"PG" kissing? Please check this out guys....

[~Heup©~]

I have an issue with wwe television. They tell us that we are in a "PG" era. Ok? With that said why is that my son should be allowed to watch Fandango slip the tongue to 2 different divas within a 10 minute segment but he is not allowed to see a man get hit in the back of the head with a chair? I as a fan would much rather see some brutal tail whippins then some make out sessions.

If i may borrow a line from Chair Shot Reality, Please Vince, PLEASE stop allowing this nonsense if we are to be trapped in your so called "PG" era of television. How is sexuality any different then violence? I mean i know the obvious answer but come on now guys...

True wrestling fans tune in every monday and most fridays (if you havent already read the spoilers from tuesdays tapings and actually care to see whats happening) to see fully grown men beat it each other back and forth across a squared circle. So again i ask, why is this ok? I dont think tongue tieing completely fits into a "PG" rating. I certainly dont see that stuff happening in any other "PG" rated shows i view with my son.

All im saying is please bring back the all out butt kicking and toss the kissing in the trash. Im not tuneing in to see who wants to get in Fahhnnn-dahnn-gooos pants. Im not blaming him, hes an amazing athlete whom i feel is getting the short end of the stick with creative. Dont get me wrong, he def gets his on screen time in but its not the way id like to see it...

Does no one agree?

 

[The Brain]

I have an issue with wwe television. They tell us that we are in a "PG" era. Ok? With that said why is that my son should be allowed to watch Fandango slip the tongue to 2 different divas within a 10 minute segment

Because you allow him to. If you don't want your son to watch don't let him watch. The show has a PG rating. PG stands for Parental Guidance. This means it is suitable for general viewing but some parts may not be suitable for young children. You're the P in PG so it's up to you what you want your son to watch.

but he is not allowed to see a man get hit in the back of the head with a chair? I as a fan would much rather see some brutal tail whippins then some make out sessions.

The PG rating has nothing to do with chair shots to the head. That has been banned to protect the wrestlers. Everyone in every sport is very protective against concussions now. Between that and Benoit the decision has been made to not allow chair shots. Nothing to do with PG.

True wrestling fans tune in every monday and most fridays (if you havent already read the spoilers from tuesdays tapings and actually care to see whats happening) to see fully grown men beat it each other back and forth across a squared circle. So again i ask, why is this ok? I dont think tongue tieing completely fits into a "PG" rating. I certainly dont see that stuff happening in any other "PG" rated shows i view with my son.

PG does not mean you should expect to see Sesame Street. There are plenty of PG shows that feature two people kissing. Hell, Uncle Jesse and Aunt Becky used to kiss in Full House all the time.

All im saying is please bring back the all out butt kicking and toss the kissing in the trash. Im not tuneing in to see who wants to get in Fahhnnn-dahnn-gooos pants. Im not blaming him, hes an amazing athlete whom i feel is getting the short end of the stick with creative. Dont get me wrong, he def gets his on screen time in but its not the way id like to see it...

Does no one agree?

There is plenty of butt kicking. We don't need chair shots to the head. WWE is physical enough without them. It's not like the storyline with Fandango is anything new. That kind of angle has taken place in every era of wrestling.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Hep C - that ship sailed years ago. If you are just figuring this out now I don't know what to tell you. WWE has taken the position to not promote what they believe to be strikes that put their talent at risk of head injuries. They are comfortable with "graphic" kissing. You may want to consider recording the program and watching the segments with your son that meet your approval.

How old is this kid that you are letting his stay up until 11pm to watch Raw? Besides kissing what else offends you?

 

[Spidey Revivey]

Why are we equating a PG rating with child friendly? Fucking Airplane! is rated PG, and that had boobs and inflatables giving each other head.

It's your fault for letting your kid watch the dreaded smooching scene, which you will find in many PG movies. God forbid wrestling gets outted for something else impractical.

 

[~Heup©~]

OK. All points made I accept and were already aware of. I used chair shots as an example and with your points I have to admit was not a very good one and for that I apologize. I was simply attempting to state that the attitude era was awesome and since it has ended WWE seems to be watered down, at least to me. The general "excuse" is that the rating has changed. I guess I just don't understand exactly what WWE is comfortable with airing. I never saw anyone on full house tongueing it up the way I saw Dango and Summer do it.

