Mr. Anderson No Longer a Member of Immortal?

[UFOcalling]

Last night on Impact, the show started with all of the current Immortal members coming the ring. The group was led by Bully Ray (if I'm not mistaken), and even Mr. Anderson walked out with the group. Personally, I thought Anderson would have had a separate entrance, but they way TNA started Impact was done well.

After all of the members of Immortal were in the ring, Bully Ray began to deliver a promo. Quite a good promo, if you ask me. Bully Ray said a few things to Anderson that surprised me. It seemed that Ray was trying to say that he earned a new respect for Anderson's abilities (after their match at HC Justice). Ray even went as far to say that Mr. Anderson is "a tough S.O.B.", and that "Mr. Anderson belongs in Immortal" (something to that effect).

Even though Bully Ray paid Mr. Anderson a few compliments, all of that flattery seemed to be back-handed. During Ray's little "speech" on Impact last night, he reminded Anderson that he was the victor of their match at HC Justice. Ray went on to say that he only won the match because he is "a better wrestler than Mr. Anderson". Ray also said that he would be winning the BFG tournament (fat chance, pun-intended), and essentially acted as the leader of Immortal's active wrestlers (possibly excluding Jeff Jarrett).

Obviously, Anderson's current character wasn't about to take that crap from Bully Ray. When it became apparent that Anderson disagreed with Ray's take on this situation, Gunner, Steiner, Abyss & Bully Ray proceded to beat the holy hell out of Anderson. Bully Ray wrapped his wallet-chain around his fist (as we've seen him do before), and waffled Anderson with it. Obviously Anderson bladed, as we saw him bleeding after the hit (due to the punch with the chain). Anderson sold the beat-down by needing to be stretchered out of the ring.

Later in the show, Anderson was seen backstage - leaving his trailer (with dry blood on his face) & looking for some retribution. He showed up in Immortal's dressing room, where he thought he had encountered Bully Ray alone. Anderson grabbed Ray's chain, and was getting ready to hit Ray with it until he got hit from behind by Gunner (at least I think it was Gunner? it doesn't really matter who it was).

My questions for you are:

Where is TNA taking the Anderson/Ray or Anderson/Immortal storyline? What happens next for this angle?

Was Mr. Anderson "kicked-out" of Immortal last night? It was never said directly, but Bischoff eluded to this when he said that he had "made a mistake" with Anderson (I think he meant by making him a member of the group). Bischoff also said that he "wouldn't make the same mistake again" (something to that effect). Bischoff also apologized directly to Bully Ray (by saying that Ray was right, Anderson was too "weak" to be a member of Immortal -- something like that).

We will most likely see Anderson miss a week or two's worth of Impact television tapings (at the least). Will we see another Anderson/Ray match at No Surrender? ...or will Anderson be off TV selling the beating he took last night until after No Surrender (the PPV will happen on Sunday, Sep. 11, 2011).

Is it possible that we'll see Mr. Anderson re-join Immortal, or did he successfully turn face (or "popular heel") last night?

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Personally, I believe that Anderson will miss the next couple of Impact tapings. I think Anderson will be gone long enough for Ray (& the rest of Immortal) to get "comfortable", thinking that they "took care" of their problem with Anderson once and for all.

Obviously Anderson will be looking to exact some revenge on Immortal, going after Bully Ray in particular. I believe Anderson & Ray will have another match at No Surrender, and it will possibly be a hardcore match (or a "NYC street fight", or whatever lame-ass title they give the match). Since Ray was the winner of their last match at HC Justice, it's my feeling that Mr. Anderson will be victorious at No Surrender (if the two of them indeed have this proposed match). Also, since Ray had a "cheap-win" at HC Justice (Ray performed a low-blow, then a roll-up for the 1-2-3 on Anderson), I believe that Mr. Anderson will have a "clean-win" if they have this match at No Surrender. Personally, I believe this match is inevitable.

I also believe that Anderson & Ray will have their "final encounter" at Bound for Glory in October. IMHO, this hypothetical match at BFG will mark the end of the Anderson/Ray feud. We could see some sort of stipulation thrown in there, like Immortal disbands if Mr. Anderson is victorious (or maybe Ray will have to quit Immortal, I don't know). Maybe we'll see that Anderson will have to "retire" or something if Ray wins. There might not be any stipulation at all, who knows. I do believe that this feud won't end until BFG at the earliest.

