I know many will not agree with this, and maybe it is just me hoping, but I could see this happening. Sheamus has made the statement that he will wait until after EC to decide which title he will wrestle for at Mania. I would love to see, and have a feeling we may see it, Sheamus winning at EC and becoming WHC, then announcing that he will compete for the WWE title at mania. It could turn the the Jericho/Punk match into a triple threat, and the outcome could be Sheamus walking away with that title as well, thus making him the second undisputed champion. I say this because Jericho keeps bringing up that he was the first one again, and also it would free up the wwe title, and Jericho and Punk could feud for the best in the world title for the next few months. This would also make the WWE championship available to others to compete for while that feud is ongoing. It would also make keep Sheamus in the title picture for a while, and if during that time he went heel again, perhaps even longer. I have always liked Sheamus, I know many love him now, but imo, I feel that he was at his best as a heel. Anyone else have a take on this?
Second Undisputed Champion?
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pharrison0scorpion
Occasional Pre-Show
err.....no. Sheamus can't win at EC, he's not competing for either championship. He's only making his decision at EC, he's not in either match. Which means this whole thread is pointless because it's not possible.
You may have something here actually. If R-Truth is injured then maybe his replacement will be announced on the night. You could have y2j talking to Sheamus earlier on at the elimination chamber ppv saying that Sheamus was lucky at Royal rumble and he only won because he didn't have to pin him.
Come WWE Championship time, pods are filled and miz is in the ring and sheamus' music hits.
Final 3 being: Y2J , Punk and Sheamus. Y2J could cheat to eliminate punk and then Jericho and Sheamus fight for another 5 + minutes. Jericho could go for the win only for punk to interfere and sheamus win.
That way you would still get Punk vs Jericho at Wrestlemania and then Sheamus Vs Randy Orton for WWE & WHC championship.
Come WWE Championship time, pods are filled and miz is in the ring and sheamus' music hits.
Final 3 being: Y2J , Punk and Sheamus. Y2J could cheat to eliminate punk and then Jericho and Sheamus fight for another 5 + minutes. Jericho could go for the win only for punk to interfere and sheamus win.
That way you would still get Punk vs Jericho at Wrestlemania and then Sheamus Vs Randy Orton for WWE & WHC championship.
King Patrick Star
K. O. T. R. 2007 - Team Undisputed
First, according to my records, Triple H was the second Undisputed Champion, Hollywood Hulk Hogan was the 3rd, The Undertaker was the 4th, The Rock was the 5th, and Brock Lesnar was the 6th and last Undisputed Champion, but I get what you are saying. Those who will say Punk was an Undisputed Champion, well thats a whole other topic. They may have used the word Undisputed, but they were referring to having both WWE Titles, and not one WWE Title and one WCW / World Title Anyway
I like this idea. Its not going to happen, but I like this idea a lot. The way I would have done it is if Sheamus replaced Mark Henry and won the Blue Chamber match. At the following Raw, is when I would have had the Celtic Champion challenge the WWE Champion. Im starting to think that the Titles wont be unified till WM XXX. Think about it. By that time, we may not have an Undertaker match. Were going to need something big.
I like this idea. Its not going to happen, but I like this idea a lot. The way I would have done it is if Sheamus replaced Mark Henry and won the Blue Chamber match. At the following Raw, is when I would have had the Celtic Champion challenge the WWE Champion. Im starting to think that the Titles wont be unified till WM XXX. Think about it. By that time, we may not have an Undertaker match. Were going to need something big.
I like the idea... but not with Sheamus. This would have been good for Punk or Jericho if they were in the rumble in the first case and won it in both case.
But I REALLY don't want to see Sheamus with any title, I just don't want that so I like the general idea, but not this year and not with the proposed wrestler.
But I REALLY don't want to see Sheamus with any title, I just don't want that so I like the general idea, but not this year and not with the proposed wrestler.
