MVP: better face or heel?

[MVs Prodigy]

This lately good guy act for not only Henry but MVP too, has me disappionted in the way WWE is using a rising star. I cant really see MVP as a face. I find it obnoxious. I hate it when he tries to please the crowd. When the audience shouts "Ballin" when he does the move. MVP as a face is just a no no. But when he was a heel, is what made me a MVP fan since the beginning. The entrace ( oh yeah the way he enters as a face now, pathetic ) was remarkable, coming through the whatever you call it. The gimmic of being the highest paid wrestler in the history of SD!. Goin on as the longest US Champ in history. Wonderful stuff. The feuds were even better. Lately I havent been impressed w/ his feuds, but as a heel on SD! w/ Kane, Hardy and the victories they gave him over some top stars like Flair or Benoit, which he took the US title from. I even liked him during his face era on SD! when he was getting pitty for that 23+ losing streak. The won the title again over Benjamin. Since going to RAW his character in my opinion has diminished as a face. For a while it was mediocre, but now I dread it. Either turn him back into a heel on RAW, or trade him to SD! and let him stay a face or tourn him heel.

 

[deadman403]

MVP actually works better as a face because he has the ability to get a crowd interested in a match. He wasn't able to do this as well as when he was a heel because he was being seen as a jobber, and he was. As a heel MVP was struggling to get the support by the fans that he has now.

 

[Ben-Phillips]

Let me simply say this. MVP as a face right now = Epic waste of talent.

MVP is a great talent to have and I believe he can play a face quite well, but it doesn't make much sense for him to be a face right now. Montel is the kind of guy who's gimmick just screams "HATE ME!" yet, WWE tries to book him up as a face. I wouldn't mind this much if he had done more during his tenure as a heel.

MVP's face turn was fresh, but didn't really work too effectively. I saw MVP as the front-runner to win the Money in the Bank ladder match coming into WrestleMania 24, simply because he was playing such an amazing heel that got him main-event reactions. Montel has since grown stale, for one major reason many don't take into consideration.

Heels are usually the ones who slow down matches, and dictate the pace of matches, correct? And faces are the ones that battle back and bring in the fast-pace and excitement... So why in THE HELL, is WWE having someone with Wolfe-Parkinson White syndrome, basically meaning his heartbeat accelerates at irregular speed, and sometimes with less strenuous activity. My brother has WPW syndrome, as well. Sometimes he can run a mile and be perfectly fine, and sometimes, he'll run fifty yards and can't breathe.

WWE is stupid for having this guy, who doesn't really have much of a reputation, making a pointless face-turn with no justifications other than "just 'cause" and trashing the guy's immense potential. If he has WPW, he has to work a slower-paced match. MVP, in my opinion, looked like a main eventer in early 2008, and now, he's lucky if he has a match. WWE should have kept him heel and put him in the ring with someone like Rey Mysterio for a longer program so he can really show how great he is, while having to pace himself.

I believe that's why he's a tag team guy now, because he can't do long matches as a face, which is just stunting his chances for advancement.

 

[Lazerball]

whoever started this thread is a damn fool, its completely obvious that he is WAY better as a heel, lets see, wats happened to him since he turned face, he won the US title again, but didnt hold it for very long, and then prety much just ended up in hiatus since then, fake out pushes and this horrible tag team with another guy who shouldnt being trying to be face. its sad wat has happened to him. and its sad that this would even be discussed.

 

[The Gribbler]

I don't buy MVP as a face, never have, never will. Seriously the guy oozes Charisma, and cockyness, everything he does screams that he thinks, or rather knows that he is better than you.

I really believed his character, I don't buy the good sportsman thing that he is doing now. As I have stated before and will for every time this question is asked, MVP as a heel got some good heat and was one of the most entertaining characters on TV.

As a face...well we can see where that is headed...