What is your take on this feud? Is it exciting at all, or are you already bored with it (and where it could possibly go in the future)? As per usual, I'm sorry for posting such a LOOOOONG post for this thread. I hope I didn't bore everyone to tears with its length. I'm looking forward to reading responses!

 

[Rasha]

Where is TNA taking the Anderson/Ray or Anderson/Immortal storyline? What happens next for this angle?

Sure looks like they're flipping Anderson back into face mode and will probably try the "Stone Cold" push again. Hard to say what happens next as we don't know how they'll be selling the injuries he sustained last night. I have a feeling he'll be off TV for a week or two, then come back and maybe form an unlikely alliance with Sting to fight Immortal and Angle.


Was Mr. Anderson "kicked-out" of Immortal last night?

Ummm, yeah? It was pretty obvious, bro.


Will we see another Anderson/Ray match at No Surrender?

I don't think so. I'm thinking Ray will be one of the four finalists in the BFG Series Four-Way match at No Surrender.


Is it possible that we'll see Mr. Anderson re-join Immortal, or did he successfully turn face (or "popular heel") last night?

No, he won't rejoin Immortal. As for the success of his face turn, there's no way to know that just now. If he comes out next week and the crowd is still confused as hell on how to react to him, then it wasn't a successful turn. Jury's still out there.

 

[King_Kong_Brody]

I have no idea where Anderson is going and honestly at this point, I hope it's into retirement. He flip flops more than a fish out of water, never tweaks his persona unless it's adding a new cuss word and is trying too hard to be TNA's Steve Austin. Him introducing himself is lame by now. So really I don't know what he's doing but unless it's something huge he'll be a heel in after my next cup of coffee anyways

My guess could be it's a swerve inside a swerve, Immortal is setting up Ray and Anderson will become Immortals second hand man behind Kurt.

 

[three count bout]

Where is TNA taking the Anderson/Ray or Anderson/Immortal storyline? What happens next for this angle?

Ray has nobody to feud with currently, Anderson will (unfortunately) do his Asshole Face thing he clearly isn't good enough to pull off and the two will fight. Anderson may try to take down other members of Immortal as well hitting them all with stunner...errr mic checks before IW decides to turn him heel again. It would seem he would want to go back after the title but I'm sure this will be a sufficient enough distraction that will last long enough enabling Angle to fight the BFG series winner. Maybe Anderson will cost Bully Ray some points in the BFG series?

Was Mr. Anderson "kicked-out" of Immortal last night?

Well actually, Ray just talked his usual junk. It seemed as though Anderson could stick around if he wanted, but he hit Ray thus effectively ending the groups current configuration.

Will we see another Anderson/Ray match at No Surrender?

As Rasha said, Ray should be in the BFG finals but he may not make it if Anderson costs him some points ala Jerry Lynn....This would set up the match me thinks

Is it possible that we'll see Mr. Anderson re-join Immortal, or did he successfully turn face (or "popular heel") last night?

I don't believe he'll rejoin, I don't want him to rejoin I never wanted him to join in the first place. I'm gravitating toward the idea he may never be popular again whether heel or face he has just been so mismanaged and lackluster recently. I really thought he was turning it around when he did the Classic Sting gimmick, but that momentum shorted out halfway. This latest turn was entirely too soon

 

[UFOcalling]

Was Mr. Anderson "kicked-out" of Immortal last night?

Ummm, yeah? It was pretty obvious, bro.

I agree with you, it seemed pretty obvious to me as well. I don't blame you if you didn't read what I said about this in my OP (it was quite long, and probably hard to digest). Although Eric said that Anderson "was a mistake", no member of Immortal officially said "Anderson's out!!" (or words to that effect). I also don't think Anderson will be aligned with Immortal after what happened to him on Impact last night. I was merely trying to spark discussion with that question.

Him introducing himself is lame by now.

Agreed. Why hasn't Anderson at least started using a regular wireless microphone? I'm so over the "Elvis-Mic" dropping down from high above. I was sick of it before he even left the WWE. Every once in a while he does something different in his intro (saying "Anderson" - the second time really quickly is the last change I remember, but he only did it once). Anderson should be allowing JB to introduce him (at least once in a while) by now.

Will we see another Anderson/Ray match at No Surrender?

As Rasha said, Ray should be in the BFG finals but he may not make it if Anderson costs him some points ala Jerry Lynn....This would set up the match me thinks

100% agree. To be honest, this scenario didn't cross my mind until I read Rasha's post. You bring up a good point as well, Anderson could return to Impact only to screw Bully Ray out of some tournament points.

