Mark Madden: Right or Wrong?

[CJ The Pirate]

Please, If you would, take a look at Mark Madden's latest editorial on Wrestlezone.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/editorials/article/so-you-want-to-work-in-wrestling-no-you-dont-78801

In the article, he claims that Vince Mcmahon has wrongly embarrassed Vickie Guerrero in the storyline leading to her quitting as GM.

Let's Recap. Vickie was moved to Raw which is seen as the Flagship show by Vince and that has to be a good thing. She was inserted into a feud with Santino in which he called her a pig. Yes, insulting but handled humourously. That feud included Vickie winning the Miss Wrestlemania title. Vickie was portrayed as a strong character and not weak or pitiful in anyway. The feud culminated in a Hogpen match where she (Along with Chavo I might add) was covered in Pig swill. Nice. She then proceeded to Quit the following night on Raw and then Divorced by her Husband. She screamed chillingly whilst on her knees and that is how the Story of Vickie will end.

This is disrespectful according to Madden. Why? Vickie was a heel. She was despised and people really were waiting for the day she'd quit. As brilliant as Excuse Me! was... it wasn't just hateful... it was annoyance. And that makes people changed the channel. What would the fans want more? Vickie to bow out with her head held high or should she be humiliated... just like every other heel GM has gone out to. Heyman left because he refused to work under Bischoff and had a temper tantrum about being drafted to Raw. Bischoff was thrown out into the garbage. Kurt Angle was given the Throaty 'You're Fired' from McMahon himself. As much as I'd have loved Vickie to have left the company taking the Miss Wrestlemania title with her and put an end to this Santina nonsense, the fans wouldn't have bought it and would have constantly been awaiting her return. This has ended everything for her. It was the only way.

Vince owes Vickie nothing. He certainly does not owe her a new husband. That's an awful thing to say. Eddie dying was devastating and I'm sure Vickie hasn't had an easy time of things lately. Vince employed her and gave her something to do in an environment she could stay close with some of Eddie's closest friends and her family member Chavo. She was doing exactly what Eddie loved to do and as for the whole Edge storyline being a bit controversial... Latino Heat? How many women did Eddie kiss during that storyline? Naked Shower Scenes. Visiting the Playboy Mansion. I'm sure Vickie wasn't too thrilled by that but she knew it was just a role. I'm not Christian but if I'm wrong and Eddie is in Heaven looking down then he won't be crying that Vickie took that storyline. Because that is all it was.

As for the Logic 101 part, Babyfaces are selfless and should have saved Batista... How on earth has Madden got this job? The attack was done because Batista needed to be written out. It was a good segment and was played out well. Should Cena or MVP come out and got involved? No... because they have their own agendas and storylines. If Cena got involved then his Big Show storyline must take a backseat. It's not good TV. The whole Faces stick together thing is one of my least favourite parts of WWE and I for one am glad that it doesn't happen as often as it used to.

I watch a lot of films and I like films that make me think that the lead characters have got everything sorted and its all gonna be cool from the end point on. You dont have to think about events beyond the credits. It's just all happy and no more evil is gonna come. I love films that make me think after I leave the cinema. Where the good guy doesn't come out of it entirely smelling of roses. Die Hard is a big favourite of mine and the Willis comes good in the end everytime... but you're left feeling quite sombre and moved by Saving Private Ryan... so Ryan gets the edge there. My point is simply how boring would Raw be if Orton never won?

 

[modest-genius]

He's wrong. Because Madden posts an anti-WWE, anti-Vince McMahon blog every single week of his sad life. I don't think he can accept the fact that WCW was killed by WWE.

Every single thing Vince does is utterly wrong in his opinion. Which is just stupid, I wish he would drop it and talk about something else for once. It's because of him stupid rumors like Flair and Vince getting into arguments, Vince and Shawn getting into arguments, McMahon going senile and such are created.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

Where as I agree 100% in blasting Vince when called for, based on a decision of his, quality of the programming, etc. I do think Madden deliberately goes out digging for anything he can possibly find to consciously bash Vince with.