My son is 4, we watch raw on dvr Tuesday afternoons. The kissing doesn't offend me at all. Not much offends me. My argument was not so much the fact that my child saw it, I was asking why WWE feels that its OK to show that.

Maybe I'm just a fan who isn't happy with the product anymore and used a terrible reference in attempt to express himself. I love wrestling, I just wish we were in the late 90s again. I can't be the only one, or can I?

Sorry Spidey, the funny thing is I agree with you.

 

[The Dragon Saga]

Maybe I'm just a fan who isn't happy with the product anymore and used a terrible reference in attempt to express himself. I love wrestling, I just wish we were in the late 90s again. I can't be the only one, or can I?

If we were in the late 90's your son would be subjected to Godfather's hoes, Val Venis, Mae Young giving birth to a hand, Goldust... well, being Goldust, Sable, and so much more worse things then two people kissing. Kissing is an everyday occurrence, even the brain of most children knows it is a sign of intimacy or love. As stated it has nothing to do with PG, I think you made this post as a way of you wanting to justify wanting the Attitude Era. I have been reading the exact same post on wrestling forums for the past eight years and I always have the same answer.

It was suitable in the 90's when vulgarity was at its height, but in todays world politically correct is the norm, and for a company trading on the stock market with shareholders, who would prefer to leave their money in their wallets and let sponsors and TV networks fund a majority of the business, that type of entertainment is long gone and dead and is never coming back. Even smaller promotions such as CZW has toned back because it too realized people don't want to see vulgar shit which takes no creativity to do.

 

[sjdigitall]

OK. All points made I accept and were already aware of. I used chair shots as an example and with your points I have to admit was not a very good one and for that I apologize. I was simply attempting to state that the attitude era was awesome and since it has ended WWE seems to be watered down, at least to me. The general "excuse" is that the rating has changed. I guess I just don't understand exactly what WWE is comfortable with airing. I never saw anyone on full house tongueing it up the way I saw Dango and Summer do it.

My son is 4, we watch raw on dvr Tuesday afternoons. The kissing doesn't offend me at all. Not much offends me. My argument was not so much the fact that my child saw it, I was asking why WWE feels that its OK to show that.

Maybe I'm just a fan who isn't happy with the product anymore and used a terrible reference in attempt to express himself. I love wrestling, I just wish we were in the late 90s again. I can't be the only one, or can I?

Sorry Spidey, the funny thing is I agree with you.

You do know Smackdown was PG during the attitude era. The rating has nothing to do with WWEs problems today which include a lack of interesting characters, little to no storylines, a midcard that is not over, no megastars. The rating is not as important as these problems.

 

[oldschool123]

I have an issue with wwe television. They tell us that we are in a "PG" era. Ok? With that said why is that my son should be allowed to watch Fandango slip the tongue to 2 different divas within a 10 minute segment but he is not allowed to see a man get hit in the back of the head with a chair? I as a fan would much rather see some brutal tail whippins then some make out sessions.

If i may borrow a line from Chair Shot Reality, Please Vince, PLEASE stop allowing this nonsense if we are to be trapped in your so called "PG" era of television. How is sexuality any different then violence? I mean i know the obvious answer but come on now guys...

True wrestling fans tune in every monday and most fridays (if you havent already read the spoilers from tuesdays tapings and actually care to see whats happening) to see fully grown men beat it each other back and forth across a squared circle. So again i ask, why is this ok? I dont think tongue tieing completely fits into a "PG" rating. I certainly dont see that stuff happening in any other "PG" rated shows i view with my son.

All im saying is please bring back the all out butt kicking and toss the kissing in the trash. Im not tuneing in to see who wants to get in Fahhnnn-dahnn-gooos pants. Im not blaming him, hes an amazing athlete whom i feel is getting the short end of the stick with creative. Dont get me wrong, he def gets his on screen time in but its not the way id like to see it...

Does no one agree?

