Proof that WWE could do a brand split now

ASKane

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WWE currently has 2 shows and 1 brand and has titles losing prestige as a result and the brand split seems the best way to do it but WWE seems reluctant to did it but after a bit of research and planning I have been able to prove that WWE is not just capable of doing a brand split but they have all the necessary resources at their disposal to do it now. I have kept the same GM's because its easy and I would have tag team and divas titles on each. I have broken up a few teams and used NXT guys but this is the roster I have come up with.

RAW
GM: Brad Maddox
WWE Title Guys: CM Punk, Daniel Bryan, Sheamus, Big Show and Cody Rhodes

US Title and Mid Card Guys: Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Jack Swagger, Christian, Fandango, Bray Wyatt, Sami Zayn, Xavier Woods, Corey Graves, Curtis Axel, Goldust and Santino Marella

Tag Teams: Uso's, Wyatt Family and Los Matadores

Divas: AJ Lee, Natalya, Tamina and Summer Rae

Smackdown
GM: Vickie Guerroro
WHC guys: Randy Orton, John Cena, Alberto Del Rio, Rey Mysterio and Antonio Cesaro

IC Title and Midcard Guys: Roman Reigns, Dolph Ziggler, Big E Langston, Kofi Kingston, Ryback, Tyson Kidd, Bo Dallas, Leo Kruger, Adrian Neville, Damien Sandow, Tyler Breeze and Zack Ryder

Tag Teams: PTP, Acension and Tons of Funk

Divas: Paige, Kaitlyn, Layla and Naomi

That creates 2 27 person roster which would allow WWE to bring back the draft and the Bragging Rights PPV. The Brands could also create tag team from mid carders to improve the divisions. It could also create an NXT draft where each brand picks 3 NXT stars to draft to the main roster. If there is anyone I have missed there is probably a good reason for it, I don't think they are needed
 
So you would have the wwe champion on smackdown?
im guessing you expected daniel bryan to win the wwe championship, randy should stay on raw, the only reason i would even be hyped to see a brand split is the wwe draft other than that the brand split wasn't all that.
 
WWE isn't going back to the brand split. The brand split really only seems to exist for the purpose of house shows. According to various reports, that's the primary reason why the WHC is still active. In my opinion, WWE doesn't need the WHC as all they'd have to do is really elevate the IC title to a higher spot. After all, a lot of people think of the WHC as the true mid-card title these days anyhow.

As far as a brand split itself, it wouldn't be 6 months before forums on various sites would be crammed with threads calling for an end to the brand split. When the split was going on, there seemed to be at about 1 thread every other week in which the primary purpose of the OP was to voice displeasure with the brand split and that it should end. I see no reason to believe that it'd be any different if the brand split returned as internet fans live to complain about one thing or another. Sometimes the complaints are justified and sometimes they're voiced just for the sheer joy of it.
 
So you would have the wwe champion on smackdown?
im guessing you expected daniel bryan to win the wwe championship, randy should stay on raw, the only reason i would even be hyped to see a brand split is the wwe draft other than that the brand split wasn't all that.

The WWE title is clearly there main title and that's why I put it on Raw. The rosters can change and don't have to be like this, this is just proof that WWE has the resources to do it
 
The WWE title is clearly there main title and that's why I put it on Raw. The rosters can change and don't have to be like this, this is just proof that WWE has the resources to do it

yeah thanks captain obvious i knew that, but you have the wwe champion randy orton on smackdown!
and you can't have the championship on it without the champion!
 
I loved the Brand Split ... I know a lot of people hated it but I loved it for the sole reason that it felt like WWE was giving me two different shows. Different superstars, different storylines, etc. And these Superstars would only cross paths at joint PPV (Come on who could forget the huge pops when JBL and Triple H dumped into each other at WM21, or when Cena interrupted Orton's Promo at Summerslam 2004).

It felt like you were never bored because you had two different shows and it felt special during the Royal Rumble. However once we got more "trades", "contract expiration", "superstars jumping to one show etc", it got kind of boring. You weren't seeing separate storylines anymore and the special moment of interbrand matches, royal rumbles were gone.

My point is, I wouldn't mind a Brand Split but the WWE needs to make sure its a hard split. If not don't bother.
 
