New Titles = Better Division?

[BuckshotBrian13]

With the new WWE tag team titles instead of them being unified, do you think this is a sign of the tag team division being rebuilt or they just revamping the titles as they're going to revamp the logo soon when the 900th epsiode comes on.

 

[Father Uncle Oscar]

First of all, there's already an official thread for the new Tag Titles.

Second, the titles completely destroy the new logo rumor. If you look at the belts, they have the current logo on them. Why make new belts with the current logo if you're just going to get a different logo anyway?

And third, it's just WWE revamping the titles so the Champs don't have to carry around 2 pairs of belts, which is just annoying anyway.

 

[BuckshotBrian13]

I made another thread since that thread is on the belts themselves. I want to see people's opinons on the tag division and see if a revamp of the belts helps the division out.

 

[tjkyle316197]

I think it will be highly beneficial for WWE to rebuild their division but keep it RAW and Smackdown! and not just RAW, not that WWE takes advantage of their Tag Teams anyways... but hey, here's to hoping.

 

[Gooner]

I think steps are already being taken to partially revert the WWE back to what it was. Over the last two years we've seen a dwindling tag team division - with more titles than there were tag teams. Then they decided to unify them at WrestleMania 25, they put the titles on Jeri-Show who brought a little prestige back to the belts and the only way is up for the tag team division which has been at an all time low. Now with the impending feud between Laycool and Melina, we are perhaps seeing the beginning of the same in the equally weak Women's division and unify the Diva's and Women's titles (Long overdue in my opinion).

The US & IC titles will hopefully be kept seperate to keep the midcard on each brand fresh and exciting. But perhaps (and I may be jumping the gun here) the two world championships will soon be unified, hopefully by or at WrestleMania 27. Perhaps Barrett unifies them just like his mentor did ten years earlier, we'll see.

Then only the champions can appear on both shows, thus having the benefit of having longer and better feuds. Plus this will give those who are the IC or US champs and even tag champs a chance to prove themselves on a more regular basis instead of sporadic appearances.

The World Title Picture would look like this - Taker, Kane, HHH, Mysterio, Cena, Orton, Sheamus, Edge, Miz, Big Show and Jericho - hoping the older Superstars vacate their spots soon though - by 2012.

The IC/US title picture - Bryan, Riley, Barrett, Morrison, MVP, Truth, Kofi, Rhodes, DiBiase, Ziggler, Punk, Swagger, Chavo, Masters, McIntyre, Hardy, Christian

Womens title picture - Melina, Maryse, Kelly Kelly, Laycool, Phoenix, Eve, Gail Kim, Alicia Fox and Serena

Tag Title Picture - Nexus, SES, Hart Dynasty, Usos, Hawkins + Archer, Croft + Beretta, Santino + Kozlov, Cryme Tyme Henry + Big Zeke, Yoshi + Goldust, Bourne + Kaval (would love to see that).

For those not in the title picture at the time, it gives them enough oppenents to keep them busy until its their turn to enter the fray.
I know it is a lot more complicated than that and it will take a lot of reshuffling but if the roster works out the way I wish it will then Raw, SD and even Superstars will be compulsive viewing.

This gives all the main roster bar a few to have something to do during the show. Plus they should also bring back brand exclusive PPVs, this would enhance feuds as they would have at the most 8 weeks to build it up gradually instead of throwing them together two weeks before the event, but I digress. Let me know what you think!!!

 

[Dhays9]

If the past year or two is an indication...........then frankly no.

 

[TellMeWhy]

The new copper painted penny looking WWE tag titles are nothing but a confirmation that the tag team division is penniless and worthless. It's like how they changed the ECW title from the gold belt to the sliver. It instantly devalued the belts. The WWE's tag division sucks. Them changing the face of the belts doesn't mean a thing. Just face it people. Tag team wrestling in WWE is dead. You want tag team wrestling? Watch TNA and ROH.

 

[BuckshotBrian13]

The new copper painted penny looking WWE tag titles are nothing but a confirmation that the tag team division is penniless and worthless. It's like how they changed the ECW title from the gold belt to the sliver. It instantly devalued the belts. The WWE's tag division sucks. Them changing the face of the belts doesn't mean a thing. Just face it people. Tag team wrestling in WWE is dead. You want tag team wrestling? Watch TNA and ROH.

Just maybe there is some hope if they can push Nexus for dominance on Raw if and when their title shot banned is lifted. Have them focus on grabbing the gold and make it gang warfare for all the titles.

