RAW's champions look weak?

[NotoriousMEAT]

Alright first off, the topic of this thread does not pertain to WWE Champion John Cena. It is however about the rest of champions on the RAW brand.

I gotta say that after watching RAW the last few weeks, they haven't done the best job making their champions look credible, at least in my opinion. Between the 3 champions, there's been very few clean wins or credible performances. Here's the breakdown of each champion since Extreme Rules, and the questions I give you for each one.

United States Champion Kofi Kingston: We all know the only reason he was given the strap was to keep it on RAW. No real build up or payoff for him becoming champion. So the next night him and Rey Mysterio team up and defeat the duo of Drew McIntyre and Jack Swagger, two men who as of late haven't done anything of relevance in the ring. A week later he's on the verge of losing his U.S. title to Swagger until Jerry Lawler coming down distracts Jack and gives Kofi the opening to win. And then tonight, he loses to CM Punk CLEAN and is used to make a statement. After hearing Punk's post match promo about the New Nexus rising to prominence, I thought this would lead to a U.S. title match/mini-feud down the line.. but Punk is already chasing the tag titles with Mason Ryan. With all that being said...
What do you think Kofi needs to do to make himself and the U.S. title relevant and important during the RAW broadcast? Who should he feud with? What's a possible storyline they could put together? Or do you think his character needs a total overhaul?

WWE Diva's Champion Brie Bella: Here's a person I never expected to be a champion in WWE. For years, her and her sister had their role as random celebrity valet, fill in's for random tag matches, and just overall eye candy. Yet they started to get interesting during the Daniel Bryan angle, and eventually as heels against him and Gail Kim. But it went no where, they stopped becoming relevant on TV, then Brie suddenly won the Diva's Championship. Since Extreme Rules, Brie didn't appear on one episode, then her and her sister lost to Kelly Kelly and Eve in a tag match, and finally tonight Brie lost clean to Kelly Kelly again. Not lookin good for the Bella's.
Do you think WWE's aiming to make Kelly Kelly Diva's Champion? Is Kharma's rampage gonna end with her claiming the title? Or is there a way to make Brie (and Nikki by association) interesting enough to be separate from the Kharma angle?

WWE Tag Team Champions Kane & Big Show: After dominating the Corre for a few weeks, this gigantic duo took the tag titles away from Slater and Gabriel. Since Extreme Rules, Kane beat Mason Ryan by DQ, but after the match he and Big Show were put down by the Ryan in a very impressive manner. The next week they were able to fend Ryan off, but were again only victorious by DQ. This week they lose to the lower half of Nexus (McGuilligutty & Otunga) after Punk caught Kane with a kick, and was it was also announced that they'd be defending the titles against Punk & Ryan this Sunday. Then if you add in Kane & Show having to deal with The Corre on Smackdown, including Show losing to Zeke and Kane beating Barrett by DQ (making 3 DQ wins in 2 weeks) and then eventually getting beat down by the group.. this team has had their hands full. Okay so...
Do you think WWE has done a good job making this giant team look dominate? Does RAW having all face male champions need to change, and should Punk & Ryan win the titles on Sunday? Or should Kane & Show hold on to the belts while WWE attempts to rebuild their tag division (ex. Nexus, Hawkins & Ryder, Mahall & Khali)?

Answer and discuss.

 

[ThUnDeRpHoEnIx]

[Alright first off, the topic of this thread does not pertain to WWE Champion John Cena. It is however about the rest of champions on the RAW brand.

Thank god.

What do you think Kofi needs to do to make himself and the U.S. title relevant and important during the RAW broadcast? Who should he feud with? What's a possible storyline they could put together? Or do you think his character needs a total overhaul?

I cant see him making the US title relevant.His run with the IC title was rather bland and he hardly defended it.

He should feud with Drew McIntyre and end up with Drew winning the US title and going on a reign.

His character wont really matter even if he gets a total overhaul.He'll still suck on the mic and have boring title runs because lets face it,Kofi as a heel which could make it slightly entertaining, wouldnt even be possible.

Do you think WWE's aiming to make Kelly Kelly Diva's Champion? Is Kharma's rampage gonna end with her claiming the title? Or is there a way to make Brie (and Nikki by association) interesting enough to be separate from the Kharma angle?