"WWE currently has 2 shows and 1 brand and has titles losing prestige as a result and the brand split seems the best way to do it but WWE seems reluctant to did it but after a bit of research and planning I have been able to prove that WWE is not just capable of doing a brand split but they have all the necessary resources at their disposal to do it now. I have kept the same GM's because its easy and I would have tag team and divas titles on each. I have broken up a few teams and used NXT guys but this is the roster I have come up with. "

Dude, there is no way a Brand Split would help bring the titles back to respectability. Imo the original brand split is what started this long slide of devaluation we see now, and no titles were affected more than the Tag-Titles. The entire Division pretty much fell off a cliff right after the first brand Split. Every year tag-Teams were getting split up by the draft, and on top of that, how can you expect the WWE to support 2 sets of Tag-Titles, when they can't even get one right? How could the WWE support 2 Divas Titles? We just saw that not a few years ago. The answer is they didn't.

IMO nothing good came out of the first brand split, because it was never real competition and whenever something got hot on SD they would move it to Raw and that is the exact same thing that would happen today. To me the Brand Split would just be a lazy gimmick. The WWE needs to improve their storytelling if they want to get things over, not more gimmicky crap.
 
No way. Brand split was the worst era of WWE, anyone remember those "great" brand split ppv's the ones with the first half of the card devoted to jobbers, glorified Smackdown/Sunday Night Heat worthy cards. Back when Raw was so thin we had to have months of Triple H vs Nash headline Raw ppv's and shows. Or when for years Undertaker wasn't on Raw just to try and get people to watch Smackdown. Or how because of the brand split we didn't see a feud between Brock & Triple H while both were still in their prime, or a HBK Brock feud, it was a no good time in WWE, everyone wished it to be done with while it was going on.

Oh and to mention Raw having all the divas and Smackdown having all the lighweights. Also when Smackdown had Brock, Hogan, Flair, Undertaker, Big Show, Rock, Angle, Mysterio, and Raw had Triple H and Scott Steiner headline Royal Rumble & No Way Out, then Triple H and Nash headline half a summer..
 
The brand-split can definitely be pulled off. There is a lot of talent on the roster and having two separate shows allows certain wrestlers more time. Moreover, it should, in theory, make each show more entertaining as it is unique.

With top guys like Cena, Orton, Punk, Bryan, Sheamus we have top star power. Then there are guys like Ziggler,The Miz, Sandow, Rhodes, Ryback, Big E, Axel, The Shield, Del Rio just below with are talented or have the potential to be a top star. If it were up to me there would be a brand-split but unfortunately it isn't and their won't be.
 
Even WITH a brand split, there should be only one world champion. The WWE Champion should be the champion of the entire WWE, not just half of it.

A brand split can be done, but I think the idea of making RAW and SmackDown equal is dead.

Instead what they should do is a casual brand split where RAW be the main eventer show focusing the big names like Cena, Punk, Orton, and Bryan, and certain "important midcarders" like The Shield, Rhodes, Miz and Ziggler. Let SmackDown be the midcarder show where midcard guys get to have real storylines and fueds and the focus is on guys like Axel, Sandow, Fandango, Real Americans, Big E and the lower card guys like Ryder, JTG, etc. Guys can still show up on both shows, but it's only done for the sake of keeping the big names from fighting each other all the time. A guy like Zack Ryder would get decent screen time on SmackDown but would be a jobber on RAW. Daniel Bryan would be a primary focus on RAW, but showing up on SmackDown would just be a "special guest appearance" where he merely wrestles and beats a random midcard guy.
 
This is the perfect time to do a brand split and here's what you need:

Put JOHN CENA on Smackdown! Thats more than enough credibility on the "B" show which wasn't a B show when The Rock, Lesnar, Angle, Batista or Undertaker were featured.

Make tag teams the only non-exclusive Superstars on the roster so they can wrestle on both shows.

Buy TNA (use their entire X-Division on Smackdown and divvy the rest of their talent in the draft)
 
Ah, man. I hate the brand split with a passion. WHenever you have four belts, their going to go down in value. Doesn't matter if the split is on or no.

What they should do is get rid of one of the singles titles or turn it into a division that matters, like the Hardcore title or cruiserwieght title.
 
I was just thinking about how these wrestling companies grew. And I got an idea for this brand split. I don't know how many of you will agree with me, but hear me out.

How about you divide the WWE into two brands based on the regions? Like, you can give SmackDown the western part of the US and Raw the eastern. That way, you don't only save money on travel and promotions but you also sort of create a loyalty value. Each brand can have a PPV once in two months. That way you get a better build up to each PPV and you get to keep one PPV a month. Also, you can have a PPV just for the sake of getting the two brands together. You can have a PPV of sorts for bragging rights. You have the US champion take on the IC champion, Divas champion take on the Women's champion, World Champion take on the WWE champion and so on. That way, you have an ultimate purpose for a brand split. Also, in my opinion, it'll keep the interest in the company and its product. What do you guys think?
 
