Seth Rollins Should Use the Phoenix Splash as his Finisher?

[ASKane]

Whether or not the rumours on the Curb Stomps ban are true I think Seth should start to use the Phoenix Splash on a more regular basis and be the move he gets the win with. Neville's Red Arrow gets alot of talk because of how awesome it is but the Phoenix Splash is just as cool. Also the DDT Facebuster looks just awful so unless he is gonna use finisher stealing as his gimmick I think his new finisher should become the Phoenix Splash

Your thoughts on the move? Whether it should be the finisher? Any other suggestions on the finisher?

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

No. It's not as sudden.

I like using the Phoenix Splash only in big matches. Too many guys abuse their finishers and big moves to the point where you don't buy any false finishes.

 

[Navi]

Yea he should only use it in big matches, otherwise it loses it's effect. The crowd went nuts when they saw him do it the first time.

I'm still waiting for Cesaro to bust out the UFO, the crowd would go wild if they saw that, but he hardly ever uses it. I don't think he's used it once in the WWE, but it's awesome to see.

 

[Soulblazed]

Yea he should only use it in big matches, otherwise it loses it's effect. The crowd went nuts when they saw him do it the first time.

I'm still waiting for Cesaro to bust out the UFO, the crowd would go wild if they saw that, but he hardly ever uses it. I don't think he's used it once in the WWE, but it's awesome to see.

I agree with you on both points here, Navi.

I'd love to see Cesaro use the UFO in WWE..It's long overdue he pulled it off at least once.

Rollins shouldn't use the Phoenix Splash as a finisher, it should only be used once in awhile at Summerslam, the Survivor Series, Wrestlemania, etc

As far as Rollins using other moves for his finisher-

He could always use God's Last Gift again...I don't know why no-one here ever brings that move up..When he was wrestling in the indies as Tyler Black, I always thought that he hit that move really convincingly..Though it's obviously not gonna be used against people physically bigger than The Rock/Helmsley, it'd be a good move for hitting on people such as Ziggler, Cena, etc


Fast forward to 1:20 to see God's Last Gift https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_mcEJUT9L0

He could also start using the Sleeper with the bodyscissors as a finisher..Ziggler hasn't used that move since Wrestlemania 31 and rarely uses that move as it is..Rollins "putting an opponent to sleep" would be a good surprise and add another move to his arsenal.

 

[MC_Live]

The Phoenix splash is really cool. And I agree that he needs a better finisher than that face buster thing. But until he turns face, he shouldn't use the Phoenix Splash on a regular basis. Cool high fly moves get pops and cheers. I don't like when heels do stuff like that, because they're supposed to get boo'd. So until Seth becomes a face, he needs a new finish that isn' the Phoenix splash.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

No, he's a heel and the Phoenix Splash is so spectacular that he'd be getting a huge face pop every time he landed it, which isn't what WWE wants.

Also, its an incredibly dangerous move so it's best being saved for situations where he is "pulling out all the stops" which are worthy of taking that risk- like a WrestleMania or SummerSlam.

I'm not a huge fan of this new "facebuster DDT-type thing" he used as his finisher recently, "God's Last Gift" seems a perfectly safe, believable finishing move, I don't know why he's not decided to start using that again.

 

[MCMG]

It is such an amazing move that it would get a massive reaction from the crowd. I can't imagine that is the best thing for the top heel in the company where people want to see your finish.

Also, it is too spectacular to be used each week. It should be done only on special occasions because then it just becomes another move. Rollins doesn't need it and there are plenty of other moves he could use.

 

[DCLXVI]

As others have other pointed out - it's a Face move, would get a a Face pop, and should be reserved for special occasions. Remember, Rollins was known as the "aerial specialist" in The Shield and was all over the place, diving out of the ring and doing as many flips and high spots as he could get in... and now he plays the cowardly, conniving Heel role to a tee, from psychology to move set - which is a big feat considering that he was known as a high flier.

I am hoping the Facebuster/DDT thing is temporary. For one thing it looks way too deliberate. For another too many guys are using DDT variants now. I understand why they do - you can do them on virtually any opponent... but c'mon. From what I've seen the Seth Rollins new finish is very similar to Stardust's Dark Matter but he falls forward with it. Dolph Ziggler uses that big elevated DDT as a signature now. Ambrose is also using that shitty looking double arm DDT. What is a shame here is that the Curb Stomp was very believable in terms of putting guys out storyline wise like Orton and Ambrose and he could also potentially beat monsters like Brock Lesnar with it. I can't see him doing either with that DDT thing. It was also very unique and unpredictable.

I guess what I am seeing is something he delivers after the momentum of his opponent staggering towards him from the Turnbuckle Bomb - some kind of kick maybe. Could be something stationary like Tajiri's Buzzsaw Kick, or something running like Kenta's Shotgun Kick.

 

[OYDK]

The Phoenix Splash may look spectacular, but it doesn't seem like Rollins hits it very smoothly. Every time I've seen him attempt it (3 times... 4 times after watching Soulblazed's video) he's missed the splash and headbutted the ribs. It's a dangerous move when it's hit perfectly, it's downright reckless when it's hit wrong. Minimize the risk on Rollins and his opponent by only pulling it out a few times a year, if that. Used regularly, it's an accident waiting to happen.

He could always use God's Last Gift again...I don't know why no-one here ever brings that move up..When he was wrestling in the indies as Tyler Black, I always thought that he hit that move really convincingly..Though it's obviously not gonna be used against people physically bigger than The Rock/Helmsley, it'd be a good move for hitting on people such as Ziggler, Cena, etc

Wow that move was awesome. I briefly followed Black a while back, but I don't think I've ever seen him use that. On another thread, I said that I think a brainbuster would suit Rollins well, and that definitely fits the bill. Rollins is also a lot bigger nowadays so I wouldn't rule out him being able to hit it on the Lesnars/Cenas of the WWE.

 

[ASKane]

On another thread, I said that I think a brainbuster would suit Rollins well, and that definitely fits the bill. Rollins is also a lot bigger nowadays so I wouldn't rule out him being able to hit it on the Lesnars/Cenas of the WWE.

If the Curb Stomp is banned then I do see any chance that WWE will allow a Brainbuster, I dont think anyone on the main roster uses it and despite not watching NXT too much I also think no one there uses it so I would guess that along with a piledriver it will be on WWE's banned move list.

 

[DCLXVI]

Could be a "safe" Brainbuster. I feel like I've seen a few of those. Hell, Austin Aries does a great one. Koko b Ware used it as "The Ghostbuster" and it was more brutal than a lot of the Japanese ones. lol

 

[Soulblazed]

Triple Naitch & OHHYOUDIDNTKNOW, I'm glad that finally a couple people besides myself realize that God's Last Gift could be brought back and used as an alternate finisher for Rollins..As we've agreed on, it's a great move and can be hit on mostly anyone in the WWE convincingly, plus it's something a heel could use consistently, unlike the Phoenix Splash(much as I like that move).

OHHHYOUDIDNTKNOW, since you only saw bits and pieces of Rollins as Tyler Black, I suggest you Youtube his indy stuff from ROH, Japan, etc..It's damn good, especially when he was with Castagnoli(Cesaro).