Opinions of Adam Rose & His Gimmick

[Bagpipes]

I personally can't stand Adam Rose's party animal/ Rosebuds gimmick. It seems to me that Rose has shades of in-ring ability, but his gimmick prevents him from ever really showing the abilities that he has.

Rose's best matches seem to happen when he returns to NXT sporadically, where the gimmick is less of the focal point.

Does Rose have a future if he is stuck in his current gimmick?

 

[PrinceMarvel]

Just curious, butvus Adam Rose supposed to be based off of the Greek God Dionysus?

 

[OddManRush]

I really don't see what's wrong with the gimmick. It's entertaining.

What I loved most about the best era of pro wrestling (the Attitude era) was the abundance of different characters. (i.e. The Godfather, Val Venis, the Headbangers, etc.) Everyone wasn't trying to be the same guy. You know the over jacked, wet hair, bad ass that either plays the crowd as the good guy or bad guy. There are so few personalities on this roster that actually make me come back every week. I wouldn't say he's one of them, but he could be if given a proper opportunity for a midcard title run.

This is where the European/Hardcore title allowed some more lower-to-midcarders the opportunity to present their characters and build storylines...not just some random match against a babyface and heel as a match filler. I don't really feel like the US Title is quite that level. When you put the belt on Sheamus, a former World Heavyweight Champion, it gives it that Intercontinental championship equivalency feel. I fully support merging the two belts into one, giving it that upper midcard prestige (just before they reach the main event status) kind of level, and make a new belt for the back end of the card.

 

[Pedigree1]

If Adam Rose is stuck in this gimmick he has absolutely zero chance of getting over.. This gimmick is well not very well thought out.. To me,adam doesn't even enjoy this character how can he? No one is getting behind this gimmick IMHO. If a little darker side would to come out,then maybe this character has life.. But as it stands right now it has a shorter life span than Brays gimmick!

There is only so much partying and bunnies and that stupid Lollipop that can last..

 

[Bagpipes]

I just feel like the audience has no idea who Adam Rose the wrestler is because Adam Rose the Rosebud/Party Animal overshadows any and everything he does in the ring. Maybe altering the gimmick slightly, doing away with the Rosebuds and the parade entrances/backstage segments might help put more focus on the wrestler behind the character rather than just the character itself.

 

[Radical]

Adam Rose and his gimmick is not that bad. It's not great, though, either.

Whenever they have new character like this who seems to be all happy-go-lucky, I always wish they'd let him explain that he likes to have a good time and he wants everyone to join his party but if they don't want to, they are being 'lemons' and he has to put them in their place. That is, basically, what he is doing as a wrestler, but it would be nice to be more clearly stated.

I'd like to see Rose evolve a bit more if he's going with this party gimmick and do less effeminate mannerisms and just more 'funny' or 'having a good time' mannerisms that more guys could relate to.

The guy who portrays Rose is actually a very good wrestler so if he gets more time he can put on a good show.

The gimmick actually has a lot of ways it can go. The Rose character is definitely only mid-card, and that's okay. You can't have everyone shooting to the top card or it gets too crowded.

But with all those "Rosebuds" that come to the ring with him opens up more creative ideas for feuds with Adam Rose. An easy idea is having an opponent who hates the Rosebuds and having some of those men Rosebuds face the opponent in a match, which obviously the main wrestler will win but it will further the feud making Rose more angry that his Rosebuds are losing.

Another idea is having a SURPRISE win by one of the Rosebuds in costume, maybe with a superhero mask, someone from the Main Roster who hasn't had much of a push but they want to give a push to, like Justin Gabriel or Tyson Kidd could dress up, beat the opponent, fans would pop for a "Rosebud" beating a Main Roster Superstar, and then even more when they find out it is another Main Roster Superstar who has just been away for a while.


So yah, it's not the worst gimmick ever. Needs some tweaks here and there and certainly he needs a compelling feud sooner rather than later to get fans more invested but it can work.

 

[stingray11214]

Too bad this era is sooooo PC. I would love the idea of Justin Gabriel and Adam Rose as a Springbok tag team version ala Col. DeBeers in the old AWA. I can see them decry South Africa's crime rate and corruption after the elimination of White rule. This is where that Xavier Woods-led stable would come out as heroes after a long feud with Rose and Gabriel.

However, we are dealing with Adam Rose, aka the human Bugs Bunny. As is he is good for comic relief. He will fill the role left open by Santino Marella the face. His entrance is too big for him, and makes him look puny. He needs to dump the Rosebuds unless he ups his game. Otherwise, Adam Rose, perty animal, will forever shadow Adam Rose the wrestler.

 

[Dysturbed]

Just curious, butvus Adam Rose supposed to be based off of the Greek God Dionysus?

He acts quite a bit like Russell Brand

 

[daddyJ_t]

why is there even a thread about this? there is no meat to the thread at all. no evidence to back up this hypothesis or nothing. wwe wouldnt go with such a offbeat character. if they were going to do the greek thing, it would be another zeus or narcissus or a more well known deity. i believe its more to capitalize on the russell brand thing mentioned above with a little 1980s- early 90s new york club kids scene thrown in

 

[Navi]

I love Adam Rose and it's a shame he couldn't have used "World Goes Wild" as his theme song. That would have put him over straight away.