They don't need a brand split they need fewer titles with more prestige on the ones they keep.

It used to be 3 titles and everyone was happy... WWE, IC, Tag.. US and WHC are relicks of WCW and there is no reason for them to still exist Today.
 
The brand split would be a massive mistake brought back... If anything along those lines takes place, Vince should buy TNA, rename it WCW and have them as seperate companies. Just as he should have done in 2001.

The problem with the split was it was never a "hard" split, there were always too many crossovers and it never felt like 2 companies or even 2 rosters. Had they gone with the WCW being seperate, totally seperate accounts, TV deals etc then it would have made the eventual invasions and crossovers more valuable.

Do that with TNA today and you have an element of 2nd developmental fed if they keep it as TNA - rename it WCW, send Jericho, Shane, Rey and a few others over to run it and you have a viable 2nd company, with at least some tie to it's past. Shane has plenty of cash from the China deal, Jericho has links to Tim Tebow and his cash rich buddies and they have their own talent pool from their Sports Centre.

If you're gonna do anything do that... SD v RAW was a bust.
 
The brand split would be a massive mistake brought back... If anything along those lines takes place, Vince should buy TNA, rename it WCW and have them as seperate companies. Just as he should have done in 2001.

The problem with the split was it was never a "hard" split, there were always too many crossovers and it never felt like 2 companies or even 2 rosters. Had they gone with the WCW being seperate, totally seperate accounts, TV deals etc then it would have made the eventual invasions and crossovers more valuable.

Do that with TNA today and you have an element of 2nd developmental fed if they keep it as TNA - rename it WCW, send Jericho, Shane, Rey and a few others over to run it and you have a viable 2nd company, with at least some tie to it's past. Shane has plenty of cash from the China deal, Jericho has links to Tim Tebow and his cash rich buddies and they have their own talent pool from their Sports Centre.

If you're gonna do anything do that... SD v RAW was a bust.

This is not possible.

Vince cant buy TNA and make it WCW because TNA has no audience. No one cares about TNA. And for the "New WCW" to get fans behind it and be successfull Vince would had to connect it some way or another with the WWE and use the WWE logo etc and advertise it on Raw etc. With all that and with the exposure on the Internet these days people would know that "New WCW" ist just another WWE brand. And at some point or another they would ask for a WWE vs New WCW PPV or something like that and "New WCW" would end up like the "New ECW" and fail completely!

Also with the WWE Network there is no way Vince would leave the "New WCW" on Spike or another network and not make it part of his own.... So there is absolutely no need and it also makes no sense for WWE to purchase TNA and keep it alive even with a WCV or ECW or whatever gimmick.

Even if Vince decided to buy TNA just to close it (like he did with WCW) it also makes no sense. Because the value of TNAs Video Footage is irrelevant! Who cares to buy old TNA PPVs??? And i dont talk about TNA Fanboys... i talk about the "casual" WWE Fan who has never even heard about tNA!!!!!! WWE does not need TNAs Archives. And there is also no reason to buy TNA to get the contracts of some of their Talents. Because lets be serious... if TNA goes out of air what other option do guys like Bobby Roode, Aries, Styles, Jeff Hardy, Kurt Angle, Magnus, Sting, Samoa Joe, Storm, Parks/Abyss etc have? It would either be WWE or the Indies. The real question is ... Is WWE even interested in ANY of those guys???

Well Sting for a final PPV match although.. the fact that he is jobing in TNA to guys like Magnus is hurting his credibility BADLY! TNA should had used Sting like WWE does use the Undertaker. Bring him back for BFG and Slammiversary and make him beat everyone up to bring back some "mystery" around him... Now hes just another "Legend".

Maybe also Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy and Bully Ray (with Devon) for a final run before they all enter the REAL Hall of Fame...

IMO Samoa Joe, Bobby Roode and Magnus are 3 names that could have future success in WWE. Everyone else is just too old... too much TNA branded... or just not interesting anymore. And yes i know Roode and Joe are also TNA guys... but Roode IMO has the biggest chance to become a WWE star if used right since he has all the Package! And Samoa Joe is someone who even if WWE fans do not know him he could very fast make a name for himself with his look and his in ring ability. Also imagine CM Punk vs Joe! Punk has stated that if he could choose an opponent to fight it would be Samoa Joe.

And because of his age, looks, skills and past WWE Experience... Magnus could also be usefull to WWE. But i doubt he could become a major star. I mean if WWE cant make Wade Barrett a star then i doubt that Magnus has bigger chances...

So... NO! WWE does NOT need to buy TNA. Not to make it "WCW"... and even not to shut it down and keep the archives and roster.
 