However, that doesn't take away from the fact that he may very well have a point. As long as Vickie has been employed by Vince, isn't it convenient that he has never done an angle like this, that personally insulted her physique, calling her a "pig" and a "she-beast" .... UNTIL she put her notice in?

Very interesting.

 

[Slyfox696]

I disagree with Madden about Vickie. Vince didn't do that stuff to Vickie to humiliate her, he did it for entertainment value. Vickie was a heel, so she got the heel sendoff. I don't think anything bad was done.

I DO agree with him, however, on the face/heel logic. In fact, I was thinking that very thing when it was happening. I know that wrestling today isn't like it used to be, where there were very clear lines between the good guys and bad guys, but still. Like he said, heroes are supposed to be selfless and stand up for all goodly people.

 

[Muttley]

I remember reading an article about how Lita felt a little disrespected on her way out of the WWE. Maybe it's just a final boot to the ass for the people who ask for their releases from WWE. Did Jericho get an embarrassing send off the first time he headed out to try out his music career??

Lita did the same thing because she wanted time off to work on her music and her band and after her last match in WWE, Cryme Tyme came out, stole, and "auctioned" off items of Lita to the audience...I don't know how Lita could take that as disrespect, because Vickie did get the worst of the two...hog pen match, pig slop, she-beast, insults. Of course Vickie didn't do as much as Lita did for WWE, but she was still a part of WWE.

 

[Alex(Killer Of Dreams & Legends)]

I disagree with Madden , It was an excellent send off for some one with a lot of heat on her already. When was the last time a send off like this happened ? The ones that come close to mind are only the spirit squad send off getting shipped to Louisville.
Madden Get a life just cause you don't like the wwe does not mean you can come up with up surd rumors and some of the most stupidest comments I have ever read . I would like to Invite Madden to come to the forums and just see what he says . He has no business being a supposed wrestling reporter when he is so bias to one group .

 

[tigerball]

I have to wonder how much of this Vickie actually came up with. She could have easily walked if she did not like the storyline.

 

[EtherBoo]

I think it was too over the top, and honestly, most of it was completely necessary.

On the flip side, Vickie didn't have to agree with any of it. She could have said she doesn't feel comfortable with people making fun of her physique on national television and being called a pig.

The worst thing about it is that he may have actually buried her too much. If she ever comes back, it will be hard for anyone to take her too seriously... after all, she is the one who got used for her power by Edge, and was called a pig as she had slop thrown all over her on national television.

We all knew Edge was going that route, be in the process, he ended up taking away his heel heat. It probably would have been better for Chavo to get a face push, and try to hang out with Edge at a PPV, only for him to say he never liked him and just used his aunt for power. It probably would have been more effective, or make Vickie a face in her last month and have Edge dump her now that she is useless.

Just my 2cp.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Oh Mark, are you ever right? I rarely agree with Madden's opinions, but I usually get a few laughs out of it. I have yet to see him make a positive comment about anyone under 50 years old. I am pretty sure Vickie could have bailed if she was uncomfortable with anything. It was a great payoff for everyone who endured her all those years. Well it felt like centuries. I will continue to read all of his editorials, simply for the comedy.

 

[JJYanks121]

I'm keeping it short I hope. The last month wasn't the first time Vickie's weight was made fun of. Triple H did it basically as soon as he got on Smackdown last year and Cena called her disgusting when he faked being interested in her to get into the title match. That part of it I think she's ok with, and the other part.....it's comedy. Keep in mind HHH was the last man to lose a match like that and he bounced back. I think she will too.

As for the face/heel thing, it gets too predictable. I hate sitting there with my buddy who I watch Raw with every monday and thinking "who will come out to save the face getting beat down". If guys have an alliance (Rock and Mick Foley), then it makes sense for one to come down and help the other. However, for random faces to help each other is over the top and overly predictable. I'm glad it played out the way it did, even if we knew they did it to write Batista out. Some people are just negative because they will never be satisfied. Half the posters on here are, and so is Mark Madden.