 

[LegendKiller716]

With the new WWE tag team titles instead of them being unified, do you think this is a sign of the tag team division being rebuilt or they just revamping the titles as they're going to revamp the logo soon when the 900th epsiode comes on.

I'm wondering if this will lead to a new set of tag titles on smackdown or if they can still go on both shows.

Also, are these titles final? conventional wisdom says yes, but if you look at the top of the title, the old logo is still there. Maybe they will just switch the logo on the belt.

As for if the division will get better, maybe. i hope so.

 

[JT2005]

While I agree that the tag titles look pretty horrible. I think maybe we might be seeing a little bit of life coming back to the tag team division. I agree with Gooner on a lot of points. The WWE has been getting worse and they have WAY too many titles to focus on. If the hardcore, european and cruiserweight titles are any indication.

IC and US titles being kept seperate would be good as it gives to chances to bring up more superstars at one time.

the womens and tag titles are pointless to keep seperate and brand exclusive. not enough life in either division.

As much as i hate to see the big gold belt go, (which would be the one in WWE) two world champions splits the value of just one. we have way too many 5+ time world champions in such a short time. Cena and Edge went from first time champions to 9 time champions in 5 years.

Let's hope unification continues and WWE learns how to do it right this time.

 

[MWRedskins]

i think the Tag Team division is getting better, BUT they need one other thing. Make the Hart Dynasty defend the Tag Titles on both Raw and Smackdown. I think that the Hart Dynasty will likely lose the Tag Team titles very soon though. There are many Tag teams now. Hart Dynasty, the Dudebusters, the Gatecrashers, The Usos, The SES, BUT i think the Tag Team that will take the Titles off the Harts will end up being the Nexus, maybe use the Freebird rule? or maybe just two guys. If it's just two guys and not the entire Nexus, i think the two guys should be Tarver and Otunga.

 

[reed214]

they should rebuild the tag team division because mid-card wrestlers that are waiting for the old guys to clear out (morrison, kofi, swagger, ted jr) need more recognition. they def should not go back to seperate brand pay per views, bad writing needs to stay on the shows and hopefully not come to the ppv (i remember a smackdown ppv in 06 a champion wrestled, and the title was NOT on the line,at a ppv..)

 

[BuckshotBrian13]

I think steps are already being taken to partially revert the WWE back to what it was. Over the last two years we've seen a dwindling tag team division - with more titles than there were tag teams. Then they decided to unify them at WrestleMania 25, they put the titles on Jeri-Show who brought a little prestige back to the belts and the only way is up for the tag team division which has been at an all time low. Now with the impending feud between Laycool and Melina, we are perhaps seeing the beginning of the same in the equally weak Women's division and unify the Diva's and Women's titles (Long overdue in my opinion).

Tag Title Picture - Nexus, SES, Hart Dynasty, Usos, Hawkins + Archer, Croft + Beretta, Santino + Kozlov, Cryme Tyme Henry + Big Zeke, Yoshi + Goldust, Bourne + Kaval (would love to see that).

If only the WWE would do that, but it seems they put all the focus on Cena and Orton anymore and whoever they're pushing into the main event. The only tag champs as of late who had credibility was Jericho, Big Show, Miz, DX, and the Hart Dyansty. All main eventers outside of the Hart Dyansty and then you have the backround for them and Bret Hart backing them up.

i think the Tag Team division is getting better, BUT they need one other thing. Make the Hart Dynasty defend the Tag Titles on both Raw and Smackdown. I think that the Hart Dynasty will likely lose the Tag Team titles very soon though. There are many Tag teams now. Hart Dynasty, the Dudebusters, the Gatecrashers, The Usos, The SES, BUT i think the Tag Team that will take the Titles off the Harts will end up being the Nexus, maybe use the Freebird rule? or maybe just two guys. If it's just two guys and not the entire Nexus, i think the two guys should be Tarver and Otunga.

Tarver was kicked from Nexus monday night, so him being in the title hunt would be a no. I say Otunga and Slater would be good for the tag titles.

I'm wondering if this will lead to a new set of tag titles on smackdown or if they can still go on both shows.

Also, are these titles final? conventional wisdom says yes, but if you look at the top of the title, the old logo is still there. Maybe they will just switch the logo on the belt.

As for if the division will get better, maybe. i hope so.

I woudn't be going for two titles again after they just united it. I say rebuild the tag division then attempt to recreate the SD tag titles.