I would love for the Brand Extension to return to the WWE. Two is always better than one.

Raw
General Manger – Hulk Hogan
WWE Champion
Intercontinental Champion

Smackdown
General Manager – Ric Flair
World Champion
United States Champion

WWE
Unified WWE World Tag Team Champions
Divas Champion

Smackdown should be increased to 3 hours or Raw should be reduced to 2 hours, one or the other. I say reduce Raw back to 2 hours. I don’t think bringing back the World Tag Team Championship and the Women’s Championship is such a good idea anymore, considering the number of Tag Teams SuperStars and Divas are at about 10 in each division. So in this case, I think having the Unified WWE World Tag Team Champions and the Divas Champion as the only cross-branding Champions works out better.

I understand why there are some against this idea, but quite frankly I think the best time in the WWE was from during the Brand Split.
 
WWE could do a brand split if they wanted. There is enough talent. There was enough talent before the invasion angle too. They ran three shows in a day throughout the 80's and 90's.

The question is, do they want to and is it best for business. Not having the brand split allows them to put all of the top talent on all shows, but still break up the house shows into two's.
 
My idea would be to flip the brand split idea. Instead of shows having a roster and champs can go back and forth, keep the champions on 1 show and the rest of the roster can move about the brands. Allowing them to challenge for which ever title they want to go after.
 
Wwe should do a brand split now because they have such a big roster and I feel that it would so much better then what it is now. You have Nxt but just keep that spectate from he main roster, I would have 2 main titles, 2 midcard titles a diva title and tag titles and on the raw side of things I'd have:

Raw
Wwe Title - Brock Lesner
Intercontinental Title - Dolph Ziggler

Smackdown
Wwe World Title - Cm Punk
United States Title - Sheamus (Heel)

Tag Titles - The USO (Both Brands)
Diva Title - Paige (Both Brands)
Now the Diva Title & Tag Titles are allowed on both shows and wherever the champs lose they must stays there, I've added cm punk to the smackdown brand to give it that star power. Guys for the future will go to smackdown and The Shield will stays on raw but they've broken up so push Reigns into the main event scenes and have ambrose/rollins feud together, Cena can be on raw because he's the face. Cesaro ortan Sandow Punk are on Smackdown to build up great story telling. They can have 1 ppv a month and then have all four together because the roster is so deep it would be so much better tbh.
 
I think WWE could try the brand extension again, but a little bit differently this time. I think they were onto something when they had the tag team champions appear on both brands. I think they should also have their two main brands (Raw and Smackdown) and both rosters can contend for the WWE World Heavyweight Championship and WWE World Tag Team Championship. However, inside each brand, there should be 2 exclusive titles:
• WWE RAW Championship
• WWE SMACKDOWN Championship

Yeah, the names might sound silly now, but in the future, they' will make sense. In the territory days, each federation had their own champion with the name of the company, but they all shared one NWA World Champion. If each brand is going to have their own champ, he should be named after the brand itself.

If they did this starting in 2015, it should be like this:

WWE Raw:

Raw Commissioner: Hulk Hogan
Raw Announce Team: Michael Cole, Jerry Lawler & JBL
Raw Ring Announcer: Justin Roberts
Raw Backstage Interviewers: Renee Young, Byron Saxton

Raw PPVs:
• Payback [May 10]
• Elimination Chamber (RAW#2) [Jun 21]
• SummerSlam [Aug 23]
• Tables, Ladders & Chairs [Oct 4]
• Unforgiven [Nov 15]
• New Year's Revolution [Jan 4]

Raw Championship contenders:
• John Cena, Roman Reigns, Dean Ambrose, Kane & Jack Swagger (faces)
• Seth Rollins, Randy Orton, Stardust, Rusev & Mark Henry (heels)

WWE Intercontinental Championship contenders:
• Adrian Neville, Heath Slater, Adam Rose, Goldust & The Great Khali (faces)
• Xavier Woods, Tyler Breeze, Brad Maddox, Titus O'Neil & Bo Dallas (heels)

Raw Tag Teams (Contend for WWE World Tag Team Championship):
• The Usos, Enzo & Big Cass (faces)
• The Ascension, Kofi & Big E (heels)

Raw Divas (Contend for WWE Diva's Championship):
• AJ Lee, Naomi, Tamina & Bailey
• Paige, Nikki Bella, Cameron & Sasha Banks
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WWE Smackdown:

Smackdown Commissioner: Sting
Smackdown Announce Team: Tom Phillips, William Regal & Paul Heyman
Smackdown Ring Announcer: Lillian Garcia
Smackdown Backstage Interviewers: Rich Brennan, Brandi Rhodes