 

[klunderbunker]

First of all, Madden is majorly wrong about one thing. He claims it's Vince's fault that Eddie passed away. I in no way, shape or form will ever believe that. Eddie died because of years of substance abuse and I guaranatee you a lot and probably the great majority of that had nothing to do with Vince. No one was forcing pills or booze down Eddie's throat and it certainly cannot be blamed on Vince. That's just ridiculous. Eddie would have passed away wrestling for a company wiht a total of 38 fans just as easily as he would have in front of WWE crowds. Vince is as liable for Eddie's death as any fan, which is to say not at all.

As for the column itself, that's bullshit. Vickie has been around for a few years and was an on screen authority figure that drew good heat. THat's good, but she's not headlinging any shows that I recall. She was above average but never really was all that big of a deal. As Sly said, she was a heel. Heels get embarassed and faces get cheered because of it. That's not disrespect: that's logical booking. Vickie did a very good job in her time there and should be greatful she got what she got. had Eddie lived, I can almost guarantee you we wouldn't be seeing much of Vickie. She got the job because of Eddie and she should be thankful that Vince took care of her. Madden, as usual, is wrong.

 

[Razor]

I guess Madden forgot the fact that Vickie is a heel. If Vickie were face he would have quite a large leg to stand on. Oh, wait. She was being torn apart by a heel. Edge, to be exact. There was no other way to do this. The only thing that would have changed was crowd reaction. If Vickie were face, the crowd would boo Edge and try to cheer Vickie up by cheering for her. If Vickie were heel, the crowd would boo/cheer Edge and look on with indifference when Vickie started crying. If, say Cena were to do the goodbye maybe you could make a case. But damn. What other way does Madden want Vince to have done this? A Flairesque send off? A "You did a lot for this company!" parade? A "I'm only doing this because of your dead husband!" party? Fuck Madden, fuck. What does the guy want?

I'm a fan of the old-school face/heel lines. The faces should stand by their fellow faces. It's what they do, after all. But Cena or MVP shouldn't have made the save. Those face/face defenses should really only be saved for faces within the same storyline when you have a storyline as immense as the Legacy/Batista, McMahons storyline. Because of Cena and MVP were to show up they'd be forced into the feud, which was about to be taken up by Triple H in about an hour and a half. Maybe if Cena wasn't getting fucked up by two heels at once and MVP was getting ready for his first main-event feud Madden would have something.

 

[SinCityBlitz]

First of all, Madden is majorly wrong about one thing. He claims it's Vince's fault that Eddie passed away. I in no way, shape or form will ever believe that. Eddie died because of years of substance abuse and I guaranatee you a lot and probably the great majority of that had nothing to do with Vince. No one was forcing pills or booze down Eddie's throat and it certainly cannot be blamed on Vince. That's just ridiculous. Eddie would have passed away wrestling for a company wiht a total of 38 fans just as easily as he would have in front of WWE crowds. Vince is as liable for Eddie's death as any fan, which is to say not at all.

As for the column itself, that's bullshit. Vickie has been around for a few years and was an on screen authority figure that drew good heat. THat's good, but she's not headlinging any shows that I recall. She was above average but never really was all that big of a deal. As Sly said, she was a heel. Heels get embarassed and faces get cheered because of it. That's not disrespect: that's logical booking. Vickie did a very good job in her time there and should be greatful she got what she got. had Eddie lived, I can almost guarantee you we wouldn't be seeing much of Vickie. She got the job because of Eddie and she should be thankful that Vince took care of her. Madden, as usual, is wrong.

Thank you. People forget that Eddie was popping pills and drinking like crazy in WCW. Vince sent him to rehab and also fired him to get him straight.

 

[blair4107]

I'm a fan of the old-school face/heel lines. The faces should stand by their fellow faces. It's what they do, after all. But Cena or MVP shouldn't have made the save. Those face/face defenses should really only be saved for faces within the same storyline when you have a storyline as immense as the Legacy/Batista, McMahons storyline. Because of Cena and MVP were to show up they'd be forced into the feud, which was about to be taken up by Triple H in about an hour and a half. Maybe if Cena wasn't getting fucked up by two heels at once and MVP was getting ready for his first main-event feud Madden would have something.

