randy Orton does, so Orton will be going back to the top. I can almost guarantee you Randy Orton will be fighting Sheamus at the next PPV and Orton will win the World's Heavyweight Championship for the 10th time and he will hold the title for quite some time.

There's no denying it that right now there is no other superstar on the Smackdown roster that gets the fans on their feet like Randy Orton does. As soon as he walks through that curtain, forget about talking, because it's just not possible with how electric the crowd gets.
 
I can almost guarantee you Randy Orton will be fighting Sheamus at the next PPV and Orton will win the World's Heavyweight Championship for the 10th time and he will hold the title for quite some time.

I'll take that bet. I'd offer up my dignity as the stakes - such is my faith in Sheamus - but I sacrificed that years ago. How unfortunate!

A pattern is starting to emerge; I'm defending the same people over and over. Every week, I'll churn out a post in defence of Christian or Mysterio or Orton or, indeed, Sheamus. My work is never done. So, here we go again.

I like Sheamus. Sheamus is a good wrestler. Sheamus is a good world champion. Sheamus has had good matches. Sheamus has cut good promos. Sheamus has even developed his character somewhat. Sheamus is quite clearly over. Sheamus' new t-shirt - the one which doesn't look like a Rorschach test - is pretty decent. Sheamus looks good when he's all hot and sweaty. Leave Sheamus alone - he's quality, he's successful, he's a workhorse and it doesn't seem as if he's going anywhere. Sheamus!

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Your hear about Cena Being No 1 & Punk as No 2 which is ortons old spot so you would think that makes orton No 3 but before Orton got his suspension i would say Sheamus was getting as good of if not better pops then Orton .

So lets look at this and why Sheamus i consider Sheamus No3.

1. He Has A Great look & Style
2. His Matchs always look good & Never looks weak no matter who he faces
3. Clean Welness Record Good backstage Rep
4. He is Irish which gets him over well outside of the states
5. Like i said He gets big pops
6. Works well as a Heel Or Face
7. With work he could become a company No 2

Ortons flame is starting to go out maybe a heel push might help him get some of his momentum but we need to face it orton is a liability now and on borrowed time.

Bring orton back Hell get him to put over Sheamus and other then get rid or put to the mid card

I agree with you. I think Sheamus should feud with Orton and Orton put over Sheamus, then Orton make a heel change and be one of the must needed heels in the WWE. What heels are in the title picture? Daniel Bryan? Kane? Alberto Del Rio? They need Orton in that lineup.

I think Sheamus has a great style of wrestling. He reminds me in the ring of Stone Cold Steve Austin. He's not a very good grappler, but very resilient and can hit his finisher at any time.

I remember when Sheamus first got to the WWE Cena, Orton and Triple H came up to Vince and said he was easy to work with and they thought he'd be a good star to push and they were exactly right.
 
Sheamus looks good when he's all hot and sweaty.
:wtf:

No way is Sheamus getting pops as big as Orton. Say what you want about Orton but he get's one of the biggest pops of any wwe star and if you took out all the boos would sound louder the Cena's. I never hear any Boo's when Orton comes out kind of like Punk where both men and Women love him. I like Sheamus I think his great white gimmick is as good as any gimmick but He's not at Orton's level at least not yet.
 

You want to deny it? I'll post pictures from my collection. I have an extensive library of pictures of hot and sweaty men. Don't test me, lest you be consumed by a flood of male hotness.

No way is Sheamus getting pops as big as Orton.

Randy Orton is great - he's fantastic. I don't fawn over him weekly for no reason. I didn't give him the Sammy for Best Wrestler of the Year on a whim. Well, I did, but it's still an ultra-prestigious award, OK? That said, I'm not hearing these earth-shattering responses for him. He's over - I've no doubt about that - and maybe (probably) more so than Sheamus, but not on "another level".
 
Sheamus is good at what he does. His matches are entertaining and his he wrestles exactly like a man his size should. He has proven to be a tough champ. Yes, his promos are not the best but come on, everyone has room for improvement.

He has a future and a bright one for that matter.
 
Sorry but he is nowhere near the level of cena or punk. You proclamin him as the number 3 simply by the process of elimination. He is considered number three because the wwe at this point have little to no "Stars" in their roster other than cena and punk (hhh, y2j, lesnar are part timers so dont count them).

Back then you look at: Austin, Rock, HHH, Taker, Angle, Foley, Y2j etc....... THIS IS THE PECKING ORDER.

Now you look at: Cena, Punk,........Sheamus #3??. I see the huge gap in star power thats for sure.

Sheamus at least to me is just a midcarder with the world title on his waist.
 

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