IMHO, TNA's best bet would be to keep Mr. Anderson off TV for a while -- selling the two beatdowns from last night. I think it would work best to have Anderson make his "triumphant" return at No Surrender, for the sole purpose of costing Bully Ray the BFG finals match that's scheduled for No Surrender. During Anderson's absence, TNA should focus on getting Bully Ray even more over as a heel. This way, if Anderson shows up & costs Ray the match (for the BFG Tournament finals) it will let the fans know that they should cheer the hell out of Mr. Anderson (instead of leaving them confused). If this happens, boom...it will perfectly set up a match between Anderson & Bully Ray at BFG (and hopefully put an end to this feud, once and for all).

 

[Papa Pillman]

I'm thinking Ray will be one of the four finalists in the BFG Series Four-Way match at No Surrender.

I don't see that as more than a very remote possibility. If there is an Immortal representative in the final four of the BFG series at No Surrender, I think it clearly will be Gunner, not Bubba.

 

[snoopy]

I mean Anderson doesn't have the Title so Immortal has no use for him! Bully Ray is just that, a bully. once a bully sees a chance to indirectly bully you he will. This storyline is so Realistic it isn't funny! I've seen things like this happen alot growing where and how I grew up. It's that gang mentality that is real with this storyline and Bully Ray is doing a great job of playing his role. Awesome stuff!

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

yes mr.anderson is done with immortal they beat the shit out of him twice in 1 night and bishoff basically said anderson wasnt good for immortal hes done with them and i see anderson vs bully ray for BFG being a very good possiblity i could see anderson being off tv until after the next ppv but thats just me

 

[user2011]

no one mentioned his heart is not really in wrestling (says he wants to quit in 4-5 years) so who cares about him anyways.

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

Does anyone else see a problem with the Booking in TNA?, who the hell is heel and who the hell is face, one minute Angle is a babyface fighting against a heel Jeff Jarett, now hes a full blown heel fighting with Hogan against the Dixie regime, Anderson now is face after dropping the title to Sting and being beaten to a bloody pulp by Immortal.

This is the type of bullcrap that makes me want to switch off TNA and stop supporting the product, with every bit of good TNA attempts to do they overshadow it with their shoot from the hip booking and bad heel turn after face turn after heel turn.

Heres an idea why not just stick with a long term booking plan for your wrestlers, allow them to affirm themselves in there roles, stop hot potatoing the TNA world title and making your midcard champion a laughing stock, try something new and reaffirm why wrestling matters and why bullshit booking such as the two current turns should have never been implemented.

 

[SaveUsCMPunk]

no one mentioned his heart is not really in wrestling (says he wants to quit in 4-5 years) so who cares about him anyways.

Well, you cared enough to post in this thread and I'm sure there are plenty of people (besides myself) that want to see him on top again. I haven't really been keeping up on the news, but I did read that interview you mentioned and I'm wondering if that's the reason he's being booked the way he is. I wish he would've been the focal point of Immortal (like Rock was to the Corporation), but Kurt Angle appears to be taking that role. It's a shame because I'd really like to see Mr. Anderson succeed in the wrestling business.

 

[UFOcalling]

Does anyone else see a problem with the Booking in TNA?, who the hell is heel and who the hell is face, one minute Angle is a babyface fighting against a heel Jeff Jarett, now hes a full blown heel fighting with Hogan against the Dixie regime, Anderson now is face after dropping the title to Sting and being beaten to a bloody pulp by Immortal.

This is the type of bullcrap that makes me want to switch off TNA and stop supporting the product, with every bit of good TNA attempts to do they overshadow it with their shoot from the hip booking and bad heel turn after face turn after heel turn.

Heres an idea why not just stick with a long term booking plan for your wrestlers, allow them to affirm themselves in there roles, stop hot potatoing the TNA world title and making your midcard champion a laughing stock, try something new and reaffirm why wrestling matters and why bullshit booking such as the two current turns should have never been implemented.

No, you're the first person I've ever heard say that TNA changes guys from heel-to-face & face-to-heel too often. Also the first I've heard that doesn't like the way TNA books their shows.

Just busting your balls a bit...but you're absolutely right, all these turns just seem to frustrate the loyal TNA fans and confuse the casual viewers (and/or people who exclusively read TNA spoilers/results online).

