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PTP Tease Potential Break Up?

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Just when you thought the tag team division would get better.

Titus O'Neil and Darren Young appeared on the WWE App last night and said that they are looking to further their singles careers. Both men had singles matches last night on Raw, as O'Neil lost to Christian while Darren Young lost to Dolph Ziggler.

I like what I see from O'Neil. He has the look, charisma and is better than average on the mic.

Young will be nothing more than jobber material.

I can see this (Young) being the reason why the E would want to break them up. One looks to be holding back the other.

Thoughts?
 
yeah Darren Young sucks overall he looks too unsure in the ring, has few moves, little charisma. Titus on the other hand looks like he could be a beast. Ezekiel Jackson 2.0. You hit it right on the head, Closet Fan. It will be interesting to see what WWE will do with him.
 
I believe that Titus O' Neal will pull a Shad and betray Darren Young leading up to a Peanut Butter Crunch on a pole match at Summerslam.

All joking aside, I think Titus will have an entertaining run as a singles competitor. I don't see anything in Black John Cena, but who knows, maybe he can become a successful mid-card heel.
 
In my eyes, Titus O'Neil has always been the standout talent among the PTPs. He looked really good against Christian last night. One thing that's helping some of these heels look more promising has been the change in how the matches on Raw are booked.

For instance, about a year or so ago, Christian probably would have decimated Titus in a few minutes with Titus getting in mostly basic offense and maybe one significant power move before eating the canvas. We saw it in action again with Fandango giving Orton a good, competitive match after Orton won MITB. Under the prior booking strategy to make Orton look like an uberbeast, he'd have blown through Fandango in a couple of minutes with no problem like he's done with Heath Slater or Jinder Mahal in the past.

As far as how far Titus could go, I don't personally see him going any further than the mid-card. He's only been wrestling for a handful of years, yet he's already 36 years old and hasn't held gold in WWE. Titus is most likely too old to be looked at seriously as a top guy long term. If he'd gotten into wrestling a decade ago, I think he could have had a brighter career outlook.
 
I wouldn't mind the split. When most people think of the Prime Time Players, they think of Titus and his personality first. If given a singles push, Titus could still act like he does whether it's as a heel or face.

I also find him legitimately hilarious whether he's talking on TV or on WWE Inbox. Yes, he's older but that doesn't mean he still can't do a lot of stuff. R-Truth returned to the WWE in 2008 at 36 (same age as Titus). Yes, I know Truth has been wrestling way longer than Titus, but in the last 5 years Truth won the tag team titles and the US title. He also had a world title feud against John Cena. The fact of the matter is that at any age, you can still get a decent push and have a successful career. For all we know, Titus could get a really good push and still be around for 10 years. I'm not saying he will, but in this day and age it is a possibility.

As for Darren Young, I have no idea what he can become. Maybe he can become a decent midcard heel? Maybe he can pull off a comedy gimmick where he uses his resemblance to Cena as an excuse to dress/talk/act like John Cena? Doesn't mean he has to feud/team with Cena, just something to do.
 
IF Darren Young came out to WORD LIFE and wearing basketball jerseys, jean shorts, and old school reebok pumps claiming there's a new DOCTOR of THUGANMOICS it would be hysterical. Can't forget the chain either. This could be a good mid-card gimmick. Titus could eventually be a WORLD CHAMP. It's just a matter if he learns to tell a story in the ring. That will come with the right opponents.
 
They could also pair up Darren w/JTG and dub themselves the CRYME TIME PLAYERS!!! It could be a way to utilize 2 talents that do not get much TV time. While I do like Titus and believe he does have the potential to be a WORLD CHAMP, pair him with a returning Ezekiel Jackson and they could be that POWER DOMINANT face team like the APA or Demolition.
 