I can see Kelly Kelly winning the Diva's title with help from Kharma.Then she announces she hired Kharma to help her her the title and that Kharma isnt needed.Kharma then takes our Kelly Kelly wins the title at the next PPV and then goes on a long run with the title.

Do you think WWE has done a good job making this giant team look dominate? Does RAW having all face male champions need to change, and should Punk & Ryan win the titles on Sunday? Or should Kane & Show hold on to the belts while WWE attempts to rebuild their tag division (ex. Nexus, Hawkins & Ryder, Mahall & Khali)?

WWE has done a horrible job making them look dominant.Big Show and Kane need to retain at Over the Limit giving the belts at least some credibility and then go on destroying teams for the next few weeks before finally feuding with Mahal and Khali(Who have turned heel at this point) and trading victories untill the PPV where Show and Kane retain.Show and Kane need to go on a long dominating run just to get a little bit of credibility back into the titles.

 

[rge2010]

Put the US Title on R-Truth and make it feel relevant. Kofi Kingston is a joke and brings no credibility to that title.

R-Truth is doing great as a heel and he is relevant again. A good solid US Title run would really elevate him into that Mid/Main event spot.

 

[kingjaekob]

The only one weak is Kofi Kingston. This guy is mid card at best! With so much talent on Raw right now, Del Rio, Cm Punk, R Truth, Swagger, and a few more worthy of holding the title! Kofi is boring! Come ON Vince, and writeres do your job, WWE is below entertainment level, of what it should be, going by the talent you have!

Bella's are powerful, cause they are a package! Plus very marketable and well liked in locker room!

 

[RJB1976]

Of course the champs are weak, because the WWE doesn't care about any of the titles. Why job out your US champ, when you have Evan Bournes and Zach Ryders that could lose, and it really wouldn't effect them much.

But if you are expecting logic from ANYTHING the WWE does with the lower card title belts, well, keep waiting.

 

[Azane]

I never thought a midcard champion could be insulted by being midcard, but anyways

Kofi seems to just be the goto guy for midcard matches, Maybe we'll see Kofi feud with Dolph for the 8th time. Kofi's character is just so 1 dimensional right now, all the good acrobats on Raw are face right now, so Kofi's going to have to wrestle one of the entertainers. Unfortunately, Kofi still can't decide if he's Jamaican or African, so he's going to keep doing both stereotypes and hope nobody notices. I still think Jack Swagger needs to take the US title and run with it, it certainly would be worth more than his World title run.

Bellas, embody everything that wrestling fans hate about woman wrestling. Kharma or Beth are the only two divas that deserve the title right now. Layla could possibly see a run eventually, but I don't think she'll last well without Miss Taker. I would like to see the Bellas feud after Nikki twin magics and loses the belt for bree.

Tag Team, I still think that Kane/Big Show make the titles relevant, even if they're getting squashed. Simply put, They're Kane and Big Show. Big Show alone is larger than half the teams to hold the belts before. But I unfortunately seeing the dragged on Nexus shitting all over the Tag team belts for the 6th? time.

 

[DeathClutch]

the problem is simple, WWE had to many belts and to cater to them and make them look strong as well as other storylines without titles WWE doesn't have the time, so they skip on the belts due to it being a belt that should make x champion have instant value.

 

[thatcrazybiatch]

im going to blame two things, lack of creative effort and 2.......... JOHN CENA!!!!!!!! there i said it!!

yup years ago on heat and other shows at the start they would do a brief recap of whatever was going on over the wwe title. and sometimes other titles throughout the show, giving the impression there what you should be caring about

flash foward and smackdown is filled with promos on.... THE LATIST JOHN CENA STORYLINE!!!!! cant remember the last time it wasnt about him, even when hes not champ its all cena, there no title promos anymore,

i no people are going to say but cena brings money blah blah and thats all true but hes still part of the reason the titles suck, too much focus on him, loyal fans dont need to be reminded every 5 seconds.

 

[tripleddd]

Ok here i go again ill be banging on the same point again not until they unify the belts whc & wwe will you see the us and ic title start to mean something.The us title needs to go on someone like Swagger - now who potentially has something about him. The Ic title id keep with Wade Barrett for a while as well. The Tag team titles should stay with Kane & Big Show until after the summer time then split them.

