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Obama wants MORE POWER!!!

Depends on who you ask.

If you ask a Republican, you'll be told he's a communist and this is unheard of and it's somehow making government bigger.

If you ask a Democrat, they likely won't care.
 
I couldn't find any pictures of Obama as Darth Sidious, but it's worth mentioning that Pope Benedict looks frighteningly similar...

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I love the comments on there, about how Obama is so evil and changing America to be like he wants it. Because NO ONE has ever done anything like that right?
 
Not only that, but he wants to SHRINK THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. Isn't that what the GOP is always complaining about, that the federal government is too big?
 
Depends on who you ask.

If you ask a Republican, you'll be told he's a communist and this is unheard of and it's somehow making government bigger.

If you ask a Democrat, they likely won't care.

I must be a Democrat then, cause I honestly couldn't give a shit less.

Personally I think the whole political system needs to undergo some sort of reboot, because this whole Republicans trying to block anything democrats do, & vise-versa bullshit really just doesn't seem to be doing anyone any good.
 
I must be a Democrat then, cause I honestly couldn't give a shit less.

Personally I think the whole political system needs to undergo some sort of reboot, because this whole Republicans trying to block anything democrats do, & vise-versa bullshit really just doesn't seem to be doing anyone any good.

Yeah that's a big issue. At the end of the day, I don't think the vast majority of the country cares who does something as long as SOMEONE does something. Most people don't care that abortion has been banned 9000 times over by Congress or making some commemorative baseball coin. Fix the infrastructure, get some jobs, and get some troops home. Who cares about all this other nonsense?
 
I just hope whomever gets elected doesn't up and change everything that Obama set into motion, agree with it or not. It seems like a redundant cycle; the democrats get into office and changes shit, then the GOP gets into office and changes more shit, just stick with some consisitency.
 
If you weren't going to change the stuff your predecessor did that you disagree with, why would you run at all?
 
If you weren't going to change the stuff your predecessor did that you disagree with, why would you run at all?

On the surface, it appears as though the Democrats and Republicans disagree with everything the other side wants to do, meaning that you get 8 years of Democrats replacing everything the Republicans did and then 8 years of Republicans putting it all back again. It is a vicious circle that ends up getting you nowhere.
 
Oh, I understand that...but if you run for an election against an incumbent, and promise not to change anything that they did, then what would the point in electing you? I can just vote for the incumbent if I want to maintain the status quo.
 
The problem comes when the incumbent has been doing a good job or has instituted a scheme that would benefit the country if it was given time.

Obamacare may be the one such change and yet it would seem that the Republicans cannot wait to get rid of it, so divisive has it become.
 
It's also most likely completely unconstitutional. Republicans don't oppose the idea of reforming health care and/or health care insurance (I separate them because they are two completely different things), they oppose the way the Democrats went about it, without any concerns as to whether the thing was actually legal or not. There was a better way to do it than the way the Democrats ramrodded it through. But, I am not going to comment anymore on it, because a lengthy discussion on Obamacare would completely derail the original topic of the thread.
 
But it is that kind of procedural nonsense that can nullify good ideas. It is one of the problems with having such a basic constitution.

So polarised is American politics that even when Obama tries to reduce bureaucracy, which I would guess most people would agree with, because it is Obama, it must automatically be bad in the eyes of Republicans and there must be an evil and corrupt spin to put on it.
 
I actually haven't criticized Obama's request. I want government to be shrunk to reduce wasteful spending...I would want to know the extent of the power he is requesting, how much it allows him to do, and if there is a timeframe, etc, but I think any reasonable person who follows politics would probably be curious about that too. I would want to know the same things if it were a Republican President. Does it give him carte blanche kind of power? Or is it a very directed request, enabling him to only affect those departments specifically mentioned? Basically, I just want to know about the fine print first before I say Congress should give it to him or reject his request.

But then again, I consider myself a independent conservative, not a Republican. They are not equivalent terms to me. I always reserve the right to go against the GOP if I disagree with them, and I reserve the right to give Obama or any other Democrat credit if I think he or she merits it. Granted, it happens infrequently, but it has happened.

For instance, while I thought Obama should have gotten Congressional approval for the airstrikes over Libya, I had absolutely no problems with the actual actions, with the use of military power (even under the guise of the United Nations) to try to oust Khaddafi. A lot of Republicans were opposed to that, and I actually kinda sided with Obama on that. I figure if I am okay with using military force to oust Hussein, how can I suddenly be against the use of military force to aid in the removal of another dictator? Intrinsically, whats the difference between Khaddafi and Hussein? To be totally opposed to that while favoring the war in Iraq would have been hypocritical. I criticized him for not following procedure, but not because the action itself was wrong. He just needs to ask before taking the car, you know?
 
I wish the parents of every Democrat and Republican taught their kids what the word compromise means.
 
Boehner: Obama is expanding government.

McConnell: More expansion of government by a president with a history of it.

I wish I had been a psychology major. I could easily just hand the professor a picture of those two as a project on psychosis.
 

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