For all this "hot potatoing" you're talking about with the TNA World Heavyweight Championship, there have only been four different Champions in 2011 (Jeff Hardy, Sting, Mr. Anderson & Angle). Granted -- the WHC has gone back & forth a bit, but I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be. Four Champs over 7/8 months isn't too bad (especially since Angle just got the belt less than a week ago), although TNA does make more switches with their WHC than WWE does. I don't find it to be terrible, however...that's all I'm saying.

I also feel that TNA would benefit from leaving guys where they are for a bit longer (the heel/face turns, I mean). They would also benefit from keeping the World Title on a wrestler for longer than a month or two. I'd like to see the World Title stay on someone's shoulder for six months or longer, we haven't seen a "long" title-reign since Hardy's (and even then, I think he only had it for three or four months before dropping it to the returning Sting). Before Hardy, AJ Styles had the Title for a long time (he started his last reign back in August of '09, and held it until late March in 2010). Styles lost the belt to RVD, who kept it until August or September (2010).

There hasn't been too many changes in the last couple of years, at least IMHO. TNA only had three champs in 2010 (Styles, RVD & Hardy). So, since Hogan & Bischoff arrived at TNA (in early 2010), there have been a total of seven different Champions. Seven TNA Champs in a little more than a year & a half (somewhere between 18 & 20 months)...not as bad as you thought, right?

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

No, you're the first person I've ever heard say that TNA changes guys from heel-to-face & face-to-heel too often. Also the first I've heard that doesn't like the way TNA books their shows.

Just busting your balls a bit...but you're absolutely right, all these turns just seem to frustrate the loyal TNA fans and confuse the casual viewers (and/or people who exclusively read TNA spoilers/results online).

For all this "hot potatoing" you're talking about with the TNA World Heavyweight Championship, there have only been four different Champions in 2011 (Jeff Hardy, Sting, Mr. Anderson & Angle). Granted -- the WHC has gone back & forth a bit, but I don't think it's as bad as you're making it out to be. Four Champs over 7/8 months isn't too bad (especially since Angle just got the belt less than a week ago), although TNA does make more switches with the WHC than WWE does.

I do agree though, I feel that TNA would benefit from leaving guys where they are for a bit longer (the heel/face turns, I mean). They would also benefit from keeping the World Title on a wrestler for longer than a month or two.

Im glad you agree but I'm not comparing WWE to TNA here im looking at the overall product especially the World title picture, as a booker look at the way TNA books a guy like Anderson, he was a heel for a great deal of time in TNA before turning face and going against Immortal, Anderson then spent a great deal of time turning heel and complaining about losing the world title from Jeff Hardy, then turning full blown heel prior to joining immortal, the guy has only held the world title twice and with each reign has only lasted a minimal of a month with his second reign lasting a mere three weeks, now sting has held the title within a last couple of months twice, firstly by defeating Jeff and than defeating anderson. Anderson never had a chance to carry the company with each reign, he has only feuded with two people for that title and thus has not had a chance to defend the title against anyone else but sting and hardy.

Now if TNA was set on the change why not have Anderson defend against Angle, have Angle turn heel against Anderson with the aid of Immortal Anderson is cast out the same night and both turns have been accomplished, they didnt need to go two seperate routes in order to get the belt on angle which is the only thing that was accomplished, Immortal has had no one person carrying the stable and it makes them look weak and makes the World title look weak aswell because of the fact that it has not been the main centre of attention in these feuds its just been thrown on the current flavour of the month which is all it seems to be.

 

[UFOcalling]

Im glad you agree but I'm not comparing WWE to TNA here im looking at the overall product especially the World title picture, as a booker look at the way TNA books a guy like Anderson, he was a heel for a great deal of time in TNA before turning face and going against Immortal, Anderson then spent a great deal of time turning heel and complaining about losing the world title from Jeff Hardy, then turning full blown heel prior to joining immortal, the guy has only held the world title twice and with each reign has only lasted a minimal of a month with his second reign lasting a mere three weeks, now sting has held the title within a last couple of months twice, firstly by defeating Jeff and than defeating anderson. Anderson never had a chance to carry the company with each reign, he has only feuded with two people for that title and thus has not had a chance to defend the title against anyone else but sting and hardy.

