Reinstating the Mayhem Title

[Spidey Revivey]

I'm just curious on what you guys think. Imagine if the hardcore division came back and the Eurasian/Elite Openweight titles were unified. Would you like to see that happen?

 

[Dagger Dias]

Yes to Mayhem return.

No to unification.

 

[Coco]

Yes to Mayhem.

Indifferent to unification.

 

[Bernkastel]

Positive to the return to Mayhem.

Negative on a title unification.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

I've been saying for a while now the Mayhem Championship should be brought back as the lower tier title.

As for Unification I would have to say no. I think 4 tiers would be a good thing for everyone.

 

[a0161613]

Yes to Mayhem return.

No to unification.

This.

 

[Find'er Woo'er Ryder]

Maybe not the exact mayhem title but a lower tier title, like tv title, would help out the lower card. Give them something to fight over, instead of just being there.

I don't think the two mid card titles should be unified.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

When I mentioned a unification, that was mostly because people may have a problem with 4 singles titles on the roster, therefore dismissing a Mayhem title revival.

 

[Coco]

Maybe not the exact mayhem title but a lower tier title, like tv title, would help out the lower card.

Disagree.

I genuinely want a garbage title. 24/7 rules would be even better. #MakeWrestlingFunAgain #MenOfMayhem

 

[Dagger Dias]

When I mentioned a unification, that was mostly because people may have a problem with 4 singles titles on the roster, therefore dismissing a Mayhem title revival.

The posts so far in this thread seem to indicate people want 4 titles though.

I think it can work. You have the World Championship as the top tier and the PPV main event. Two midcard titles where for instance the Eurasian Champion is the main event of Meltdown, the Elite Champion is the main event of Ascension. The champions mostly stay on their brand other than special occassions. We don't need a full brand extension but restricting the two titles at least makes the shows stand out from each other and could add some more prestige to the titles without having to add things like the Elite Gauntlet which few other than myself seem to want back. Mayhem title returns as the lower tier belt.

Newcomers benefit from the low tier belt and midcarders or upper carders who are not seeking the world title then still have two belts to chase.

 

[Tastycles]

As long as mayhem champions can doth the title to move up if and when they need to, great.

 

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

I voted sure. How about making the title owner some sort of automatic number one condender for a higher title too. When they use that opportunity and fail, the Mayhem title then becomes vacant again and goes back into a four man TLC match or something.

 

[Coco]

I voted sure. How about making the title owner some sort of automatic number one condender for a higher title too. When they use that opportunity and fail, the Mayhem title then becomes vacant again and goes back into a four man TLC match or something.

And if the mayhem champion wins the midcard title, the mayhem title should still be vacated because the champion has ascended to a higher plain. To differentiate between this scenario and the one where the mayhem champion loses to the midcard champion, in this scenario the new mayhem champion should be decided in a weapons-filled elimination chamber. And how about if when the midcard champion loses his title to the mayhem champion, the former midcard champion moves up and challenges the world champion? And then if the world champion loses his title in that match, the former world champion challenges for the mayhem title. By that time, the former world champion may even be competing for the vacant Mayhem championship in a weapons-filled elimination chamber.

I think you're onto something. It's the circle of life.

 

[Find'er Woo'er Ryder]

I voted sure. How about making the title owner some sort of automatic number one condender for a higher title too. When they use that opportunity and fail, the Mayhem title then becomes vacant again and goes back into a four man TLC match or something.

I don't like it. Lower card works hard and then wins the title, which is essentially a number one contender title.

 

[GI Cake]

Ever since the Elite X title got rid of that awful stipulation requiring you defend it every round in hopes of a heavyweight title shot there is literally no difference between the Elite X and the Eurasian titles. Unifying them would only work if there was a Mayhem title to replace it. At least with the Mayhem division it brings back a division for the "super duper hardcore" crowd and gives a perfect proving ground for up and coming superstars to show how edgy they can be to get to the upper card.

 

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

And if the mayhem champion wins the midcard title, the mayhem title should still be vacated because the champion has ascended to a higher plain. To differentiate between this scenario and the one where the mayhem champion loses to the midcard champion, in this scenario the new mayhem champion should be decided in a weapons-filled elimination chamber. And how about if when the midcard champion loses his title to the mayhem champion, the former midcard champion moves up and challenges the world champion? And then if the world champion loses his title in that match, the former world champion challenges for the mayhem title. By that time, the former world champion may even be competing for the vacant Mayhem championship in a weapons-filled elimination chamber.

I think you're onto something. It's the circle of life.

If the World Champion loses his title shot against the Mayhem champion then all the titles get unified into a Super Mid Card World Champion that can only be defended in triple threat tag team championship matches with no ref. It's perfect!

 

[a0161613]

I've thought about this some more and I think that the size of the roster needs addressing before a title comes back.

Creative should be actively pursuing new members.

I do wonder whether we could easily fill a KC show, by the time both mid card titles and KFAD matches are booked, that's a massive chunk of the roster. Plus the tag titles and WHC on top. That's 16 at least.

Get the roster up to 30 or so, maybe not so many that we need Aftershock but close enough then the Mayhem title has to be the first thing to come back.

 

[Dagger Dias]

I've thought about this some more and I think that the size of the roster needs addressing before a title comes back.

Creative should be actively pursuing new members.

I do wonder whether we could easily fill a KC show, by the time both mid card titles and KFAD matches are booked, that's a massive chunk of the roster. Plus the tag titles and WHC on top. That's 16 at least.

Get the roster up to 30 or so, maybe not so many that we need Aftershock but close enough then the Mayhem title has to be the first thing to come back.

While I agree with you here it still returns us to the same problem, until the roster increases a bit anyway. That being how to differentiate the two current midcard titles.

How does everyone (especially Creative) feel about the idea of the Eurasian being exclusive to Meltdown and the Elite being exclusive to Ascension, like I suggested in my other post? Not a full brand extension but just those titles. It accomplishes two things at once as this would then also cause a difference in the two shows other than their names and who the GM is.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

They were exclusive in the past. They never should have stopped being exclusive if you ask me, it made both shows worth reading to find out what the Elite Openweight/Eurasian Champions are up to and gave the GMs the means to out do each other if creative ever feels like going that route.

 

[Find'er Woo'er Ryder]

While I agree with you here it still returns us to the same problem, until the roster increases a bit anyway. That being how to differentiate the two current midcard titles.

How does everyone (especially Creative) feel about the idea of the Eurasian being exclusive to Meltdown and the Elite being exclusive to Ascension, like I suggested in my other post? Not a full brand extension but just those titles. It accomplishes two things at once as this would then also cause a difference in the two shows other than their names and who the GM is.

I like the idea of exclusive titles.

 

[Coco]

it made both shows worth reading

Implying that they aren't now?

 

[Hyorinmaru]

Implying that they aren't now?

Not at all. Creative does a fantastic job every single round

I see it right now as the current set up for RAW & Smackdown. If you miss one it's not the end of the world because everyone is on both shows.

With the midcard titles being exclusive it would be more like the upcoming brand split in that each show will have something you have to tune in to see because it's not mentioned on the other show.

Spoiler

Yes I'm aware that there's a huge difference between WWE and an Efed on a wrestling forum but it's the only thing I could think of to explain what I meant.

 

[Lee]

Unifying Eurasian and Elite titles is silly. Both current champs have done enough to elivate th titles to a level they've not been for quite sometime.

Mayhem would be fun.

 

[Coco]

everyone is on both shows.

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[Lee]

In fact I would rather get rid of the tag belts and bring the EurAsian in.