Over The Limit PPV - Championship Scrambles?

[TJWWE]

Over the past couple of years, WWE have been using their PPV's as a one night only thing with MITB having 2 ladder matches, TLC having a tables, ladders, chairs and tlc match and so on.

I was looking over the PPV's and realising that WWE Payback and Over The Limit doesn't really have a meaning to it and doesn't bring any concepts so I was thinking, perhaps OTL could feature championship scrambles because they will be reaching their limits in order to win or retain a championship. I wouldn't have all matches as Championship scrambles, just the WWE, WHC and either IC, US or Divas title.

Do you think this is a good idea?

 

[Johnny Scumm]

I'd just have two Scramble matches, the WHC & WWE Titles. I loved the Championship Scramble match when Mike Adamle invented it & thought it was absolutely genius, calling for some extremely convoluted booking. I think it would be nice to have in the PPV, just to add to it. Maybe they'd use it at the new PPV "Payback" though, who knows?

 

[Redemption-2012]

Scramble matches don't sell PPV'S. I would just stick to the WWE and World Title matches and just keep the traditional concept.

 

[MCMG]

Scramble matches don't sell PPV'S. I would just stick to the WWE and World Title matches and just keep the traditional concept.

It completely depends on who is on the match. I would be more likely to buy OTL if i was guaranteed two Scramble matches for world titles. These matches were different, something new; but the WWE for whatever reason dropped it.

A scramble match is going to be exciting, there is a greater chance of the champion loosing the belt and we may see someone completely new in a world title match. Brian Kendrick has been in a world title match with HHH. That is not going to happen with a regular singles match. I'm not suggesting he should be in the main-event but it is refreshing to see.

If they brought it back some superstar who doesn't get much TV time could be placed into a world title match. That is what many fans want to see - a change and something refreshing. These matches also have potential to create feuds as there are 5 guys that may pin or get pinned by someone they have never previously faced.

I would definitely love to see the return of the Championship scramble match and if it made a regular PPV more appealing to the viewer than it should be a possibility.

 

[vampirek]

I'd just have two Scramble matches, the WHC & WWE Titles. I loved the Championship Scramble match when Mike Adamle invented it & thought it was absolutely genius, calling for some extremely convoluted booking. I think it would be nice to have in the PPV, just to add to it. Maybe they'd use it at the new PPV "Payback" though, who knows?

He didn't invent it and its nothing more than a mix of the Time limit Hardcore matches just that not all wrestlers start the match.

How would Payback fit into a Championship Scramble? If anything they should actually use the PPV to remind themselves to build up feuds so wrestlers have a reason to get payback. Further the last thing we need as a whole is another gimmick PPV, at the moment the WWE title has two wrestlers feuding for it.. three if you throw in Henry but thats it, they'll have to then throw in fillers just to make up the numbers rather than building up a proper feud between the three instead.

I wouldn't mind the Scramble taking place at Night of Champions as a one off for one of the title not both, otherwise it would be overkill and stale like most duplicate matches on PPV.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

It's an interesting idea but, unfortunately, a lot of fans are fickle. That goes especially for internet fans. WWE could probably get away with it for a couple of years before you'd have the IWC bitching about how they want a sense of unpredictability about it. For instance, like Elimination Chamber or HIAC in which the matches have their own ppv and those matches only happen on those shows, the same fans would be griping about the championship scrambles at OTL.

If I was going to do something unique for OTL, now this is just me personally, I'd have a total of maybe 4 matches on the card but each match needs to be built up and made to feel like it's a major attraction. The matches would all be certain gimmick matches billed as tough matches that would physically push the competitors "over the limit". For instance, one match could be something along the lines of an old school grudge match that's 2 out of 3 falls. Another match could be something along the lines of a Falls Count Anywhere match for the WHC. Perhaps another match on the card, maybe for a mid-card title, could be held inside a steel cage. The final match on the card, the WWE Championship match, could be something an iron man match. Each year, to keep things fresh, WWE could alter the kinds of gimmick matches on the card.

They key to this particular ppv would rely a lot on the build, given that there are so few matches. You could toss something onto the card, like maybe a Diva match or a Tons of Funk vs. Epico & Primo bout, that gives people a bit of a chance to catch their breath or hit the restroom or something along those lines. On the surface, it might not sound like it would sell but, personally, I think it would. It offers a little something different, a mix of old school and contemporary gimmick matches in which the matches all feel like they're important.

