Raw vs. Impact ratings in for 4/19

[Hulkamaniac]

Raw: 3.0-3.1

Impact: 1.0

Good week for Impact, but they need to build momentum from this and not fall flat on their asses. Raw is either a 3.0 or 3.1, all the data isn't in yet, but it is known that the rating is a 3.1 at most.

Good week for TNA to put on such a strong show, and hopefully they can build into being a legit contender. Interested to see what the WWE does next week.

 

[Mr. TM]

It was easy to see that with the show TNA was putting on, having a title match and a number one contenders match on the same night, people were going to tune into see TNA. At this point, whenever TNA announce a title match, there is a good chance you will see a title change, so for the first while of doing it, I think TNA will do well to bring in the crowds. But it will cause it to be killed soon enough with all the title changes.

WWE might have lost some ground with not having their stars on the show.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Of course RAW's ratings suffered this week, with all of their top stars on the RAW brand stuck overseas. What did you expect, that RAW could pull down the same numbers with all of their guys missing in action? What do you think would be the impact upon TNA if, hypothetically, they were taping a live episode of iMPACT and Styles, RVD, Angle, Hardy, Hogan, Flair, and Anderson were nowhere to be found? Isn't it obvious that their rating would dip even lower than the lofty 0.8 they have shown in the past?

Bottom line is this. Even with a sub-par episode of RAW with an extremely depleted roster, and a better than average episode of iMPACT, with top contender matches, title matches, and a title change on free TV for a fan favorite, RAW's ratings were still triple that of iMPACT.

Over the next few weeks, we will see the draft on RAW as well as a commercial free episode of RAW. Meanwhile, iMPACT will again have a hard time following up on the momentum from this week as they have no idea how to create and logically follow up on storylines (right Joe?). The end result will be the dominance of RAW over iMPACT yet again, and the TNA smarks scrambling for explanations and excuses as to why the numbers are what they are.

 

[Hulkamaniac]

Of course RAW's ratings suffered this week, with all of their top stars on the RAW brand stuck overseas. What did you expect, that RAW could pull down the same numbers with all of their guys missing in action? What do you think would be the impact upon TNA if, hypothetically, they were taping a live episode of iMPACT and Styles, RVD, Angle, Hardy, Hogan, Flair, and Anderson were nowhere to be found? Isn't it obvious that their rating would dip even lower than the lofty 0.8 they have shown in the past?

What did Raw get last week, with all their stars? Like a 3.2, correct? Not exactly lighting the world on fire. Yeah, but I'm sorry that Raw was stuck with having such lowlights like HHH, Undertaker, Chris Jericho, and Edge.

Bottom line is this. Even with a sub-par episode of RAW with an extremely depleted roster, and a better than average episode of iMPACT, with top contender matches, title matches, and a title change on free TV for a fan favorite, RAW's ratings were still triple that of iMPACT.

Yeah, if TNA doesn't increase their ratings by millions in one week, then it doesn't matter at all. Nothing matters unless it's ridiculous.

Over the next few weeks, we will see the draft on RAW as well as a commercial free episode of RAW. Meanwhile, iMPACT will again have a hard time following up on the momentum from this week as they have no idea how to create and logically follow up on storylines (right Joe?). The end result will be the dominance of RAW over iMPACT yet again, and the TNA smarks scrambling for explanations and excuses as to why the numbers are what they are.

You'd better hope so. YOu have no idea what's goin to happen in the future, but you just make the assumption, because you, for whatever reason, WANT TNA to fail. Maybe you dig monopoly, but I don't.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

For iMPACT! it was a decent night as far as ratings go. They scored a 1.0 last night, first time they've done that since March 8th. The quarter hours were 0.91, 1.02, 1.04 and 1.02 for the first hour of the show and the second hour drew a 0.82, 0.95, 0.87 and 0.94 with an average of 1.3 million viewers. It was the best night iMPACT! has had both in terms of a show and numbers, though they continue to lose viewers in the second hour of the show head to head against Raw.

Raw pulled a 3.1 Nielsen Rating last night with 4.15-4.2 million viewers. Last night's Raw was easily the lowest rated show of the year. It was widely known that virtually the entire Raw roster was stranded in Belfast, Ireland, so whatever plans were scheduled for Raw had to be scrapped and changed at pretty much the eleventh hour.

iMPACT! finally made it to a 1.0 last night and was, overall, a better show than Raw. All it took to pull it off was an act of God. Now, of course, since TNA finally managed to score what would be a decent rating compared to what it's been doing, I've little doubt that the huge TNA marks are going to be declaring that TNA is about to kick Raw's ass or is about to really open up on Raw or is about to start winning the Monday Night Wars and all this and that.