Now if TNA was set on the change why not have Anderson defend against Angle, have Angle turn heel against Anderson with the aid of Immortal Anderson is cast out the same night and both turns have been accomplished, they didnt need to go two seperate routes in order to get the belt on angle which is the only thing that was accomplished, Immortal has had no one person carrying the stable and it makes them look weak and makes the World title look weak aswell because of the fact that it has not been the main centre of attention in these feuds its just been thrown on the current flavour of the month which is all it seems to be.

Agreed. TNA jumped the gun a bit with both of Mr. Anderson's title-reigns. I believe they're taking Anderson's character in a new direction now, where they'll trust him to hold the belt for a while (the next time they give it to him). I feel this whole feud he has going on right now between Bully Ray & Immortal will finally get him "over" all the way. Not just with the fans, but also with the TNA "higher-ups".

I have a feeling that after the smoke has cleared at BFG, TNA will have turned Anderson into a much tougher version of his Asshole-persona. Just as the WWE turned Steve Austin into "the toughest S.O.B. in the World Wrestling Federation", I have a feeling they have a plan that will make Anderson a real "tough-guy". I could be wrong, it's only a gut-feeling.

To be 100% fair to TNA, you have to understand that having Jeff Hardy fuck them over so badly at Victory Road (earlier this year) must have thrown a major monkey-wrench into their original plans for the World Title in 2011. I think all these heel/face and face/heel turns could be a direct result of that. Who knows how the booking would have been had Jeff not screwed up like he did, we might not have seen Angle win the title at all. I think that TNA had to push the "reset button" on all of their 2011 main-event storylines after Hardy's little "episode" at VR, and we (the TNA fans) have suffered greatly because of it.

 

[Deexter Jorgan]

Agreed. TNA jumped the gun a bit with both of Mr. Anderson's title-reigns. I believe they're taking Anderson's character in a new direction now, where they'll trust him to hold the belt for a while (the next time they give it to him). I feel this whole feud he has going on right now between Bully Ray & Immortal will finally get him "over" all the way. Not just with the fans, but also with the TNA "higher-ups".

I have a feeling that after the smoke has cleared at BFG, TNA will have turned Anderson into a much tougher version of his Asshole-persona. Just as the WWE turned Steve Austin into "the toughest S.O.B. in the World Wrestling Federation", I have a feeling they have a plan that will make Anderson a real "tough-guy". I could be wrong, it's only a gut-feeling.

To be 100% fair to TNA, you have to understand that having Jeff Hardy fuck them over so badly at Victory Road (earlier this year) must have thrown a major monkey-wrench into their original plans for the World Title in 2011. I think all these heel/face and face/heel turns could be a direct result of that. Who knows how the booking would have been had Jeff not screwed up like he did, we might not have seen Angle win the title at all. I think that TNA had to push the "reset button" on all of their 2011 main-event storylines after Hardy's little "episode" at VR, and we (the TNA fans) have suffered greatly because of it.

Hardy did mess with TNA a great deal but it still doesn't help guys like Anderson, he could easily have feuded with Bully Ray after his feud with Angle was completed, by throwing the title on Sting it did nothing for the company or the title whatsoever, it made Anderson look like a midcarder who was not good enough to hold the belt.

Anderson needs a chance to cement his legacy in TNA, and with the constant push and Depush of talent you cannot establish the division or the talent involved within it, there needs to be stories told and without the appropriate long term feuds to help tell those tales it makes the talent involved look worthless, in order to salvage Andersons push they need to allow him to work a long program with Bully Ray quiet like what they are doing with Pope and D von, with each vignette, each promo, each match you can feel the frustration, all these two will need is the eventual payoff which is something TNA has not been known for.

 

[UFOcalling]

Hardy did mess with TNA a great deal but it still doesn't help guys like Anderson, he could easily have feuded with Bully Ray after his feud with Angle was completed, by throwing the title on Sting it did nothing for the company or the title whatsoever, it made Anderson look like a midcarder who was not good enough to hold the belt.

I think TNA only put the belt on Sting right after his return to the company as a way to "sweeten the deal". TNA might have written that into his contract: "...if you sign a new one (or two) year deal right now, you can win the Title your first night back...". Sting could have also said that he wanted the title for "X" amount of days in early 2011, or maybe TNA felt they couldn't trust anyone else to hold the belt. Besides, who's more over than Sting? Certainly not Mr. Anderson. Know what I mean?