Just My Opinion

 

[image1986]

Relax lazerball its not that serious let the man have his thread. Anyway I do argee so far MVP's heel run has been better than his face. I think if his face turn was done differently he would have had much more momentum. In addition he could have still kept the brash cockness as a face instead of watering his gimmick down and seem to try so hard to applease the fans. I think those things played a factor but the main reason hes not so over as a face is booking. As a heel on smackdown it was very easy to book programs for him because he was obnoxious, cocky,charismatic and you could just about insert any mid card face or main event face to face him and make it interesting. As a face on raw he doesn't have the same option because he hasn't had any solid programs with anyone on the roster. Without his cockness charismatic "Im better than you" attitude, his face character loses its dimension and flare. The confrontation of randy orton segment was short lived, the swagger program seem to have no momentum at all and his teaming up with henry doesn't really do much for his singles career. Him being U.S champion seem just a way to put the U.S title and himself on raw so nothing came from it. I think he needed a complete overhaul if he wants to continue being a face

 

[stop-it-jamaican-me-crazy]

He's just lost in the RAW shuffle. Obviously creative has nothing for him right now so he's teaming up with Henry for now. It's a shame they didn't do anything with him after confronting Orton on RAW when he was drafted.

 

[Isaac Kaye]

I watched MVP live last night at the RAW houseshow in Birmingham and the guy isn't even close to being over as a face. He had huge heel heat a couple of years back but now the crowd are completely indifferent when he comes into the ring. There was no reaction whatsoever, seriously, I could barely hear a cheer across the entire arena. He had no clue how to work the crowd and it didn't help that The Miz didn't sell much throughout the fight - it was horribly one sided.

It's such a shame because MVP can be one of the top heels in the company, he has the look and the attitude. His character is really stale at the moment. Unless they develop his character and gimmick as a face I'm not sure how they are gonna use him to his fullest.

The guy is a natural heel!

 

[Trill Co$by]

Personally, I think WWE is just holding him back in general. This guy, as he shows every time, has great work on the mic and is over with the crowd. Just watching Superstars last night, when he got Ted down for that Ballin' Elbow and started to try and get the crowd behind him, that arena exploded.

A lot of people in WWE aren't being used to their full potential, or at least to great potential. Miz, MVP, Kofi, Sheamus, and Swagger are great people to have the US title go back and forth amongst... you could even go as far as to give Bourne a reign or two. Make it like the days when Jericho, Edge, and Christian went after the IC title.

 

[sammysrh]

Yeah i agree MVP needs a push as a heel.. to me he was a lot more entertaining as a heel. As a face he was good for a little bit, but everything got all cheesy after he started hanging out with mark henry. Hes just corny, everything he does. When he was on smack down feuding with Matt hardy that was entertaining. But who knows? MVP could end up turning on Mark and turning heel.. but for some reason i see Mark turning on mvp because of the whole psychological size differential.

 

[D-Will316]

MVP was good when he first came to raw and went face to face with Orton, but somewhere along the line he got lost and the wwe never used him properly since. A heel turn could do wonders for him, especially since he could perhaps feud with Cena. (wishful thinking)

 

[jonathanephillips]

I'd watch MVP either way.... He is ultra talented, and IMO would be a great World Champion. Good on the mic, a great character, and awesome 5 star performer in the ring. He would fit in perfectly with cena, legacy, orton, sheamus, hbk, hhh in the world title scene. I don't know why he is not considered world champion material as I see him as having charisma that is equal to some of the ol time greats.

 

[excellence]

Yeah, you're right about mvp, i liked him better as a heel, because in his early days he was actually winning matches. i haven't seen him win a one on one match in a long time. I think mvp is a better heel than face.

 

[xXSlater420Xx]

MVP is way better as a heel. Espically when they give him mic time. The guy can talk shit like no one else right now. He just has that natural ability to know exactly how to piss people off. Come to think of it some of his heel promos kinda remind me of a rookie Rock. Now The Rock is by all means one of if not the best on the mic, but I think MVP could very well be right there with him if the WWE would only put more faith in him. From a WWE stand point, all they have been doing is holding the younger talent down, how are they suppose to make the next Rock or Stone Cold when they wont put their faith in someone other than Cena, Triple H, Randy Orton, ect. MVP could be huge but they never seem to get it right with him. So here is to hoping they turn MVP heel again soon and put his ass behind the mic, cuz if they dont he has a good chance of being one of those wrestlers that had all the makings to be huge but never got taken seriously as a big time player.

 

[shafe_41]

Heel. Not even a contest. This is like asking what tastes better between prime rib and asphalt. As Slater above me said, MVP can shit-talk you into oblivion if he was given the chance to. On the mic, he's the black Chris Jericho back when he was a noob. Now I realize Jericho is a god on the mic, but with a little more time and some decent consistency as a heel character, MVP could be right up there with Jericho as far as their mic work parallel to where they were at the respective points in their careers.