I dislike the idea because im am one of the few fans if the brand extension and the 2 world titles. Granted, i do not like the Hot Potato from the past, but the two world titles keep options open.
But, if they did do this again. I would want Randy to be champ and Cena to be champ. Hear me out. These two guys are the Rock/Austin of today. They may not have the star power or the characters, but they are the biggest in the business today. Now, after having them two champs for a while, have Chris Jericho do it again! Beat the 2 biggest stars in the same night to win the Undisputed Championship!
How awesome would that be?
But, if they did do this again. I would want Randy to be champ and Cena to be champ. Hear me out. These two guys are the Rock/Austin of today. They may not have the star power or the characters, but they are the biggest in the business today. Now, after having them two champs for a while, have Chris Jericho do it again! Beat the 2 biggest stars in the same night to win the Undisputed Championship!
How awesome would that be?
It may not have been clear in my post but I am also a fan of the brand and I want them to keep 2 distinct title, but I wouldn't be against one guy winning both and then having to defend both (not at the same time) titles separately.
I not only feel that the extension needs to stay but it needs to be reinforced. I don't want to see any wrestlers from Smackdown! on Raw. Put Cena on Smackdown! to help the so called B show and give us a reason to watch both shows. When Smackdown! is a rehash of Raw, there's no real reason to watch it.
according to what records smark, wiki? the ONLY two Undisputed Champions, legitimate Undisputed Champions were Chris Jericho and Triple H, as they were the ONLY ones to hold both the WWF and WCW titles, hence UNDISPUTED
The Perfect Max
I Am Jericho
He is right, really. The title was called the "Undisputed" WWE Championship until the brand extension, when Brock Lesnar was drafted to SmackDown, thus the World Heavyweight Championship was created for the Raw brand, with Triple H as the first champion.
Anyway, there should not really be another Undisputed WWE Champion as I think things in the past should stay in the past. It is something we can remember and Chris Jericho can always be remembered as the first of something historic.
If it were to be renewed, I would suggest that a new upcomer would hold the title. Maybe Sheamus. Or Dolph Ziggler. In fact, Ziggler may be the better choice to back up Ziggler's "Show Off" gimmick. That is an oppertunity Ziggler, I think, would be delighted to take.
DeathClutch
HaRDcOrE ChAMpiOn
It's time for the Undisputed Championship to be brought back into the fold but not for Sheamus.. yet! He's over, way over actually but giving him the Undisputed Belt would be overload, aka shoving him down our throats.
If anything WWE should be go down the route of an 8 man tournament where both belts are defended throughout for example in the opening round, semi's and finals so basically someone could come in and pretty much steal the championship for a swerve. Load the tournament up with top 8 guys in WWE for example Cena, Kane, Punk, Sheamus, Bryan, Orton, HHH and Jericho and for shits and giggles you could always have the first two Undisputed champs slog it out in the opening round, oh and do it in one night for true shock value.
If anything WWE should be go down the route of an 8 man tournament where both belts are defended throughout for example in the opening round, semi's and finals so basically someone could come in and pretty much steal the championship for a swerve. Load the tournament up with top 8 guys in WWE for example Cena, Kane, Punk, Sheamus, Bryan, Orton, HHH and Jericho and for shits and giggles you could always have the first two Undisputed champs slog it out in the opening round, oh and do it in one night for true shock value.
Why so hostile friend? Especially when you're the one who's wrong. As has been stated before, the championship was called the undisputed championship until Brock Lesnar "refused" to defend the title on both brands, thus causing the creation of the world heavyweight championship. The fact that they created a single belt to represent the title means nothing. It's actually a pretty silly argument on your part.
As for the idea, I don't think it will or should happen. Not this year anyway. I would rather see Sheamus take on Daniel Bryan in a match that got bumped from last year's card. And Punk vs Jericho should remain a singles match. It does stand to question who exactly will be replacing R-Truth, and Sheamus would make an interesting choice and tease the possibility of a title for title match at Wrestlemania, but I don't think it will happen. Of course stranger things have occured.