Anderson & Angle already had a lengthy feud not too long ago (within the past year), the fans would have bitched about another "rehashed storyline" if they were feuding again so soon. Seriously, there would have been a LOT of complaining about it (especially on this site, I imagine).

Anderson needs a chance to cement his legacy in TNA, and with the constant push and Depush of talent you cannot establish the division or the talent involved within it, there needs to be stories told and without the appropriate long term feuds to help tell those tales it makes the talent involved look worthless, in order to salvage Andersons push they need to allow him to work a long program with Bully Ray quiet like what they are doing with Pope and D von, with each vignette, each promo, each match you can feel the frustration, all these two will need is the eventual payoff which is something TNA has not been known for.

First off, I can't believe that entire quote is all one big run-on sentence. Bravo to you, for managing to squeeze a few commas in there, next time try using some periods as well (yes, I know you put a period at the end of the giant sentence. Bravo, again). It will make your post easier to understand.

Where do you think Anderson's current storyline is going? Do you think that he's just gonna disappear from TNA all together? He's going to feud with Bully Ray when he returns, if you can't see that then I don't know what to tell you. I don't know how you can look at the first segment from Impact last night (when Immortal jumped Anderson) and not just see GOLD "in them thar hills" for this storyline. Seriously, how can you say they're not doing it correctly? Yes, they've misused Anderson in the past...but it looks like they're on the right track with him now. They're getting Bully Ray over like crazy too. I know that Ray has worked hard on his look and his character, but he still needs a good story to get over with. TNA is doing an excellent job with the Anderson/Ray feud right now (at least IMHO).

I have already said this, but I'll repeat it for your sake: I bet this Anderson/Ray feud (which isn't over yet) will allow TNA to really push Anderson to the moon...as long as it's booked correctly, and so far they're doing an excellent job with it (based on what happened last night, and what happened at HC Justice). Why are you still complaining? Sit back, and wait to see if they fuck it up or not. I bet you'll be pleasantly surprised, if you just wait to see how this plays out. There's no use bitching about the unknown, it's just a complete waste of energy.

Also, if you honestly think the Pope/Devon feud is something the Anderson/Ray feud should strive to be, then I don't want to argue anymore. Seriously, I'm done if that's the case.

 

[Brian in Austin]

I hope that what we're going to see is a repackaging of Mr. Anderson back to his original character. Maybe he comes back and says that in his quest to achieve the world title, he had forgotten where he came from and what got him to 'the dance', and so he's decided to return to his roots and what made him who he is, which is MIIIISSSSSSSSSTTTTTEERRRRRRRR ANNNNNNDDDERRRSSSSOOONNNNNNN.................

ANNNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRRRRRSSSSOOOOONNNNNNNN!!!


Sorry about that!! LOL

 

[C.M PunkFan10]

I believe Mr.Anderson will be a popular heel.Reason why I think he'll be a
popular is because he has his own way of doing things.Some people like it and
others don't.They way he carries himself down to the ring and they way he talks on the mic is just another reason for people not to like him.

 

[UFOcalling]

I hope that what we're going to see is a repackaging of Mr. Anderson back to his original character. Maybe he comes back and says that in his quest to achieve the world title, he had forgotten where he came from and what got him to 'the dance', and so he's decided to return to his roots and what made him who he is, which is MIIIISSSSSSSSSTTTTTEERRRRRRRR ANNNNNNDDDERRRSSSSOOONNNNNNN.................

ANNNNNDDDDEEEERRRRRRRRRSSSSOOOOONNNNNNNN!!!


Sorry about that!! LOL

No need for an apology! I also hope that Anderson reverts to his old gimmick, and maybe drop the whole "Asshole" thing all-together. I have a feeling that the mid-card feud he's currently having with Bully Ray/Immortal means big things are coming for Anderson.

I've said many different things (but all along the same line) about how this feud could/should play out. Obviously we'll see Anderson vs. Ray at Bound For Glory, we might also see a match between these two at No Surrender. I guess that depends on how long Anderson is gone (selling the beatdown from Immortal, that happened this past Thursday on Impact).

I seriously doubt that Ray will be in the BFG tournament finals, I bet Anderson will either cost Ray a lot of points (so he doesn't make it to the finals), or Anderson will show up at No Surrender to cost Ray the match. Either way, we'll see another match between the two of them by BFG in October.