JBL's hatred of the guy in the bunny suit just slays me as well. It's refreshing and I love the Exotic Express.

 

[smizzy]

Please.

If Adam Rose is based off of any Greek God, then it's obvious that it's in the image of Zeus.

First of all let's take a look at Zeus:

^^^
SCREAMS Adam Rose, bro!

Now.. let's scratch the surface even further than the blatant Zeus-like appearance. So, we all know Zeus: Supreme god, ruler of the sky, and... ummmmm... give me a minute, took mythology my sophomore year in HS so it's been awhile... oh yeah! There was also the lightning bolts and Hera and-

Actually, you know what? Now that I think about it, that's nothing like Adam Rose at all. Totally Dionysus, dude. For sure!

 

[laodaron]

So, let me get this straight... some dude comes out and does a weird prance with 15 other people, sucks on a lollipop, does about 3 wrestling moves, uses his bunny to cause a distraction, gets a schoolboy, and we're to believe he's a face. Is that only because of who he is booked against?

This gimmick is easily the worst one in the WWE in years, maybe decades. Maybe this guy can actually go in a ring, but I don't know, and until he's repackaged, I don't care.

 

[Mustang Sally]

So, let me get this straight... some dude comes out and does a weird prance with 15 other people, sucks on a lollipop, does about 3 wrestling moves, uses his bunny to cause a distraction, gets a schoolboy, and we're to believe he's a face. Is that only because of who he is booked against?

Essentially, yes. This is the type of gimmick that could be "heeled up" so quickly that we'd barely know it happened. The effect of the act is intentionally obnoxious and could be switched up, down & all around with no difficulty. Personally, I don't think the act would be much different if he was made a bad guy: obnoxiousness breeds more obnoxiousness.

I keep waiting for some direction other than what we've seen so far, figuring the company surely didn't want to keep an act around that was so hard to stage....and sure enough, management decided to stop flying the same people from city to city, instead, using local folks at each stop. The fact the act "lost" nothing showed that to be a wise decision.

Then, we read that Vince McMahon was sick of the Adam Rose schtick already; apparently not seeing any long-range benefits (or detriments) to the act. If that's so, then okay.....but what was the plan for Rose in the first place? They surely knew that doing the same thing every week had to lead to something more substantial, no?

To further complicate matters after reading about McMahon's thoughts on the matter, Rose was back last night, doing the same damn thing as before,

Is Adam Rose in or out, Vince? And if he's in, let's get moving with his development.

Of course, if having a bunny rabbit distract Adam's opponents is the chosen direction, I'd again like to ask what Creative intended as a long-term plan at the beginning.

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Adam Rose is a mix of Russell Brand, Austin Powers, Axel Rose, Bret Michaels, and Kojak.

He kind of stinks. He gets a mini push because he is new like almost every new guy does. His beat attribute is his music and that some of his girls may be hot but I don't know since they don't keep the camera focused on the girls long enough. He just reappeared and is doing the same thing as before. Most everything else is just annoying. I expect next week for Slater to steal the bunny costume and cost Rose a match.

 

[MartialHorror]

I'm not a fan. I find him to be more annoying than funny and I felt he was being overly pushed in his debut.

I thought it was odd when he and the Bunny attacked Heath Slater on last nights RAW after Slater was already down. That was kind of...villainish. At least Slater's attack was sort of justified as the bunny was kind of distracting Titus (and the bunny got revenge). Them turnbuckling him while he was down in front of a crowd that seemed to like Slater was a low blow.

In fact, Adam Rose tends to do a lot of heel stuff. Didn't he continuously interrupt Swagger's matches when Swagger obviously wanted nothing to do with him? Weird writing.

(I do think that the performer himself has talent, although I can't tell too much about his wrestling skills as his matches are so short. I merely dislike the character)

 

[chuckmdubya]

Rose is one of the best gimmicks to come out in a while. Him, Bray Wyatt, and Bo Dallas all have pretty fresh and entertaining gimmicks.
What's happening in the ring with him now is just whats being booked. At some point they will have to put him in a real match where his bunny doesn't jump in.
I bet he's just providing some comedy to the show along the lines Santino, Brother Love, or even Mick Foley.
Maybe the top brass isn't confident in his in ring ability yet, who knows?

 

[laodaron]

Could you explain what's good about the gimmick?

Because, really, what it looks like is that they want someone who'e completely irreverent to the system, and has 60s parties, and likes to shag, YEAH, BABAY!

Bo Dallas and Bray Wyatt are leagues above Adam Rose. Leagues and leagues. Really, though, I think it comes down to ability. Bo Dallas could have been easily as cringeworthy as Adam Rose, but he really makes it work.

But really, what makes Adam Rose a good gimmick? All I really know about him is he likes to party. Daniel Bryan's gimmick is the "Indy Star that fought the odds" Cena is "Hustle, Loyalty, Respect" Super Cena, etc. Adam Rose has absolutely zero personality and absolutely no evidence of in ring ability.

 

[QuadrupleH]

Lol at Dionysus.