As much as I love PTP, I really wouldn't mind this. Titus is, quite frankly, being held back by Young, and while I don't hate Young per se, he isn't going to move past the midcard at this point. I like the idea of him becoming a Cena parody; let him do his little Charlie Haas thing and push Titus to the MOON! He has the charisma, he's improved leaps and bounds in the ring and is probably the best jobber on the mic right now. He's only 36, and while that is old by WWE proportions, he can still go for at least another 10 years barring injury. That's a solid upper midcard, part time main eventer for a good 5 and a world title contender for the next 5. Awesome investment to me.
 
Titus O'Neill isn't Main Event material yet, but he's way better than Darren Young. Titus' in-ring mannerisms and mic skills have improved so much recently whilst Darren Young is unfortunately probably as good as he's going to get. I think O'Neill could branch out as a singles wrestler or go into a tag team with someone better than Young.
 
They could also pair up Darren w/JTG and dub themselves the CRYME TIME PLAYERS!!! It could be a way to utilize 2 talents that do not get much TV time. While I do like Titus and believe he does have the potential to be a WORLD CHAMP, pair him with a returning Ezekiel Jackson and they could be that POWER DOMINANT face team like the APA or Demolition.

I don't actually hate the start of this idea, the part of Cryme time Players. I think if they're getting rid of a tag team, they need to replace it with another. And this idea actually makes sense, unlike the typical 'pair the two black guys together' BS some of the posters pull. Which, of course leads to your second part, which boils down to pairing two black guys together, simply because they are black. If the E pulls the plug on PTP, then it's to have one guy get a singles push and the other either to become a jobber or get a new team.
 
Neither has the potential to be, well, anything in wrestling. Titus has a hot bod, sure. He's not void of charisma. But on a whole he sucks.

Keep them together and have a tag team on the roster that lasts about 5 years. Y'know, like the golden days when some jobber tag teams seems to be around forever.
 
I don't see any purpose in breaking them up unless one of them is getting pushed, and I really can't see that happening at all. Why not just leave them as a tag team where at least they can be used, instead of adding to an already overblown singles bracket?
 
I think if they are going to split them up they should pair one with R-Truth and the other with Kofi Kingston, that way we have four black tag teams instead of two. It makes perfect sense.
 
i dunno, for some reason something about titus bothers me in the ring. He is kind of clumsy like a teenager who is learning to grow into his huge growth spurt. Wish him nothing but the best of luck but i dont think he has the IT factor.
 
I think if they are going to split them up they should pair one with R-Truth and the other with Kofi Kingston, that way we have four black tag teams instead of two. It makes perfect sense.

No, actually, it makes no sense whatsoever. Pairing guys up based solely on the color of their skin is fundamentally stupid. To not even have a reason why one should be with Truth and one with Kofi, shows a level of immaturity. Sure Kofi and Titus could be a good Power and Flash team, but Kofi is better served reforming Air aboom when Bourne comes back. Truth and either guy makes no sense. As I said before, the idea of Cryme Time Players was not a bad idea. If I'm the E, I'd actually out JTG in with the current PTP, and do a Freebird rule style team, that would allow one guy, most likely, Titus to branch off and do some more singles matches. This, you see, is a good fit team, and is coincidental that they are all black.
 
Darren Young is a waste of space. He actually had more potential for being a running joke, as the black John Cena. They could've made a comedy character out of him. Oh well.

O' Neil has more potential. He's the better talker in the duo, and he showcases more of a personality than Young. Plus, he has the type of look and size Vince drools over. But I think O' Neil's age will work against him. He's creeping towards forty, so the window to do anything remotely significant with him is closing already, and time isn't on his side. It's going to take some time to push O' Neil up the card, and he's already waiting behind guys like Sheamus, Sandow, Bryan, The Shield, Curtis Axel, Alberto Del Rio, Dolph Ziggler, Bray Wyatt, Big. E Langston, and Cesaro. And you can't forget the mainstays like Cena, Punk, and Orton.

Personally, I'd keep them together. Honestly, it's better for O' Neil and Young, because they'll be lost in the crowded mid card pool of single wrestlers soon enough. As a team, you could throw them at, whoever The Shield drops the titles to, because both guys have more of a positive upside as a team.
 