 

[JT2005]

Tarver was kicked from Nexus monday night, so him being in the title hunt would be a no. I say Otunga and Slater would be good for the tag titles.

That was Darren Young. At this point, I think you could make any combo work out of what remains except Barrett. As long as they don't defend like the spirit squad. that was irritating.

 

[BuckshotBrian13]

That was Darren Young. At this point, I think you could make any combo work out of what remains except Barrett. As long as they don't defend like the spirit squad. that was irritating.

Barrett will probably get his title shot some time in the future. Also the spirit squad vs. dx made some good tv. =D. lol During then, they were defending the title more then they are now.

 

[JT2005]

Barrett will probably get his title shot some time in the future. Also the spirit squad vs. dx made some good tv. =D. lol During then, they were defending the title more then they are now.

that was entertaining. i was mainly talking about how ALL of them were champions. especially with the kenny, mikey, etc. and i wont ruin it for you if i can avoid it, but check out spoilers for next week if you havent already

 

[The Crock]

This might make the division stronger, but it is mostly cosmetic. They don't want the champs to have to carry around two belts each. Plus, I'm thinking that they might unify the Women's belts and drop one of 'em, but I think that because of the whole LayCool - Melins feud. Back to the point, this really isn't good for the division... It's just all business. I'm hoping that it makes the division stronger though, I really do.

 

[mrbrownstone]

No, quite frankly the WWE dosent give a shit about the tag division, their champions are hardly ever even on TV, does that tell you something. The only reason they changed the titles is because having four titles is just plain stupid, simple as that. Oh BTW there is already a thread about the new belts.

 

[Ferbian]

Don't see how new championships can make a better division. The division could be perfectly fine with the old titles as well. It's all about building great matches, great feuds and all the things that makes for any kind of great division or credibility to a championship.

That is all there is needed to create a better division. The new championships won't manage to do that by themselves, much less if the division is run like it already is. It's fine now, but it's nowhere near good enough.

 

[BuckshotBrian13]

No, quite frankly the WWE dosent give a shit about the tag division, their champions are hardly ever even on TV, does that tell you something. The only reason they changed the titles is because having four titles is just plain stupid, simple as that. Oh BTW there is already a thread about the new belts.

I already told this to someone else. That thread is about the belts themselves. This thread is about the wwe trying to reshape the tag division starting with the tag belts as a start.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

While new belts don't necessarily mean the tag division will get better, like many, I'm hoping that the belts do ultimately wind up being a fresh start. There are actually several good teams in the WWE, it's just that they haven't been doing anything with them. Really, since The Hart Dynasty won the titles from ShowMiz, the tag team division has all but come to a halt. Since the tag champs are supposed to be available to either brand, I don't really know why the WWE doesn't devote time on Superstars or Smackdown for the tag champs and feuds over the titles. It'd make Superstars more relevant instead of a throwaway show that usually has quality matches. As for Smackdown, I just think it'd be good for one of the two big brands to have a strong tag team presence. It's not going to be Raw anytime soon I don't believe.

 

[iceman43]

I remember back in the NWA Days they had US Tag Team Champs for lower level tag teams. When there was more actual teams. i think they need more legitmate teams( you know ones that have a legit team finisher) not just superstars put together. These teams should debut as teams and maybe break up later if you know what I mean. Having only 3-4 teams a show you run into the same feuds again and again. USO's should be featured more IMO too but that's for another discussion. If you treat the tag teams like you treat singles wrestling ...which is what they did back in the day then it will be successful. I think the divisions starting dying when they put superstar teams together constantly

 

[TheInfamousOne]

I really think they should have a dual show tag team tournament. That way you can showcase the teams that you do have and perhaps create a few new ones. I love tag team wrestling and i think it is vastly under used in the WWE. I miss the days of guys that just did tag team action...there are so few of those teams now. I think the Hart Dynasy, the Usos, The Nexus(Sheffield and Otunga although I wish it was Gabriel instead), are a solid young base. I think you bring in the Los Aviadores exclusively for Tag Teaming and Put some mid card guys together that make sense and you have a good division. I think the Dudebusters need a gimmick adjustment very badly. The things that made tag teams so great to me was a cohesive look and gimmick..Look at all the great teams of the past. they were rarely two guys just thrown together. and to me thats were the E is going wrong..Its like "Well Tatsu and Goldust arent doing much..Hell lets make them a tag team." Thats not believable to me. I am ready for the solid we look like a team, tag teams to come back