rvd has faced his cpnsequences

[cenablows2006]

Okay rvd just lost both titles in two days. To edge who is great but on raw where there the main belt never changes. Then big show tonight who sucks big time. He should not be suspeneded or fired because his last two nights were rough especially tonight.

 

[flndergco28]

*I am sure this should be in the ECW forum*

But I hope that after this, they only keep RVD off TV for a while and then that he gets a shot at the title and a chance to carry the belt again.

And I know this is the WWE forum, but hear me out...

Yes, what he did was wrong, he should have some repurcussions for breaking the law, I just hope that they do not fire him or Sabu for this. Because honestly, the way that they are booking the show right now is for shit. Sandman just beating up crap characters, Dreamer getting his ass kicked by Show (not even in matches), Al Snow was destroyed tonight by Test, Justin Credible destroyed by Angle on the first ECW show, Angle now even out... just think about it. The show will die. Yes, they are bringing in Test, CM Punk (who I can't wait to see) Nunzio is entertaining, get Super Crazy in there, etc. They need to build new people, and not in squash matches either like with Test. Show their skill, that they can wrestle and fans (not just ECW ones) will respect them and cheer for them.

 

[Guppee]

We wanted RVD to be champion since he came to WWE. He's finally the champ, this is how he pays us. If he weren't champ and in ECW, he'd be fired. THis sonsequence is none other than fine, as rules say he should be terminated.


What about Sabu??

 

[hothead25]

We wanted RVD to be champion since he came to WWE. He's finally the champ, this is how he pays us. If he weren't champ and in ECW, he'd be fired. THis sonsequence is none other than fine, as rules say he should be terminated.


What about Sabu??

Well since I seriously doubt Sabu was just an innocent passenger in the wrong place at the wrong time, he should have to deal with the same set of consequences RVD had to.

 

[desktop]

Well we dont know the truth about what really happened, but from watching ecw tonight they had the video with sabu that he will be back with no time off. Rvd got what he deserved hes not a 16 y/o pothead at home hes a Champion(which I never thought WWE would do) and he screwed it up. Apparently wwe knows what happened or they wouldnt have gave RVD 30 days and still push Sabu.

 

[SasuurKaNaathi]

I completely agree with Desktop about the fairness of the repercussions beleaguring RVD at the moment. RVD needs to understand that he is not in ECW and he is not a mid carder that he can continue to bend the rules and not create much of a ruckus for his actions. RVD was the central icon epitomizing the reincarnated ECW brand as the show was being progressively built around him since he was handed the ECW championship by Paul Heyman. The WWE also heavily summoned the ECW brand to their stockholders and the fact that his actions have been leaked to the media could provoke a major backlash to the company itself in the eyes of their stockholders. What kind of company gives an enormous responsibility and championship opportunity to a crackhead? The WWE installed their "wellness program" for a reason in order to deter blatant steroid or illegal drug usage and the indefinite suspensions to guys like Mercury and Masters really illustrates the strong extent to which the WWE is serious about severely punishing dopeheads within their company. You may argue that Masters and Mercury are minor people compared to RVD, but you have to consider that Masters was probably getting pushed to become a top heel on RAW and might have become the youngest champion in WWE history since the guy is only 22 right now. Within one year of being in the company, Masters participated in the main events of NYR in the Elimination Chamber, as well as the Survivor Series 5 on 5 Interpromotional Tag Match coupled with the weekly Master Lock Challenge segments being devoted to him early in 2005. As for Mercury, he was part of a record breaking and innovative tag team named mNM that disbanded primarily due to his drug problems.