I'm not sure if I agree with this scenario. While I am not fully against unifying the two world titles, the thread starter's idea isn't the best that comes to mind. Sheamus will not be winning a world title at Elimination Chamber. That would make no sense. I can absolutely see him as a potential candidate to hold the Undisputed WWE Championship if it comes back, but he will not be the one to unify the titles. That honor should go to CM Punk or Daniel Bryan. Sheamus will likely challenge the World Heavyweight Champion (probably Daniel Bryan) and win at Wrestlemania.
Now if they did go the unification route, and assuming Punk retains the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania he can claim he truly is "the best in the world at what he does" as a parody of Jericho's promos. Then he can state his next goal is to take yet another thing from Jericho, being the Undisputed Champion. This sets up a unification feud with Sheamus, Bryan, or whoever is holding the World Heavyweight Championship. I'd unify the titles at Night of Champions, perhaps even in an Iron Man match, due to such a match making more sense to have at the show where every title is on the line. It doesn't seem like Wrestlemania would be the right place to do it. At least not this year when the card will already be full of other great matches. Summerslam could also be a good place to hold the match. They should save such a huge match for a show that needs an extra boost that unifying the two world titles would bring, if they decide to go that route.
Now if they did go the unification route, and assuming Punk retains the WWE Championship at Wrestlemania he can claim he truly is "the best in the world at what he does" as a parody of Jericho's promos. Then he can state his next goal is to take yet another thing from Jericho, being the Undisputed Champion. This sets up a unification feud with Sheamus, Bryan, or whoever is holding the World Heavyweight Championship. I'd unify the titles at Night of Champions, perhaps even in an Iron Man match, due to such a match making more sense to have at the show where every title is on the line. It doesn't seem like Wrestlemania would be the right place to do it. At least not this year when the card will already be full of other great matches. Summerslam could also be a good place to hold the match. They should save such a huge match for a show that needs an extra boost that unifying the two world titles would bring, if they decide to go that route.
MWRedskins
Mid-Card Championship Winner
ok, first off, we have had a Second Undisputed Champion, that was Triple H.
Now for this idea. i dont like it for many reasons, but my biggest reason which i will mention is that i like the two different champions. with one world champion, we have less main eventers and guys who deserve the title, dont get the title. if we didnt have two champions, then Punk would've not gotten three title runs, he would've had one or two runs as the top star, but having two champions means that we can get to see fresh top stars sometimes. i know many want to see one company, one champion, but i like the two champion deal.
Now for this idea. i dont like it for many reasons, but my biggest reason which i will mention is that i like the two different champions. with one world champion, we have less main eventers and guys who deserve the title, dont get the title. if we didnt have two champions, then Punk would've not gotten three title runs, he would've had one or two runs as the top star, but having two champions means that we can get to see fresh top stars sometimes. i know many want to see one company, one champion, but i like the two champion deal.
TheJujuMan
Dark Match Winner
My 1st choice would be Daniel Bryan. Pulling off some major upset in one match and cheating his way through another match to win it all. Then do what Jericho did and get REALLY arrogant.
My 2nd pick would be... The Miz. Look gang, Miz will NOT be in the dog house long. He missed a spot, and yes, it could have lead to something tragic. BUT the WWE has been behind him because he is out there in the public eye making a ton of appearances and his merchandise DOES sell. They aren't going to bury him like Kennedy, because Kennedy was a major whiner. Miz will take his lumps from HHH and pays his dues for what happened. But they obviously felt good enough about him a few weeks ago to give him 46 minutes in the Royal Rumble. This issue that happened will pass, and he'll get better for it. So The Miz could be a candidate for the Unified CHampion role.
Last person I would pick would be Wade Barrett. He is arrogant already, really strong on the stick. Who knows.