I've never heard of anyone getting a concussion from kissing a girl.

Has your son never seen you kiss a woman?

 

[Pedigree1]

I have an issue with wwe television. They tell us that we are in a "PG" era. Ok? With that said why is that my son should be allowed to watch Fandango slip the tongue to 2 different divas within a 10 minute segment but he is not allowed to see a man get hit in the back of the head with a chair? Because you allow your son to see it,also the chair shots to the dome went out years ago.

If i may borrow a line from Chair Shot Reality, Please Vince, PLEASE stop allowing this nonsense if we are to be trapped in your so called "PG" era of television. PG doesn't mean rated G its PG. Parental Guidance so its up to you,as a dad to decide to let your kid watch wrestling or not!

True wrestling fans tune in every monday and most fridays (if you havent already read the spoilers from tuesdays tapings and actually care to see whats happening) I sometimes read the spoilers and still Tune in. If you think the kissing is offensive then truly,you must have forgotten the Attitude Era and the Live Sex Celebration with Edge and Lita. A little tonsil Hockey is nothing compared to what occurred years ago..

All im saying is please bring back the all out butt kicking and toss the kissing in the trash. Just Curious obviously the make out sessions offend you,what else does??

Does no one agree? Short Answer no Long Answer NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I've been reading over the responses and I'm not all that certain as to what the point the OP was trying to make.

If the OP was a fan of the Attitude Era, yet is upset that his son saw Fandango locking lips, albeit in a passionate manner, then I'm not exactly sure what the point is. As others have pointed out, the Attitude Era's depiction of sexuality was FAR more graphic than anything WWE has done in the past 7 or 8 years. During the days of the AE right on up through the mid 2000s, it wasn't uncommon to see women paraded around in as little as was legally possible to wear and treated as, literally, nothing more than sex objects.

There were a few times in which WWE Diva Sable came out wearing a pair of stilletos, a G-string, black tape covering her nipples and that's it.

I remember a time in which Vince McMahon "forced" Trish Stratus to strip down to her bra & panties while Vince essentially "forced" himself on her in the center of the ring.

There were video segments of Marlena, AKA Terri Runnells, "in bed" with Val Venis that was shown on the Titantron while she was still married to Goldust.

Speaking of Goldust, I recall Goldust being beaten up in a street fight with Roddy Piper at WrestleMania XII in which his ring gear was ripped off revealing he was wearing women's lingerie beneath.

I distinctly remember a segment in which Val Venis was "held hostage" backstage by Kai En Tai, shown strung up while one of them "chopped off" his penis with a katana.

Often times, when D-Generation X was out, Shawn Michaels & Triple H would be able to convince hot girls in the audience to flash their breasts, or HBK & Trips would moon the audience.

Let's see...oh, and there's also the all time classic moment where Triple H, mocking Kane, is depicted as "having sex" with a corpse by the name of Katie Vick.

The days of over the top sexuality in WWE are gone as are segments in which women are essentially treated with less respect than the average blow up doll receives. As has also been mentioned in regards to violence, WWE has changed some aspects for the better in most people's opinions. When you consider WWE's intense schedule and that the vast majority of the matches are you standard, non gimmick match, they get banged up, bruised and flat out injured as it, so it'd just be all that much worse tossing in some of the over the top violence of the Attitude Era. One reason why chair shots to the head are no longer seen is due to the backlash of the Chris Benoit murder/suicide. WWE was raked over the coals, and rightly so, for turning a blind eye to issues of drug use and head trauma among talent. People were so outraged that Congress itself was considering stepping in and regulating WWE, which essentially means they were considering bending Vince McMahon over and making him its collective bitch unless he was able to convince them they shouldn't. A lot of the over the top violence was done away with and WWE's Wellness Policy was implemented.

Bleeding, for instance, was something that I never really thought was a big deal when I was watching during the Attitude Era. However, that was before I came to realize that bleeding all over someone else and/or getting their blood all over you is a prime way to spread infectious diseases.