However, as the guppee alluded to earlier, the contract does state that RVD could face termination if he is faced with drug charges. 18 grams of marijuana and 5 Vixen pills later, he is suspended for 30 days regardless of the fact that he was carrying two belts and the prospects of one show were hinging on his erroneous character. I do not believe RVD deserves another opportunity to become a champion because he further denigrated the reputation of the company in front of the mass media with his dastardly actions and further substantiates the popular idea that most wrestlers are crackheads since the champion of two brands falls under the category. The sport has little(if any) credibility in the eyes of the public and this incident is only going to augment this stance. RVD's recent irresponsible behavior has proven why he was never worthy of being a world champion because he has never possessed the class.dignity, or respect for the business to justify this opportunity. I refuse to have any sympathy for people like RVD who utilize any kind of drugs or over the counter pills to enhance their performance, thus breaching the rules and regulations corresponding the privilege of being a professional wrestler. The term "professional wrestler" might have been a joke in the 80's and 90's when steroids were almost encouraged rather than condoned, but the rules have altered through the ages and there is less tolerance towards illegal substances in any sport. It just appalls me that professional wrestlers have refused to acclimate their behaviors in order to assimilate with themselves into the current times. I think part of this abstinence to change from the wrestlers stems from the moral weakness of the fans who continue buying merchandise for known dopeheads like RVD and Jeff Hardy and continue to make it incumbent upon the wrestling managment to give these druggies immense opportunities for the sake of promoting their business. Even though the fans have every right to cheer for whoever they want to cheer, I think there has to come a time where the fans draw a line and mobilize against people like RVD who utilize and abuse them as a shield in order to avoid swift punishment for their repulsive actions. The fans have to defend the art of wrestling that they cherish by sending a stern message to guys like RVD who treat the art as a brothel where they can continue breaking the rules at the expense of more negative publicity of their art.

 

[DCLOUD]

In short words.He screwed himself and his fans.Sabu had nothing to loose.

 

[Ipswichicon]

OK let's get this right. RVD has not killed,shot or hurt anyone except himself. He has not "let his fans down". As I understand it he was caught with painkillers(understandable for a guy who takes the bumps he does) and weed(a recreational,not performance enhancing drug). WWE had no choice but to have him drop the titles and suspend him otherwise advertisers would have walked away, not wanting to be asscoiated with a company that appears to condone the use of an illegel substance. To suggest he "let his fans down" because of how he choses to relax in between entertaining them is wrong.

 

[bewarethepink]

RVD will have to live with what he did, and yeah he screwed himself over and ruined the biggest push of his career, but he will live to wrestle another day. There are wrestlers that have done and been through much worse and lived to see the light, and so will RVD. He is stuck between a rock and a hard place because now this is just Vince needed to take more control of ECW. Big show took the ECW title cause I honestly dont think that Vince will trust an ECW wrestler for awhile. RVD isnt making a big deal, he's taking this like a man, and hopefully learn that the bigger you get, the more spotlight they shine on you. Has he let some people down? Yeah...there have been people pushing for him for years, saying that he deserved to be a main-eventer, and just as he got there, he gets in this mess and straight back to square one.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

RVD won't lose push in the long run, just as Edge didn't over the Matt Hardy incident when he could easily have been punished too... WWE has a history with high profile guys and drug problems, Eddie was fired, but came back with a large push, ditto for Regal, Davey Boy too.. For other reasons, Shawn has been suspended more times than anyone... The point is Vince has invested in ECW and RVD, he knew what RVD was like before he started this, but now he has the ammo to make RVD change his ways. As someone said, we are talking painkillers and weed, not coke and booze... RVD was injured for over a year, he may still have some effects that require the painkillers... and WWE has played off the "stoner" aspect of his character for years, so to fire him now would be hypocritical to say the least... The best thing they can do is give him the choice, the drugs or the main event... RVD is a smart guy...he'll make the right choice...

 

[realblackhart]

He shouldn't have gotten fire, I'm sure many of the wrestler use these drugs, they just don't ge caught

 

[tbull]

the popular idea that most wrestlers are crackheads since the champion of two brands falls under the category. The sport has little(if any) credibility in the eyes of the public and this incident is only going to augment this stance. RVD's recent irresponsible behavior has proven why he was never worthy of being a world champion because he has never possessed the class.dignity, or respect for the business to justify this opportunity. I refuse to have any sympathy for people like RVD who utilize any kind of drugs or over the counter pills to enhance their performance, thus breaching the rules and regulations corresponding the privilege of being a professional wrestler. The term "professional wrestler" might have been a joke in the 80's and 90's when steroids were almost encouraged rather than condoned, but the rules have altered through the ages and there is less tolerance towards illegal substances in any sport. It just appalls me that professional wrestlers have refused to acclimate their behaviors in order to assimilate with themselves into the current times. I think part of this abstinence to change from the wrestlers stems from the moral weakness of the fans who continue buying merchandise for known dopeheads like RVD and Jeff Hardy and continue to make it incumbent upon the wrestling managment to give these druggies immense opportunities for the sake of promoting their business. Even though the fans have every right to cheer for whoever they want to cheer, I think there has to come a time where the fans draw a line and mobilize against people like RVD who utilize and abuse them as a shield in order to avoid swift punishment for their repulsive actions. The fans have to defend the art of wrestling that they cherish by sending a stern message to guys like RVD who treat the art as a brothel where they can continue breaking the rules at the expense of more negative publicity of their art.