Peace Out!
Juju
My 2nd pick would be... The Miz. Look gang, Miz will NOT be in the dog house long. He missed a spot, and yes, it could have lead to something tragic. BUT the WWE has been behind him because he is out there in the public eye making a ton of appearances and his merchandise DOES sell. They aren't going to bury him like Kennedy, because Kennedy was a major whiner. Miz will take his lumps from HHH and pays his dues for what happened. But they obviously felt good enough about him a few weeks ago to give him 46 minutes in the Royal Rumble. This issue that happened will pass, and he'll get better for it. So The Miz could be a candidate for the Unified CHampion role.
Last person I would pick would be Wade Barrett. He is arrogant already, really strong on the stick. Who knows.
Peace Out!
Juju
Seamus will not be undisputed champion. He is over in a big way, but not like others, he is ready for an establishing world title run and the lack of depth on the roster makes more of a case than ever for ending the brand extension but in reality, I don't see the brand extension ending anytime soon
You're right about the history of the Undisputed Championship...but CM Punk was called the UNIFIED WWE Champion(because he unified the two versions of the WWE title), not Undisputed.
What the hell are you talking about, son? Were you even alive in 2001/2002 when all of this was talking place? You clearly weren't following wrestling if you were. Chris Jericho, Triple H, Hulk Hogan, Undertaker, The Rock, and Brock Lesnar - in that order - were the Undisputed champions. Holding two separate title belts has nothing to do with it, they were Undisputed because they were the only legitimate world champion. By the way, the WCW title was called the World Heavyweight Championship title by that time, so you don't even have it right on semantics.
Anyway, back on topic. Like others have said, it'd be difficult to pull off since Sheamus isn't even in either Elimination Chamber match. And like somebody else said, John Cena and Randy Orton should be the two to main event WrestleMania in an Undisputed Championship match. Or maybe Cena and Punk.
And if they are going to unify the titles some day, I think the easiest and most logical way to do it is to have the MITB winner hold onto the briefcase through January and win the Royal Rumble, then cash in MITB on one champion and win it and use the Royal Rumble winner clause on the other champion at WrestleMania.
Im not going to read through everybody arging , fact is HHH defeated Chris Jericho, thus becoming the second Undisputed WWE Champion.
Randy Savage was actually known as the Undisputed WWE Champion when he won the Mania 4 tourney to be come champion, but this was not unifying any belts, just giving us a final champion after the Hogan/Andre dramas in early 1988.
Chris Jericho unified the WWE and WCW/World Heavyweight Titles are beating Austin and Rock, we all know that. Helmsley by rights become the second when he beat Jericho at Mania 18. As rightly stated by others, Hogan, Taker, Rock then Lesnar were all described as WWE undisputed Champion as they only used the brand new WWE Title belt, this ended when HHH was presented with the old WCW belt for Raw's WWE Heavyweight Champion as Lesnar wouyld only defend on Smackdown.
Randy Savage was actually known as the Undisputed WWE Champion when he won the Mania 4 tourney to be come champion, but this was not unifying any belts, just giving us a final champion after the Hogan/Andre dramas in early 1988.
Chris Jericho unified the WWE and WCW/World Heavyweight Titles are beating Austin and Rock, we all know that. Helmsley by rights become the second when he beat Jericho at Mania 18. As rightly stated by others, Hogan, Taker, Rock then Lesnar were all described as WWE undisputed Champion as they only used the brand new WWE Title belt, this ended when HHH was presented with the old WCW belt for Raw's WWE Heavyweight Champion as Lesnar wouyld only defend on Smackdown.
If they unify the wwe and world title belts again it should no doubt be CM Punk and not Orton or Cena winning. I would like a repeat of the 3 match tourny format with Punk vs Cena (wwe belt) with Punk winning and Bryan vs Orton (world belt) with Bryan winning. Of course as I said, Punk wins final. Feel free to shit all over this....