Another poster mentioned Hepatitis C as an example and with good reason. Indie wrestler Devon Nicholson, AKA Hannibal, won a lawsuit against Abdullah the Butcher early this month for $2.3 million due to Abdullah having contracted Hep C, not informing anyone about it, bled all over Nicholson in a match sometime in either 2008 or 2009, and Nicholson caught the disease. That same year, Nicholson was offered a contract by WWE but the contract was rescinded when it was discovered that he had Hep C. As a result, the guy's career was sidelined for the better part of 5 years.

Another good example took place back in 2005 during Randy Orton's feud with The Undertaker, in which Orton's father, Bob Orton, Sr. was part of the picture. Bob Orton bled all over Taker and Orton had been diagnosed with it in his teens. Taker didn't know about it and Orton alleges that he told John Laurinaitis that he had the disease but said it was okay to do the blading segment anyhow. Taker managed to avoid being infected and, reportedly, flipped out backstage once he heard that Orton had Hep C. Orton was fired soon thereafter. I dunno if Big Johnny knew about it or not, but since nothing happened to him, I guess there was no way to prove he knew about Orton's condition.

 

[faltemer]

Because it would be rated PG on any show? That's how rating's work WWE does their show, and the rating company gives them a rating. They know what PG entails and so they do all they can given those parameters.

Acting like WWE makes the ratings up themselves is delusional, and I don't understand what the problem is, i watched the segment and frankly kissing like that is seen on kids show (Albeit usually with animated or drawn characters)

What kind of parents would prefer their child see blood and violence from chair shots to the head over mild kissing?

 

[~Heup©~]

Jeez, lol. Guys the fact that they kissed was never the problem. As I pointed out already that was just an example and all those things listed that occurred in the attitude era I'm totally fine with my son seeing. Like I said I just miss the previous era of WWE. Sorry I got you guys in such an uproar over my opinion.

"You do know Smackdown was PG during the attitude era. The rating has nothing to do with WWEs problems today which include a lack of interesting characters, little to no storylines, a midcard that is not over, no megastars. The rating is not as important as these problems."
This is exactly the issue, thanks for finding the words I couldn't.

 

[LBGetBack]

LMAO.

I "get" what you're saying on a wrestling fan level. Truly, I do.

But step back and think about it. Kissing a girl, or bashing someone's brains in with a metal chair. Which is the more normal, socially appropriate, kind action?

 

[~Heup©~]

Thanks for "getting" it lol. Obviously I know the difference between the two, I already stated that it was a terrible reference. But honestly I just wish we could get back to the good old days which I'm also aware will never happen.

 

[madness1992]

This is ridiculous to me. You have said that you DVR it, problem solved. Beyond that, I've never understood this countries obsession with violence and fear of sex. One leads to pleasure and life, the other leads to misery and death. Find some war footage to show your kid, if it's that important to you.

 

[Slash-LN]

If you want to see some "brutal tail whipping" then watch a shitty ultra violent company like CZW. I'm sure you can find that stuff on YouTube.

The Attitude era is gone and honestly there's no reason to bring it back. Yeah it was cool at the time and it's nice to be able to go back and watch the old stuff but what is WWE missing now that they could have gotten away with back then that would actually help the quality of the show? What TV14 rated stuff could make the current wrestlers better?

 

[GeneralKarim]

It's your job to decide as a parent what your kid is allowed to see on TV.

This is just another glorified, useless piece of trash thread from an emotionally unstable 30-40 yo who can't think of better ways to spend his day than to think about how cool it would be if wrestlers got hep-c, got conccusions and end up insane and ofc if they would curse...curse a whole bunch, that always adds to the product ( I mean just imagine how cool it would have been if Roman Reigns said instead of "Ass of the company" to "Orton, you motherfucker, when I get ma hands on you, I 'm gonna bitch slap datass and your cute wife? she be riding ma d*ck and catching dem ropes all night long WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO and I be hearing all kinds of voices from her" )! Quality parenting dude.

If you don't like it don't watch. Making stupid threads on the internet won't change the product. If anything, if you really wanted to start a discussion about something that shouldn't even be disscused anymore, you could have come up with a different approach, a more neutral one instead of this "let me start out by saying something and then get into what I really wanna talk about" stick u just pulled.