 

[Coco]

These numbers mean nothing. TNA's show last night was meant to generate post show word-of-mouth more than anything. If any numbers tell us anything, it's the numbers that show whether the word-of-mouth can create an upward trend from here on out. The fact that TNA scored an average rating last night doesn't mean the night was a failure. Last night was meant to create grassroots buzz more than anything else. From what I've seen on the boards thus far, it appears to have been a success.

 

[TheDen]

This is kinda funny to watch some folks claiming this TNA number to be good. My goodness, how the standards have fallen! The company pulls a 0.6 a couple weeks ago, and now, because they're not at rock-bottom levels anymore is somehow a success? Good grief! Was it not just a little over a month ago that anything less than a 1.5 would be a disappointment -- especially with an unopposed hour now, no less!? Now a 1.0 is a clear reflection the winds of change are blowing among us? This is pure comedy.

And why does someone thinking TNA might actually hit a .7 in coming weeks -- a number they've hit often enough -- mean they're ROOTING for TNA to fail? Does it dawn on any TNA fans that maybe the reason so many people don't care for TNA is because they actually aren't entertained by the show they book, most of the time? Why does it mean they have to have a personal slant against the company, just because they think the TV product sucks most of the time?

I think most people like TNA's wrestlers & have detested their TV show. They change the people (person) writing that damn thing, and I guarantee that a measly 1.0 will no longer be the standard for success. At this point, an infomercial WITHOUT RVD, Jeff Hardy, Sting, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, and Mick Foley could damn-near pull TNA's numbers in prime time. There's absolutely no excuse for that.

 

[Davi323]

This week's ratings can be tossed away as meaningless. I don't think anyone wants to make the claim that RAW would have gotten a 3.1 if the wrestlers hadn't gotten stranded, so we can't read anything into the ratings this week. It was a one-time fluke that led to the RAW roster not being there. But, what is interesting, is that TNA increased at a lesser rate than RAW decreased...which means a lot of normal RAW watchers found something else to watch instead of RAW, but still avoided TNA.

TNA was guaranteed to pick up some viewers once news the RAW roster was out of commission, but given the opportunity, that their ratings weren't significantly higher than they had been previously, when they might have been. (getting a 1.0 when you were getting .8 and .9 isn't exactly the same as jumping to a 1.9 or something)

If anything, TNA should be disappointed that they didn't do better without the normal RAW roster as competition.

 

[Hulkamaniac]

Raw did a 3.2 last week. If they did a 3.1 this week, that means they went down by .1. TNA did a .8 last week. They did a 1.0 this week. That's an increase of .2. How are you getting that TNA went up by less then Raw went down? It's actually the reverse.

 

[TheDen]

It's pretty clear most fans of this business do not feel TNA, in their eyes, is a worthy alternative. If RAW isn't doin' it for them, they go watch 24 or UFC. If RAW drops from a 3.7 to a 3.2 for a given week, you don't see TNA go up .5 (or .3 or .4 for that matter) for that same week. Most people seem to like TNA's wrestlers, and would likely follow the product more closely if they didn't think the TV show was so bad, week-to-week.

If TNA can just bottle what they did last night & do the same thing for 2 straight years, maybe they'll get within a ratings point of Raw. Problem is, I don't believe Spike TV & Panda Energy are going to throw 2 more years of time and money away on 1's in the TV ratings and less than 20,000 buys every month on PPV. Those companies are about turning profits. They can do charity work for much cheaper than what they spend on TNA year after year.

 

[SHAYAN_CENA_Y2J]

It was the best opportunity for impact.Raw was done by SD stars (Personally , i didn't watch Raw because there was no Cena or Orton ) , It was night after one of TNA's biggest events of the year , it was live and they crowned a new world champion.I think it really doesn't count as an improvement.Odds were on their side and they just raised 0.1.

On the other hand , there is no surprise that a show who gives Kozlov 15 mins. suffers in ratings.They were obviously killing time by their segments.

Normal week for Raw and a slight disappointment for impact , if you consider the situation.

 

[hunterXhunter21]

Looking at the ratings for this month Raw did a 3.2, 3.2 and a 3.1. TNA did a .9, .8 and a 1.0.

I'm not saying TNA had anything to do with Raw losing .1 in the rating. I doubt they did. I also doubt the Raw stars not being there had much to do with with the rating drop off also. Raw did a 3.0 the first hour and a 3.1 the second. So ratings went up as the show went on. If people didn't want to watch Smackdown stars the rating would have stayed the same or gone down.

Was there really any BIG media coverage that the Raw stars were not going to be on the show? Other than all the Internet rumor sites? I don't think WWE.com posted anything about it till the day of the show. So a small percentage of people knew about this before turning Raw on. So you either say that small percentage knew and didn't watch or that fewer people tuned in.

If Raw had dropped .5 in the rating or any other kind of big drop you could blame it on the lack of Raw stars. I just think fewer people just happened to tune in this week because of doing other things.