Smackdown PPVs:
• Backlash [Apr 19]
• Extreme Rules [May 31]
• Vengeance [Aug 2]
• No Mercy [Sep 13]
• Survivor Series [Oct 25]
• Starrcade [Dec 6]

Smackdown Championship contenders:
• Daniel Bryan, Cesaro, Dolph Ziggler, Ryback & Bad News Barrett (faces)
• Sheamus, Bray Wyatt, The Big Show, The Miz & Christian (heels)

WWE United States Championship contenders:
• Sami Zayn, Rey Mysterio, Curtis Axel, Darren Young & Santino Marella (faces)
• Damien Sandow, David Otunga, Fandango, R-Truth, & Zack Ryder (heels)

Smackdown Tag Teams (Contend for WWE World Tag Team Championship):
• Sin Cara & Kalisto, International Airstrike (faces)
• The Wyatt Family, Los Matadores (heels)

Smackdown Divas (Contend for WWE Diva's Championship):
• Brie Bella, Natalya, Bailey & Rosa Mendes
• Summer Rae, Layla, Charlotte & Alicia Fox
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WWE World Heavyweight Champion: Brock Lesnar
Part-Timers: The Rock, Chris Jericho, Rob Van Dam, Batista, Triple H

Dual-Branded PPVs:
• Royal Rumble [Jan 25]
• Night of Champions [Feb 22]
• WrestleMania [Mar 29]
• Money in the Bank [Jul 12]
 
WWE should definitely not bring back the brand split anytime soon. It would have been a bad idea back when this thread was first created nearly a year ago and it would still be a bad idea today. They have no need to have two different GM's right now when the authority can run everything fine. They cannot generate enough interest in the US and Intercontinental Championships. They barely give enough attention to the Tag Team Championships and the Divas Championships. Would those both be dual-branded? Not the best idea. The roster is large enough to where the current title structure can work, but not enough to create a second set of title tiers for Smackdown. The days of when that format worked are 5+ years behind us now. Smackdown should be used for the wrestlers who did not make it onto Raw that week. Give the midcard and possibly the tag team divisions more exposure there rather than play so many Raw recaps.
 
I would definitely bring back the Brand Extension with the amount of talent WWE has ATM and it could possibly work if you put the future of the wwe on Smackdown with a bit of veterans and the same could be said for Raw as well, my Brand Split would be:

Wwe Raw:
Raw Commissioner: Ric Flair
Raw Announce Team: Jim Ross & Jerry Lawler
Raw Ring Announcer: Justin Roberts

Raw Pay Per Views:
Backlash (April)
King Of The Ring (June, with Smackdown)
Unforgiven (September)
Armageddon (December)

Title Holders:
Wwe Title: Brock Lesnar
Intercontinetal Title: Dolph Ziggler
Tag Team Titles: The Miz & Damien Mizdow (defended on Smackdown as well)
Women's Title: Nikki Bella (defended in Smackdown)

Roster:
John Cena, Brock Lesnar, Roman Reigns, Daniel Bryan, The Miz, Damien Mizdow, Bray Wyatt, Luke Harper, Fandango, The Uso, R-Truth, Christian, Kane, Rey Mysterio Mark Henry, Adrien Neville, Sami Zayne, Sin Cara, Curtis Axel, David Otunga, Paige, The Bella's, Aj Lee, Emma.

Smackdown:
Smackdown Commissioner: Mick Foley
Smackdown Announce Team: Michael Cole & JBL
Smackdown Ring Announcer: Lillian Garcia

Title Holders:
World Heavyweight Title: Randy Orton
Us Title: Rusev
Tag Team Titles: The Miz & Damien Mizdow (defended on Raw
Women's Title: Nikki Bella (defended on Raw)

Pay Per Views:
No Way Out: (February)
Judgement Day: (May)
King of the Ring: (June, with Raw)
No Mercy: (October)

Roster:
Randy Orton, Seth Rollins, Dean Ambrose, Cm Punk, Chris Jericho, Luke Harper, Big Show, Ryback, The New Day, Rusev, The Miz & Damien Mizdow, Tyson Kidd, Cesaro, Zack Ryder, Xavier Woods, Kevin Owens, Leo Cruger, Sheamus, Finn Balor, Hideo Itami, Bayley, Charrlotte, Tamina, Alicia Foxx, Natalya.

Joint Pay Perviews:
Royal Rumble: (January)
WrestleMania: (Late March/ Early April)
King Of The Ring: (June)
Summerslam: (August)
Survivor Series: (November)
 

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