I agreed with the comments on Vickie's send off not being that bad. Had she felt disrespected by any of the actions said or done in her tenure she could have easily just refused to go out and walk away, as many have done. She knew what was going to be said, for shit's sake they aren't mad-libbing. Her send off was no worse than Mike Adamle, Eric Bischoff, Lita, JBL, Chris Jericho, or others. Are you a heel? You plan on leaving the company? Not really looking to stick around long enough for a last season face turn? Then you really don't have much of an alternative. Kane has been with WWE for 14 years, but if he decided to quit during a heel run they wouldn't really be able to stop and throw him a Ric Flair-like commemoration. Had Ric Flair quit during Evolution do you think his send off would have been the same? I don't.

Now as for the quote, I disagree about how faces should only save people within their own storylines. First off even with this Legacy vs the World story arc having had so many people taking part most of them have slowly dropped off from the storyline. Remember this all started as Legacy vs the McMahons, then it changed to Legacy vs the McMahons and Triple H, enter Batista and lose another McMahon, lose another McMahon and Triple H and it's just Legacy vs Batista. Also they already had Triple H planned for a last-minute beatdown so all the faces involved would be busy.

Faces should save ANYONE in peril, face, heel, or neutral. Granted this tends to turn the heel being beat down into a face it wouldn't have to. I believe Madden had a good point, it wasn't just that no faces even tried to stop the beatdown it was that it would have been better had they set it up in a situation where no one COULD intervene. RAW could have started with Batista being interviewed or just shown in the parking lot, backstage area, locker room, etc. Locker room especially would be easy because 2 Legacy members could attack Batista while 1 barred the door and then joined in on the beatdown while ANY of the faces could have tried to get in unsuccessfully.

 

[d_henderson1810]

Please, If you would, take a look at Mark Madden's latest editorial on Wrestlezone.

http://www.wrestlezone.com/editorials/article/so-you-want-to-work-in-wrestling-no-you-dont-78801

In the article, he claims that Vince Mcmahon has wrongly embarrassed Vickie Guerrero in the storyline leading to her quitting as GM.

Let's Recap. Vickie was moved to Raw which is seen as the Flagship show by Vince and that has to be a good thing. She was inserted into a feud with Santino in which he called her a pig. Yes, insulting but handled humourously. That feud included Vickie winning the Miss Wrestlemania title. Vickie was portrayed as a strong character and not weak or pitiful in anyway. The feud culminated in a Hogpen match where she (Along with Chavo I might add) was covered in Pig swill. Nice. She then proceeded to Quit the following night on Raw and then Divorced by her Husband. She screamed chillingly whilst on her knees and that is how the Story of Vickie will end.

This is disrespectful according to Madden. Why? Vickie was a heel. She was despised and people really were waiting for the day she'd quit. As brilliant as Excuse Me! was... it wasn't just hateful... it was annoyance. And that makes people changed the channel. What would the fans want more? Vickie to bow out with her head held high or should she be humiliated... just like every other heel GM has gone out to. Heyman left because he refused to work under Bischoff and had a temper tantrum about being drafted to Raw. Bischoff was thrown out into the garbage. Kurt Angle was given the Throaty 'You're Fired' from McMahon himself. As much as I'd have loved Vickie to have left the company taking the Miss Wrestlemania title with her and put an end to this Santina nonsense, the fans wouldn't have bought it and would have constantly been awaiting her return. This has ended everything for her. It was the only way.