Anyway, I think Rose is their attempt to get a Fandango type reaction from the crowd - that is, hoping his music catches on and people sing it or whatever and maybe people outside of wrestling (like at baseball games) emulate it.

He is a million percent a Russel Brand ripoff and I don't see him ever getting over. He's pretty effeminate and dainty, so seeing him as a legit threat is difficult. It takes him an hour to get to the ring, so he has little ring time, and because there is no meat to the character, he can't even have an effective match. How many cheap roll-ups can a guy do? How many bunny distractions?

They should tweak him. Have him be a party guy that offers to party with his opponent in some way, then gets rejected. When he gets rejected, he goes crazy and beats the crap out of them, as though he is in a trance. When he snaps out of the trance at the end of the match, he turns back into the party guy.

Meh...I posted twice in a Big Show/Mark Henry thread and now an Adam Rose thread today. I'll do anything to avoid working...

 

[kadroan]

He got potential. I'm curious to see how he would do in a serious story line. He moves well in the ring. Definitely better than Fandango when he first came in the WWE.

I could see him being a US/IC champion, maybe even a tag team champion if he tags with somebody like Heath Slater.

 

[Dagger Dias]

It depends on how you define "having a future". Will this gimmick take him to the World Heavyweight Championship? Not likely. Even when WWE had two World Championships it would have been unlikely. Silly gimmicks can only take you so far. I'm a fan of Adam Rose. His strange group of partiers and their antics are funny, but I don't see him ever getting further than the Intercontinental Championship as this character. They'll always need midcarders and I do like the gimmick, so I'm fine with the fact that he'll probably never win a world title as this character. Now, to me the bigger question is whether or not something is going to happen with that bunny. He's the most commonly seen member of the partying crowd and JBL in particular rants about him a lot.

 

[Radical]

I'll throw this out there too:

While his gimmick certainly could use some tweaking to be more enjoyable and engaging for the audience, like someone mentioned, have him visibly get angry in the ring for a reason like the opponent doesn't want to party with him. Let the fans KNOW that's why he is angry and is a serious threat in the ring. I think that's why fans are a little reluctant to get on board with Rose.

Of course, he also has to tone down the effeminate mannerisms. It is Pro Wrestling after all and you just HAVE to look somewhat manly in order to be taken seriously. Santino, as goofy as he was, he actually did his moves with impact and his movements were solid and he would sometimes 'get angry' when say the opponent hit his head into the turnbuckle. That's what helped fans see him more legit in the ring. Not that I agree he should have won he US title with that gimmick, maybe only the Tag Titles with Kozlov made sense but point is, he was able to be seen as more serious. In fact, Santino's facial expressions were serious when he fast-walked to the ring.



Oh, and I forgot to get to my main point for Adam Rose's character:

If Rose's character really starts to wear thin with the audience, I'd LOVE to see him slip into Leo Kruger. The character he did BRILLIANTLY in NXT. I'd like to see him do a bit of a Jekyl and Hyde thing, or Rose and Kruger thing where you never know what version of him you are getting until he comes out on the stage. That would actually be a really fresh character. It would be different than even the Faces of Foley because those characters stayed for a while. But with Rose and Kruger it would be like, actually, each day fans would wait to see which 'mood' the guy was in and that would add to anticipation every time. Just thinking of this gimmick makes me really hope they do it with him.

 

[CM Steel]

He acts quite a bit like Russell Brand

Bingo we have a winner ladies & gentlemen! Adam Rose is indeed based off actor Russell Brand. I forgot the name of the movie in where Brand plays a rich manchild. Adam Rose is more closer to that character then to Russell Brand himself. A full-grown man who lives and acts like a kid. My only question to the WWE creative team is, what was ya'll smok'in on that day you guys thought of this character?

Leave the funny to the people in the funny business WWE!

 

[DCLXVI]

I don't see it getting over... I think a lot of people are confused by the gimmick and they didn't do him any favors by how he was booked coming in. It is also the PG era, not the attitude era where playing a pimp or a porn star or drinking beer was acceptable. Adults don't usually party by dancing around dressed like cheeseburgers and sucking on lollipops so his demographic is presumably kids. Should have kept him as Leo Kruger then he may have had a chance.

 

[DCLXVI]

I have noticed they are sending him out with some attractive females at the front of his entourage lately instead of a bunch of fat hairy guys and using less of the stupid costumes, so that's an improvement.

 

[DCLXVI]

I'll throw this out there too:
Oh, and I forgot to get to my main point for Adam Rose's character:

If Rose's character really starts to wear thin with the audience, I'd LOVE to see him slip into Leo Kruger. The character he did BRILLIANTLY in NXT. I'd like to see him do a bit of a Jekyl and Hyde thing, or Rose and Kruger thing where you never know what version of him you are getting until he comes out on the stage. That would actually be a really fresh character. It would be different than even the Faces of Foley because those characters stayed for a while. But with Rose and Kruger it would be like, actually, each day fans would wait to see which 'mood' the guy was in and that would add to anticipation every time. Just thinking of this gimmick makes me really hope they do it with him.

I like this a lot. Shades of Mankind/Dude Love.