My hope is that this feud is TNA's way of getting Anderson over as a "tough S.O.B.". Bully Ray even told Anderson that he thinks he's a "tough S.O.B" last Thursday on Impact. I think that was a bit of foreshadowing, and Anderson will come out of this feud even more "over" than he was before. Remember the Austin/Bret match in WWF when Austin wouldn't tap? When the blood was flowing down his face, and he was screaming in pain...but still wouldn't tap. That match was Austin's turning-point, it's the match that made him a superstar. I hope TNA has something similar in mind for Anderson, either at BFG or soon after that. That would be their smartest move right now, as they don't currently have a lot of main-event level babyfaces on their roster.

 

[Brian in Austin]

No need for an apology! I also hope that Anderson reverts to his old gimmick, and maybe drop the whole "Asshole" thing all-together. I have a feeling that the mid-card feud he's currently having with Bully Ray/Immortal means big things are coming for Anderson.

I've said many different things (but all along the same line) about how this feud could/should play out. Obviously we'll see Anderson vs. Ray at Bound For Glory, we might also see a match between these two at No Surrender. I guess that depends on how long Anderson is gone (selling the beatdown from Immortal, that happened this past Thursday on Impact).

I seriously doubt that Ray will be in the BFG tournament finals, I bet Anderson will either cost Ray a lot of points (so he doesn't make it to the finals), or Anderson will show up at No Surrender to cost Ray the match. Either way, we'll see another match between the two of them by BFG in October.

My hope is that this feud is TNA's way of getting Anderson over as a "tough S.O.B.". Bully Ray even told Anderson that he thinks he's a "tough S.O.B" last Thursday on Impact. I think that was a bit of foreshadowing, and Anderson will come out of this feud even more "over" than he was before. Remember the Austin/Bret match in WWF when Austin wouldn't tap? When the blood was flowing down his face, and he was screaming in pain...but still wouldn't tap. That match was Austin's turning-point, it's the match that made him a superstar. I hope TNA has something similar in mind for Anderson, either at BFG or soon after that. That would be their smartest move right now, as they don't currently have a lot of main-event level babyfaces on their roster.

Interesting that you bring up Austin as I recall some weeks ago there being quite a bit of conversation about Anderson in the same category. I felt like it was something that could be entertaining in that Anderson could fill that gap between heel and face, but also know in retrospect that he's a bit undersized for the part. Now, with that said, I agree you could be right about the tough sob thing and maybe it's what they've decided to do with him. My biggest issue with TNA and Anderson is that I feel like they've wasted time with his character moving him between heel and face too frequently and now they don't know what to do with him. So, take him off tv for a few weeks until you can figure out how to package him.

1. You can't sell the audience on a Sting/crow type of character, meaning this seemingly unbeatable force as it's already been done.

2. You can't go to the ahole well again.

3. His personality doesn't fit a full-fledged face. (a la John Cena.)

He's just a tough nut to crack in terms of booking/writing.

 

[killer425]

well he's obviously going to have a fued with Bully Ray as a face everybody know this

and I wonder how much longer he will be with TNA I mean he's like what 36 and I think he just awful in the ring I don't think he'll make it another 2 years JMO

 

[killer425]

I am really surprised though he didn't have the belt longer though I thought him and Sting could have had a much bigger and longer feud

 

[Alittude]

Well everyone that's been complaining about Anderson's character turns look a bit silly now. He came back on Impact totally badass and whooped Immortal and the crowd was going nuts. This will make him way more over as a face than he ever was before. I think it was done well and has been entertaining the whole way through. People hate on angle's before their done and this is anothjer example as that. Everyone was saying how TNA have ruined Anderson forever lol ridiculous he will be a completely over babyface now and be one of the biggest in the company. Before he was a tweener then heel so this was a good road to make him a legit babyface imo as it gives him a violent hate filled feud against the biggest heel faction in TNA.

 

[marker]

I also liked anderson's return on the last impact as a bad ass. Hopefully he will stop crying about the n-th rematch and kick some ass.

 

[Bill.]

Yeah, apparently he's out. Plus, apparently Kurt Angle won the World Title with help from Hogan & made a heel turn. I sincerely hope he doesn't join Immortal. They seriously need to end it. T's gotten terribly boring, & it's essentially a poor man's nWo. I searched up an nWo & an Immortal promo on YT, & they're essentially the same:

-Big, main even groups come out(led by H. Hogan & E. Bischoff)

-Bischoff leads promo about storyline.

-Hulk Hogan gets final word.

Then whatever happens after happens, but you get the point.