 

[Dagger Dias]

Again with the Championship Scramble topics? No offense to the threadstarter, but I respectfully have to disagree 100% on this idea.

Look.... That match type SUCKED!!!! There is a reason it has not been seen in what now, almost 5 years? They tried it in 2008 and it was far too complicated. I don't understand why people suddenly want that match type back. I recall it not being very popular when it took place at the Unforgiven 2008 PPV event. It was an extremely complicated match to book and in the end it just did not make any sense. Why do a Championship Scramble when you can just as easily do a 5 man elimination match using the same competitors? I hope it never comes back. MAYBE for a #1 contendership or something but not for an actual championship. My biggest problem of all is that they have to successfuly pin someone, but then survive the rest of the match. If someone becomes a temporary "champion" but then loses it during the same match, it does not become recognized as an official title reign. The stipulation is incredibly stupid. WWE should bring back Breaking Point or December to Dismember before ever thinking about doing Championship Scrambles again. That's how bad it was.

Now then, if that was the threadstarter's idea for Over the Limit, what then could that event showcase for a match type instead? I'd like to see it become home to Iron Man matches. Not every title match though obviously, and not even every year, but when WWE decides to do one again it should be at that event. The annual match type specialty for that PPV needs to be Last Man Standing and I Quit matches. Iron Man matches could be done at that event too though should WWE decide it is time for another one. Match types that involve going over the limit to win. Then there's the 3 Stages of Hell match, that could be another good one. Heck, it could inherit Breaking Point's Submission matches too. Falls Count Anywhere matches.... The list of potential match types goes on and on. Unlike Hell In a Cell, Elimination Chamber, or TLC they are not restricted at Over the Limit. It does not HAVE to feature certain match types due to its name and it is therefore more open for what matches it can be home to. There are plenty of good ideas they could go with and every last one of them is better than a Championship Scramble.

 

[WWE4EVA!]

I would like to see the Championship Scramble Match return and I don`t see why it would not work at Over The Limit, But I don`t think all of the championships should be on the line in this type of match Just the WWE and World Heavyweight Championship.

Another fault I see with this is that WWE does not have five people they are willing to be in a match like this, I mean last summer ADR fought Sheamus at four or five straight Pay Per Views because WWE had not faith in anyone else.

 

[3drinks]

I must be one of the minority who did enjoy the Scrambles; that said, I can see how the booking is convoluted. Perhaps a better approach for them, is to relegate the Scramble match to be for the Intercontinental and United States championships. This helps to make the midcard belts look more prestigious by forcing people to go through more hoops for them (and giving more people a shot at them) and it leads to overal less convoluted booking -- after all, we don't care if Kofi pins Cesaro pins Ryder pins Langston, for example, to get to the desired state.

Anyway, that's my two cents.

 

[Judah's Lion]

i'm not a fan of a ppv event that is devoted entirely to one match. i love gimmick matches when the storyline and the characters call for it. but that topic has been discussed to death and i won't add to it... this time.

i really like the point mentioned by MCMG in that a Championship Scramble match adds some unpredictability and new fresh faces to a title scene. not that every superstar in a Scramble needs to stay long-term in the main event, but it's nice to have a little mix up every once in a while.

and i especially like what Jack and Dagger have to say about Over the Limit as a ppv being wide open. if a ppv is named Hell in a Cell, you expect the main match to be the Hell in a Cell match. obviously. but if your ppv is named Over the Limit, you can have any number of several different types of gimmick matches.

PG Era considered, i still think you can have the following types of gimmick matches at Over the Limit and it'd make sense given the name of the ppv, with the right build, storyline and characters, of course:

Iron Man Match, 3 Stages of Hell Match, Scramble Match, Submission Match, Hell in a Cell Match, Steel Cage Match, Ambulance Match, Stretcher Match, 2/3 Falls Match, Triple Threat/Fatal Fourway/Six-Pack Challenge, etc. any kind of match that really pushes the champion to the limit. again, obviously.

all in all, i don't mind the Championship Scramble match type at all. i would just prefer that it's a part of a ppv event and not made into its own gimmick ppv. that idea either has run or is currently running its course.

 

[HBsam31]

I was just never a big fan of the match, but I suppose it wouldn't bother me if one ppv had both World titles defended that way. It would add a bit of unpredictability to the event. I get the feeling that it would get stale after a few years though. It's a good idea, but I just don't think it would sell ppvs.