 

[info62]

RAW has had a few 3.2s lately and yesterday's show was only slightly below that, so to say that the bad rating was COMPLETELY because of the roster not being there can't be right.

The Impact episode following a great PPV drew a higher number than last week, so it is an improvement. Last night's show was good and I hope that the ratings will start to show this in the future. TNA does seem to have a lot of atrocious weeks mixed together with astounding ones, and that has to be hurting the ratings, if they could start to consistently have good shows then hopefully the ratings will be reaching at least the 1.3s again in the near future.

As for RAW, eh. The rating was slightly down, because the biggest draws were not there and the show they put on sucked. Honestly I haven't been able to sit through 2 hours of the show for months now, though, so I don't see what makes this week any worse than any other week.

 

[WWE Manster03]

I've said it before and I'll say it again. This Monday's ratings were essentially meaningless. I know alot of people who personally turned Raw off because the show was badly written. When you have to scrap an ENTIRE 2 hour broadcast and rewrite it plus make arrangements for talent to travel and such could you really expect a stellar program writing wise? When they had matches, they weren't all that bad(excluding Khali/Kozlov). Impact did put on a very good show, but I'll wait to see what happens on their next live show without a PPV fallout to motivate people to watch(WWE always gets a ratings increase after big PPVs to, so I'm not just saying TNA will have this happen). They will probably get killed this week because the draft always gets good numbers, and with no guest hosts there really won't be to many wasted segments on a 3 hour show IMO. So the real comparison is live show vs live show without PPV fallout. If those shows finish closer to what we had this week then they have recently, then I will be impressed and until then I'm gonna go ahead and reserve judgement.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

I think when we heard the Raw crew was stuck in Europe, TNA was gonna put on a great show to counter. They got good rating, if they can keep this up, I would be impressed, because after Jan 4th they started going downhill, then Hogan's in-ring debut got 1.0 rating, then it started going downhill again, now RVD is new champion, let's see if they can gain more viewers next week. As for WWE, most people knew beforehand that the Raw superstars wern't going to make it and so must have opted to watch iMPACT over Raw. So the nextRaw will be the aftermath of Extreme Rules, it will certainly draw some viewers and also the draft after that, who knows who will be moving to Raw, obviously a big name from Smackdown, whoever that is.

TNA are hanging on, each week they do be seeming to take Raw viewers and have them for themselves, which is what going against Raw was all about according to Dixie Carter.

I don't see TNA beating WWE, i mean, does anyone? But TNA are moving forward which is a good thing, let's hope RVD winning the title is the start of something new.

 

[ABMorales787]

The Raw talent being out of action isn't really a strong argument. The same people who read the reports about Raw were bound to learn of Smackdown replacing them.For me, trading John Cena for The Undertaker is a huge trade up. What really screwed it up was that dumbass, McGruber. What the fuck was the point R-Truth "exploding"? It wasn't funny. McGruber peeing his pants. Not funny. The Smackdown roster works every week by wrestling. Not these stupid "comedic" skits.

As for TNA, I loved iMPACT!. For me it was phenomenal to see RVD step up like that. However I reall would've preffered to see that very same iMPACT! episode on next week. Live and all, facing the WWE Draft. There you would've really had put iMPACT! To the test. Facing the entire WWE in a special broadcast. Should they've maintained the 0.8 would've at least show they have a loyal fan base. Which is a positive start 2 months into this "Head-To-Head" era.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

The Raw talent being out of action isn't really a strong argument. The same people who read the reports about Raw were bound to learn of Smackdown replacing them.For me, trading John Cena for The Undertaker is a huge trade up. What really screwed it up was that dumbass, McGruber. What the fuck was the point R-Truth "exploding"? It wasn't funny. McGruber peeing his pants. Not funny. The Smackdown roster works every week by wrestling. Not these stupid "comedic" skits.

While I do agree that MacGruber didn't do the show any favors, the fact that almost the entire Raw roster was absent does have some strong points. There are a lot of fans that watch Raw that don't watch Smackdown. Whether some people just choose to go out on Friday nights or don't have MyNetworkTV, Smackdown's audience is substantially less than Raw's. The fans that attended Raw last Monday, I'm sure most of them had already purchased their tickets for Raw long before the event was to have taken place. As for the television audience, it's also possible that a significant portion of Raw's regular viewers didn't tune in to watch Raw since they did discover that pretty much the entire Raw roster wasn't going to be on the show. Sometimes, different fans do prefer one brand over another. There are often times in which the WWE will have both Raw and Smackdown shows in the same city or general area on the same day and different fans will decide which one they want to see. Now, while I'm not saying that this is the complete reason for such a low rating for Raw last Monday, there are indicators that some viewers may not have been interested in watching Raw is Smackdown.