 

[triple_b2k]

The Diva's title on one of the Bella's is a joke. I don't know what WWE see in them. Natalya's reign was far too short. The only good thing is Kharma will win the title soon and maybe, MAYBE bring some credibility back to that belt. Oh diva's division, why do I wish you to get better when you continue to let me down...

As for the other titles, well, as mentioned the promos and large amount of tv time is given to the main event for a PPV or that show.

p.s. I saw some mentions of titles not being defended enough. I think titles should only be defended on PPV's or special shows. People will buy into the PPV's to see title change hands. Look at UFC, you see plenty of great matches on TV for free but they're not title matches. Just a thought on that.

 

[hollowpoint]

im going to blame two things, lack of creative effort and 2.......... JOHN CENA!!!!!!!! there i said it!!

yup years ago on heat and other shows at the start they would do a brief recap of whatever was going on over the wwe title. and sometimes other titles throughout the show, giving the impression there what you should be caring about

flash foward and smackdown is filled with promos on.... THE LATIST JOHN CENA STORYLINE!!!!! cant remember the last time it wasnt about him, even when hes not champ its all cena, there no title promos anymore,

i no people are going to say but cena brings money blah blah and thats all true but hes still part of the reason the titles suck, too much focus on him, loyal fans dont need to be reminded every 5 seconds.

Uh.....what?! How did you come up with blaming John Cena for credibility of titles that he doesn't even have? The questions were about credibility of titles OTHER than the WWE title on RAW so Cena literally has nothing to do with this thread.

OT: What do you think Kofi needs to do to make himself and the U.S. title relevant and important during the RAW broadcast? Who should he feud with? What's a possible storyline they could put together? Or do you think his character needs a total overhaul?
First off, I don't think Kofi Kingston needs a total overhaul, but I do think he needs to be involved in an actual storyline for the U.S. Title and not get thrown into random matches. It's cool that he is competing every week, but his matches seem to be fillers and have little value in them. Maybe a feud with Swagger or even R-Truth would work. The storylines could be as simple as Truth using his conspiracy hook like he has been. Or Swagger being an All American American and should be the rightful holder of the U.S. Championship being that he is American. Make it last about 2-3 months, then BAM! credibility restored.

Do you think WWE's aiming to make Kelly Kelly Diva's Champion? Is Kharma's rampage gonna end with her claiming the title? Or is there a way to make Brie (and Nikki by association) interesting enough to be separate from the Kharma angle?
To be honest, I don't know what the hell the WWE is trying to do with the Divas division. They have one match a show and that match seems to be constant interrupted by either Kharma, Cole, or both. Being that Kharma hasn't actually been in a match yet, it's hard to say, but I guess that she will go after whoever the champion is and destroy them and become the Divas Champion. Again, given the lack of time the Divas have in a show, I doubt they will have two separate Divas' segments.

Do you think WWE has done a good job making this giant team look dominate? Does RAW having all face male champions need to change, and should Punk & Ryan win the titles on Sunday? Or should Kane & Show hold on to the belts while WWE attempts to rebuild their tag division (ex. Nexus, Hawkins & Ryder, Mahall & Khali)?
I think that the WWE has done a good job of making this team show flashes of dominance more than anything. They have also shown that they can be beat or taken advantage of if you have the numbers to do so. Kane and Show should beat Punk and Ryan at OTL, but they probably won't. For some reason the Nexus has life again and what a better way to establish them than to have them win the straps. Either way it makes the belts mean something which is great.

 

[ArcherCC]

What do you think Kofi needs to do to make himself and the U.S. title relevant and important during the RAW broadcast? Who should he feud with? What's a possible storyline they could put together? Or do you think his character needs a total overhaul? - I like Kofi, I really do, but I don't know what can be done, oh I know give him a storyline instead of just random matches, have him feud with Either Swagger or Truth for 6 months or so, and give him a manager to do the talking for him.

Do you think WWE's aiming to make Kelly Kelly Diva's Champion? Is Kharma's rampage gonna end with her claiming the title? Or is there a way to make Brie (and Nikki by association) interesting enough to be separate from the Kharma angle? - Not sure I care, Diva's matches have been a joke for years now, and aside form a few (Natty, Beth, Kong) the whole division is a waste of time.

