Monday Night War Diary

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

I'm watching the Monday Night War series like any Attitude Era fanboy should. I thought I'd just make a note of the stuff I'd not known previously so that we could all dicuss about it. Currently, I've just finished episode 2.

-Sting was the second choice for the third man behind Hogan. Wonder how that would have panned out? I guess nWo would have still been big but possibly not as popular in the mainstream. Also wonder what Hogan would have done in this case.

-Kevin Sullivan of all people convinced Hogan to embrace the darkside by telling him that it was the bad guys who were cool these days. The example he gave was that of Undertaker. Does that make Taker the first "cool" heel of wrestling?

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Sting would've been an awful choice. Not because Sting is awful, but because we would've been forced to watch Hogan chase and destroy the nWo for a few years. In 1987? Sure. 1996? No.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Yeah, that's what I've been thinking. Hogan would not have surrendered his spot to anybody.

Bischoff certainly talks a lot about nWo but there has been little mention of Sting as "The Crow" so far. Would really like to hear some stories about that.

Also, while the documentary is nice, its very repititive. They say the same thing more number of times than Hogan says brother.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

-Lawler had the job for selecting the "Ho" Train in every city. Says the girls would be immensely grateful to him for giving them a chance to be on national television. Well, that's the most honest a guy has ever been on TV about casting couch.

-Vince says that he always did stuff to better his own product, never did he do stuff to harm the other product. Vince, I like you, you crazy old man, but we know about Survivor Series 1988.

 

[A11oftheLights]

Survivor series was to better his product, he couldnt have bret hart not drop the title and do some bullshit that degrades the title. It also made his product better because the heel character of Mr. Mcmahon was created. I also dont see how screwing Bret Hart damages WCW, it improves it if anything as Bret Hart would have/should have become the biggest babyface in pro wrestling but WCW was a clusterfuck and blew it

 

[Vega]

He talked about 1988. I won't into the other topic.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Survivor series was to better his product, he couldnt have bret hart not drop the title and do some bullshit that degrades the title. It also made his product better because the heel character of Mr. Mcmahon was created. I also dont see how screwing Bret Hart damages WCW, it improves it if anything as Bret Hart would have/should have become the biggest babyface in pro wrestling but WCW was a clusterfuck and blew it

1988 and 1997 don't even look similar.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

-Loved the episode on Foley. Best underdog story ever. I also liked the story of him changing his moveset in ECW to get over as a heel. I wonder if anyone else has ever done that. A lot of people could benefit from a move like this....

-On the episode regarding DX....I have come to the conclusion that Triple H's DX was much better than Shawn's. I know Shawn likes to think of himself as some degenerate badass but he came off more as a wannabe gay pornstar with some of his antics in DX.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Just saw the Bret Hart episode. What I cannot understand is this. Bret did not want to go to WCW in 1997. Vince told him, per what Hart says, that there wasn't much planned for him past 1997. If that is true, I fail to understand why that is the case. Even if you want to do Shawn vs Austin, I'm pretty sure that there was something Bret could have done. A feud with Rock or Triple H maybe. Hell, why not insert him into the Undertaker/ Kane storyline in some way...

Something tells me that Hart would have agreed. You should never let go of a guy like Hart. And when Shawn got injured, can you imagine how good it would have been to have Bret around?

Vince himself says that Bret is the type of guy you can build the company around. So why let him go? It just makes no sense.

 

[Vega]

Probably because he wasn't worth the money he was getting in Vince's eyes. Typical Vince move: he gave a huge contract to counter WCW's offer, then changed his mind when it didn't suit him anymore a year later, used Bret's benevolence to get him out of it and then screwed him over on the way out. Best for business dammit!

And Vince might have known the program would get edgier an edgier and Bret was not a fan of this.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Just watched the Austin episode. It was surprising to hear that he was not considered a good interview guy in WCW. I thought that his stuff in the Hollywood Blondes was pretty entertaining. Just check out stuff like "A Flair for Old". They were like a PG DX.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

Damn, I saw the Goldberg vs Regal match for the first time and it all sorts of bad. People talk about Hogan and Warrior being bad in the ring but Goldberg kind of takes the cake in my book. The guy literally had no idea what was going on.

 

[Hulk Hogan's Brother]

So in one of the funnier moments of the series, Bischoff says that he did not push Jericho because the main event was filled with huge people and no one would have believed that Jericho could take them down.

Guess what WWE did when Bischoff said all this. They show us a match between Ric Flair and Bret Hart!!! Two main eventers who are not giants.

Gotta love the WWE sometimes.

 

[MrHashasheen]

Damn, I saw the Goldberg vs Regal match for the first time and it all sorts of bad. People talk about Hogan and Warrior being bad in the ring but Goldberg kind of takes the cake in my book. The guy literally had no idea what was going on.

It was like his twentieth match ever, IIRC. Regal claims he and Goldberg had a long lengthy match planned out that Goldberg just forgot and froze on, while Goldberg says the veterans were taking advantage of him in the ring because he was so green and trusting.