Since when, if ever, was marijuana linked to being a "Crack head," a term you use at least twice in your incoherent tirade. One, a plant, grown and used for medicinal purposes for thousands of years and now made illegal (originating in the United States in order to stem Mexican immigration), from the use of which NOT ONE SINGLE PERSON HAS EVER DIED; whereas, CRACK, which is a version of cocaine mixed with other chemicals and bonded in heat into a rock, is smoked by people who become immediately addicted and has serious, immediate social and personal health problems. Aside from this claim, that RVD is a crack head, you also claim that you cannot sympathize with anyone like RVD who uses steroids or illegal drugs as an enhancement--since when does a drug which promotes laziness, numbness and social scorn promote anything athletic?

Though your points are strong, and most definitely from pure personal beliefs/feelings, they make little logical sense.

 

[Tommatt]

The question is what did he have? If it was just marijuana then it would have just been confiscated and then they would have been fined in ohio

 

[desktop]

Look people I smoke just as much as RVD, but Im not a Role Model for millions of little kids, I keep seeing everyone say "its not coke" Weed is Illegal people,sure it carries a lesser charge, but still a drug. Sure other peope may do it in WWE, but they dont get caught. And about them playing it off onscreen, HES AN ACTOR, hes supposed to run with any story line, Kane did not really burn his family, but hes also an actor. Simply put RVD was gettings his time, and he made a bad decision carrying it with him. He wont loose his push once he is back, but he has to be punished. Although I dont think Sabu is innocent he only had a pipe on him(speculation still cause we dont know the truth) so his fine is resonable.

 

[Tommatt]

The only reason I'm saying what I'm saying is because in the state of ohio its just a ticket. I'm wondering how management found out.

 

[Yaszie_123]

RVD deserves loosing his titles AND being suspended. I don't get it though, Randy Orton gets suspsended for 60 DAYS because he had bad behaviour BUT RVD is caught with Drugs and he is suspsended half the time! I just don't get it, RVD will not get pushed down the ladder when he comes back WWE has some major storylines for him BUT no not for Mr. RKO who they have made a jobber and a non-main eventer. It's just unfair, we know who is Vince's fave out of RVD and Randy... Mr. RVD. What is so great about him? He is on the chubby side AND a druggy!!! All wrestlers use steroids anyway to get there muscles that big! You really think Vince looks lke that at the age of 60?!? Don't think so.........

 

[desktop]

I actually think his Fav would be Orton, the only reason he put both belts on RVD was because of ECW comming back and he needed to push veiwers to Sci Fi. Also I think they are making a statement with RVD, Myself I dont like RVD but he deserved his spot and he deserves to be suspended witout pay. With Orton they tried to be quiet about it, so I think Orton got the better treatment.

 

[realblackhart]

Orton isn't even liked by anybody in the locker room. Doing anything less than what they did would have pissed off a lot of people. It was the pain killers RVD got suspened for much more than for the weed

7-6-06 but now that Orton did what he did, he BETTER get suspended

 

[WeedKrazy420]

my friends uncle wrestled and have sabu and rvd at his shows but he quit now. he might have sabu sign autographs at his bar. i say they shouldn;t be in trouble because weed should be legal anyways. and come on now rvd always has references to pot! hes the best and so is sabu. they will ruin ecw if they take them off. even tho i just don't get how they can hype up bigshow when hes wwe and they try to hype ecw and a wwe guys crushes them everyweek? they should put the title on a ecw guy!!! kurt angle and test and bigshow ain't ecw thats why heymen got a touchdown shot from a fan with a pop right in the kisser!!! ecw better step it up