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... or ...? #1

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Very simple idea. Thinking of making it a series perhaps depending on the response. We take two wrestlers who performed similar variations of the same move and were successful with it during their career, you decide who's version scores better in various categories.

The Cutter

We start today with a big one:

Randy Orton: In one corner we have the RKO, the finishing move of Randy Orton made famous circa 2003-04 and still used to the present day. It has been locked on anybody and everybody who's walked through the WWE doors for as long as Orton himself as been there, namely legends of wrestling like The Undertaker, Jake Roberts, Sgt. Slaughter, HBK and others.

One of the most devastating finishers in operation today, it almost always signals the end of the match is hit successfully. Renound for it's practicality demonstrated on it's being performed on tables, chairs, the floor, anywhere, this instantly turns it into a deadly move with dire consequences. Most recently performed twice over the announcer table and once on the steel steps both times against Christian, both times driving him loopy.

The Viper signals for his signature move by getting down on the floor and pounding the ground to emphasize his serpentine demeanor. When his opponent hears the beat of his fists they know it's desperation time, stand up and turn around then it's match over.

DDP: It's contestant is the ever-dangerous Diamond Cutter. Touting and equally impressive victim list of victims during it's time in action, the diamond cutter took a very short time to bring it's name into the forefront of professional wrestling. The Giant, Macho Man, even Goldberg on his rise to super-stardom, equally as efficient and usable in any given situation as the RKO.

Perhaps even more well-known than the RKO, though, for it to be used as the perfect reversal to any move. He has countered a top-rope choke-slam into a diamond cutter, a Jack-Hammer, you name it and it probably happened. This added an extra layer of mystique to the move and made it formidable back when the sudden finishers were less common.


Now, the obvious difference between the two is that the RKO involves a jump prior to execution whereas the Diamond Cutter relies on a straight drop from a standing position driving the opponents head into the mat. Whether this makes it any better, you now decide based on the following criteria:

Flair and style - Which version has more character as you see it.

Effectiveness - The more devastating move as it looks.

Formidability and reputation - Which move had built up the more impressive pile of victims. Which one has the more of an aura about it's performance prior to execution.

Execution - Who you think performs his own version of the move better

So go ahead and start rating, and as a reminder here is the match-up:

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This is tough to say as I am a DDP fan and an Orton fan. I like DDP's as it was the original move and he was always inventing how he could pull the move off. It was highly talked about by the commentary team which always thought made the move seem just that much more powerful.

But, for that being said I am going to give this edge to Randy, for he just has that jumping ability to hit men the size of Big Show, Kane, Taker and even Mark Henry and make the move look killer. I think Randy took DDP's idea of trying new ways to counter the move and he just blew it out the water. He can counter it from a Choke slam, top rope splash, and from almost getting pedigreed. For those reason is why I give the edge to Orton.
 
This isn't too difficult for me, I think its hands down the RKO over the diamond cutter.

Although the Diamond Cutter was great I think Orton has perfected it and made it a move that can be hit from any position. DDP could use it quickly and efficiently but the opponent had to be in standing straight in front of him whereas Orton has done it from a million different positions. DDP never hit the diamond cutter on Kidman while he was doing the Shooting Star Press (and he feuded with the flock long enough to where he had the opportunity), Orton has reversed almost every move into the RKO, hit it from the outside while his opponent was inside, hit it mid air and pretty much any other situation.

Randy jumps when he does it to get extra leverage and power while dropping it and has beaten endless superstars with it (but then again so has DDP). Lastly Orton's version looks more believable when he does it, he just does it so well that whenever he hits it you believe its the end of the match just with the leap and the positions he can hit it in.

I liked both but I got to give this one to Randy Orton.
 
I recall hearing DDP had made a series of 52 videos (one for each week of the year), showing him hitting the Cutter from a different position. :shrug:

Just because you reverse a move to put him in position for a diamond cutter doesn't mean its not done the same way every time. I just looked at a few Diamond cutter reels and out of the 100 diamond cutters I saw he did them from 4 positions, 1 from standing position, 1 from firemans carry position, from backbreaker position and 1 from the top rope down (whereas Orton has hit it from about 100 positions). He reversed a lot of moves, put his opponent in standing position to hit the diamond cutter like goldberg has him in a jackhammer, ddp slips out and quickly hits it but its still from the standing position.

Find me this video you speak of where he has 52 different positions for the diamond cutter then come talk to me.
 
For me this one is so close that I am going for the Diamond Cutter based soley on the fact I like DDP a lot more than I like Orton and he did it first. I think both moves are awesome finishers and can get the job done quickly and out of nowhere. I like finishing moves that can be executed to get a wrestler out of a sticky situation or one that can come even when a wrestler is having a bad match and is getting beat then..Bang!! turns it around to get the 1.. 2.. 3.. It makes for a much less predictable ending to a match.

I think even though DDP has and can use the move in different situations Orton has perfected it and made a thing of being able to hit the move at anytime. DDP for me done it with more style whereas Orton does it more as a quick reaction just like a viper.

I am a fan of both but as I said I am going for Steve Austins..oops I mean DDP's version.
 

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