I mean you saw what happened to MVP at the hands of Sheamus. It was a 3 minute squash match. If it even lasted 3 minutes. Now Sheamus is growing on me, I'll admit it. If you would have asked me 6 weeks ago if Sheamus would beat the bejesus out of MVP in less than 3 minutes, I would have laughed in your face. In no universe is Sheamus a better superstar than MVP. Especially not one worthy of a 3 minute win over a multi-time US Champion and the longest running US Champion in the WWE's history. Sheamus is a fluke champion. I've said it before and I'll say it again. Destroying Jamie Noble, picking on Lawler, and putting Mark Cuban through a table does not make you a WWE Champion. Especially when you don't even put Cena through the table. He fell through a unfortunately positioned table. I'm digressing though...

MVP as a heel is more believable than him as a face. Hell, MVP as a unicorn is more believable than MVP as a face. I'll be the first to admit I was excited when MVP turned face. I liked the change, but 2 months into it, it was just clownshoes epic fail. It's been no better since. MVP needs to go back to being heel, or at least be infinity times more aggressive in the ring. Since his face turn, he doesn't have that aggressiveness that he use to have. He needs that back.

 

[MasterShakeIz4Real]

I'm gonna have to go with heel. As a heel he actually had a persona, ((kinda reminded me of a new age Rock)) he had good matches, he got a BETTER reaction (more people booed him then, less people cheer him now.) and his matches were NOT half bad. I remember the one with Benoit, the WM23 was pretty damn good and I was fairly impressed. and Not to mention the Matt Hardy storyline, hilarious/golden. But now what? He's a face, had a losing streak, won the US Title, held it, lost it, and now he's teaming with Mark Henry... when he lost the US title I thought he was gonna turn heel but, the timing was missed and now we have MVP in the "just throw him here until we decide to use him" with Mark "Why Am I Still Employed" Henry. So yeah, gonna have to say Heel. ((PS- Im new here so that's why i suck at posting; bare with me))

 

[Lethalfan]

He is way better as heel that is were he got most of his success. Longest reging United states champion, wwe tag team champion. Also it just seem he came off way better as heel epically when he does the Vip lounge. He is not really though a bad face but he is a better heel.

 

[rko102]

MVP was and will ALWAYS be a better heel than face. He comes out now and...what, tries to pump up the crowd by waving his arms all over the place? I loved when he had his entrance tunnel and his slow cocky walk to the ring. Now he bounces all over the place and does his stupid "ballin" thing for the crowd to chant along with him? He doesn't even do his VIP Lounge anymore, and either way it was way better when it was "for people better than you", rather than "for people like me and you". Thinking back to 2007, I absolutely loved when he had the feud with Matt Hardy going on SD, especially when they had that basketball competition right near the stage...ah, good memories. But hey, what can we say? WWE is not coming up with anything good lately in general.

 

[Dagger Dias]

MVP was and will ALWAYS be a better heel than face. He comes out now and...what, tries to pump up the crowd by waving his arms all over the place? I loved when he had his entrance tunnel and his slow cocky walk to the ring. Now he bounces all over the place and does his stupid "ballin" thing for the crowd to chant along with him? He doesn't even do his VIP Lounge anymore, and either way it was way better when it was "for people better than you", rather than "for people like me and you".

Yeah, I miss the tunnel too! I thought that after he got past the losing streak storyline he would get the tunnel back. It's not like he couldn't still have it as a face. He could also have remained arrogant like his heel self, only not as much of course. I think his face self could potentially have been just as good if not better than his heel self, but they made it worse by taking away the tunnel and doing the VIP Lounge so rarely. I think he was better as a heel because I found him more entertaining back then and he had a lot more momentum.

 

[VKO]

The proof is in the pudding. Look at the level of success MVP accomplished as a heel. He had the longest US title reign in WWE history. He was mega over with the crowd. Now he is enhancement talent nothing more. When he first debuted on Raw as a face I though man this guy is gonna be huge. The push Kofi is getting now I saw going to MVP. But now its quite obvious to me and should be to everyone else that he was much better off as a heel. His entire reign as a face has been a fail IMO.