Young always was kinda there in whatever he did surprised he is still around honestly.

Tidus though has a personality, strength, speed kinda and he's jacked. He can start off with a US/ IC title run down the line. If PTP feuds tho it basically be a no contest.
 
Darren Young is absolute garbage and unless JTG allows him to share his hiding spot on cut days then I don't see him lasting long. Titus has some potential as a possible mid card guy. He has the look, is decent in the ring, and has shown some good charisma and passable mic work. The ceiling for him is probably a mid card champion but he should at least last a while.
 
No, actually, it makes no sense whatsoever. Pairing guys up based solely on the color of their skin is fundamentally stupid. To not even have a reason why one should be with Truth and one with Kofi, shows a level of immaturity. Sure Kofi and Titus could be a good Power and Flash team, but Kofi is better served reforming Air aboom when Bourne comes back. Truth and either guy makes no sense. As I said before, the idea of Cryme Time Players was not a bad idea. If I'm the E, I'd actually out JTG in with the current PTP, and do a Freebird rule style team, that would allow one guy, most likely, Titus to branch off and do some more singles matches. This, you see, is a good fit team, and is coincidental that they are all black.

I kind of like your ideas actually, only I'd change it slightly. JTG and Darren Young would make a good comedy team, then Truth and Titus as two older guys with charisma and basic ring skills, Kofi and Mark Henry as your speed and power team and Booker T and Teddy Long as your black Team Hell No! Four black teams, makes perfect sense.
 
I'm sorry, but to think that either of these guys will be a long-term success is ridiculous. They've improved somewhat since their NXT days, but that's really not saying much. Their promo skills are still non-existant. And the only time it seems like they remotely have any charisma is when they're together doing the PTP gimmick. Breaking them up is just a bad idea. The WWE is in need of decent tag teams, but the midcard is already packed with good to great talent.

And I know the 'WWE reject to TNA' joke has been overdone for years now, but I could genuinely see these guys being future endeavoured and ending up in TNA if they're split.
 
This would be a good move. The tag-team division is currently strong and they have gone as far as possible - split them up and see what happens.

I think Darren Young will struggle. He has put on some decent matches; has a fair amount of charisma but I just can't see him being a big player in the WWE. At best, he will be in the odd IC/US title match but I can't see him moving beyond that. He will probably end up in another tag-team or relseased.

Titus O'Neil is the guy who will become the star. He has proven he is a great worker and has the ability on the mic to be a success. I really think that with some good writing, Titus O'Neil can have a impact on the WWE. Even if it is just holding one of the mid-card belts before he has a feud with a top star.

There is always the possibility that neither or indeed both do well. Of course, I thought that Dibiase would be the bigger star than Rhodes and likewise with Morrison over the Miz. Maybe Darren Young is the big star out of this tag-team.
 
I guess I'm the only one that thinks that Darren Young is better than Titus, I think he has the overall better look, skill set and is better on the mic. Before they became a team he was fueding with Titus forever on NXT and he always impressed me more. I think Titus is ok but i think Darren can be really good, but somewhere along the line he became a big time joke, it's probably because Titus is older and Darren's just following his lead but he needs to get his head out of his ass because i believe in the kid.
 
I guess I'm the only one that thinks that Darren Young is better than Titus, I think he has the overall better look, skill set and is better on the mic. Before they became a team he was fueding with Titus forever on NXT and he always impressed me more. I think Titus is ok but i think Darren can be really good, but somewhere along the line he became a big time joke, it's probably because Titus is older and Darren's just following his lead but he needs to get his head out of his ass because i believe in the kid.

I'm with you, I've always liked Darren way more than Titus. Titus is a physical specimen but that's absolutely it. Besides being a big guy, he shows me nothing. Darren though, I'm not saying he's main event material, but I see him more charismatic and a better worker. At least he could be a decent smarmy mid card heel. A little sneakiness in the way of Rick Martel, Honky Tonk Man? Why not?
 

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