Do you think WWE has done a good job making this giant team look dominate? Does RAW having all face male champions need to change, and should Punk & Ryan win the titles on Sunday? Or should Kane & Show hold on to the belts while WWE attempts to rebuild their tag division (ex. Nexus, Hawkins & Ryder, Mahall & Khali)? - Honestly if anything it's made them look weaker, yes Ryan is massive, but come on with these two monsters they should be able to earn a few clean wins.

 

[thatcrazybiatch]

Uh.....what?! How did you come up with blaming John Cena for credibility of titles that he doesn't even have? The questions were about credibility of titles OTHER than the WWE title on RAW so Cena literally has nothing to do with this thread.

OT: What do you think Kofi needs to do to make himself and the U.S. title relevant and important during the RAW broadcast? Who should he feud with? What's a possible storyline they could put together? Or do you think his character needs a total overhaul?
First off, I don't think Kofi Kingston needs a total overhaul, but I do think he needs to be involved in an actual storyline for the U.S. Title and not get thrown into random matches. It's cool that he is competing every week, but his matches seem to be fillers and have little value in them. Maybe a feud with Swagger or even R-Truth would work. The storylines could be as simple as Truth using his conspiracy hook like he has been. Or Swagger being an All American American and should be the rightful holder of the U.S. Championship being that he is American. Make it last about 2-3 months, then BAM! credibility restored.

Do you think WWE's aiming to make Kelly Kelly Diva's Champion? Is Kharma's rampage gonna end with her claiming the title? Or is there a way to make Brie (and Nikki by association) interesting enough to be separate from the Kharma angle?
To be honest, I don't know what the hell the WWE is trying to do with the Divas division. They have one match a show and that match seems to be constant interrupted by either Kharma, Cole, or both. Being that Kharma hasn't actually been in a match yet, it's hard to say, but I guess that she will go after whoever the champion is and destroy them and become the Divas Champion. Again, given the lack of time the Divas have in a show, I doubt they will have two separate Divas' segments.

Do you think WWE has done a good job making this giant team look dominate? Does RAW having all face male champions need to change, and should Punk & Ryan win the titles on Sunday? Or should Kane & Show hold on to the belts while WWE attempts to rebuild their tag division (ex. Nexus, Hawkins & Ryder, Mahall & Khali)?
I think that the WWE has done a good job of making this team show flashes of dominance more than anything. They have also shown that they can be beat or taken advantage of if you have the numbers to do so. Kane and Show should beat Punk and Ryan at OTL, but they probably won't. For some reason the Nexus has life again and what a better way to establish them than to have them win the straps. Either way it makes the belts mean something which is great.

errr well if you actualy read what i said you would understand :S
wwe doesnt do promos around the titles anymore like they used to, its all about john cena, hes all you see on smackdown and hes not even on the show :S they should show clips of the raw titles being defended like they used 2, raw also usualy starts with a cena promo rather than any title

 

[hollowpoint]

errr well if you actualy read what i said you would understand :S
wwe doesnt do promos around the titles anymore like they used to, its all about john cena, hes all you see on smackdown and hes not even on the show :S they should show clips of the raw titles being defended like they used 2, raw also usualy starts with a cena promo rather than any title

Nah I read what you said, it just didn't make any sense to me. The OP asked about the Raw Champions minus the WWE Title so SD! or John Cena has nothing to do with this. Again, it's about the Raw Champions minus the WWE Title. Get it now?!

Now what i will agree with you on is the lack of focus on the lower championships. None of them have an actual storyline behind them. The Tag Team title feud right now seems forced or meshed together. They are used as props instead of achievements.

 

[K2Fan]

My Champions would be:

WWE Champion - The Miz.
The Miz to me is the most entertaining superstar right now. Heels are way more entertaining then faces so he should be champion.

United States - R-Truth
So far I'm liking him as heel and he could have some good feuds with Rey, Kofi and Morrison.

Tag Team - Rhodes & Dibiase
Stop that gimmick of Cody's and put them back together. They are a legit team and WWE needs those. Also it'll make Dibiase relevant.

Diva's - Kelly Kelly
Improving every week, the only over and marketable diva. Vince see's her as a top diva and since she's only 24 she still has plenty of years left and will keep getting better.