Vince owes Vickie nothing. He certainly does not owe her a new husband. That's an awful thing to say. Eddie dying was devastating and I'm sure Vickie hasn't had an easy time of things lately. Vince employed her and gave her something to do in an environment she could stay close with some of Eddie's closest friends and her family member Chavo. She was doing exactly what Eddie loved to do and as for the whole Edge storyline being a bit controversial... Latino Heat? How many women did Eddie kiss during that storyline? Naked Shower Scenes. Visiting the Playboy Mansion. I'm sure Vickie wasn't too thrilled by that but she knew it was just a role. I'm not Christian but if I'm wrong and Eddie is in Heaven looking down then he won't be crying that Vickie took that storyline. Because that is all it was.

As for the Logic 101 part, Babyfaces are selfless and should have saved Batista... How on earth has Madden got this job? The attack was done because Batista needed to be written out. It was a good segment and was played out well. Should Cena or MVP come out and got involved? No... because they have their own agendas and storylines. If Cena got involved then his Big Show storyline must take a backseat. It's not good TV. The whole Faces stick together thing is one of my least favourite parts of WWE and I for one am glad that it doesn't happen as often as it used to.

I watch a lot of films and I like films that make me think that the lead characters have got everything sorted and its all gonna be cool from the end point on. You dont have to think about events beyond the credits. It's just all happy and no more evil is gonna come. I love films that make me think after I leave the cinema. Where the good guy doesn't come out of it entirely smelling of roses. Die Hard is a big favourite of mine and the Willis comes good in the end everytime... but you're left feeling quite sombre and moved by Saving Private Ryan... so Ryan gets the edge there. My point is simply how boring would Raw be if Orton never won?

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Firstly, I can't stand Mark Madden. He is a pitful, bitter, fat man who was a lousy commentator in WCW, and hates on the industry because he feels that they don't promote him enough. In other words, they see that he is useless and call him out on it. So I don't pay attention to anything Madden says.

However, I will pick you up on one point. You say that Vince owes Vickie nothing. Not true. She is entitled to any monies as due the remainder of Eddie's WWE contract. Eddie couldn't fulfil his whole contract, because he passed, so Vince should have kindly paid out the remainder of Eddie's contract to Vickie to help her and her children. It is not like Eddie breached his contract, so Vince should have done it in good faith. So, he owed her that at least, for all the service and bums on seats her husband contributed to WWE for all those years.

 

[CJ The Pirate]

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However, I will pick you up on one point. You say that Vince owes Vickie nothing. Not true. She is entitled to any monies as due the remainder of Eddie's WWE contract. Eddie couldn't fulfil his whole contract, because he passed, so Vince should have kindly paid out the remainder of Eddie's contract to Vickie to help her and her children. It is not like Eddie breached his contract, so Vince should have done it in good faith. So, he owed her that at least, for all the service and bums on seats her husband contributed to WWE for all those years.

Fair enough, I'll grant you that but I was talking more in regard to personal debt than legal. Chances are that has already been paid also.

I don't get the comment made that Vickie, were she to come back one day, would find it hard to redeem herself and be taken seriously after the last time she was really seen was with Pig Swill all over her. Something I intended to touch on in my original post was that Vince doesn't use gunge to completely bury people on their way out... In fact I remember DX dropping a ton of shit on top of the entire McMahon family. Austin has drenched McMahon in beer and made him piss himself on National TV, a clip which must get a replay at least once a year ever since. Chris Jericho also referred to his daughter as a dirty, disgusting, vile, bottom-feeding, trashbag ho on more than one occasion. The McMahon's have a sense of humour and are not afraid to put themselves in the firing line and be embarrased themselves. Vince more than most. A Pig Pen match really isn't that big of a deal. Being called a Pig and a She-Beast isn't that big of a deal.

I will be very surprised if we see a headline on Wrestlezone or any other news site where Vickie decides she wants to openly trash the WWE and Vince McMahon.

 

[Mitchguy]

Usually I disagree with Mark Madden on pretty much everything, and I'm not in total agreement with his views here, but I will say that I got a similar feeling while watching the treatment of Vicki over the past few months. These days, the fall of kayfabe has made it hard to separate storyline from reality.

I think it's the fact that the widow of one of the more beloved wrestlers to die young was being called a pig on a weekly basis and rolling around in pig crap that did it. It made me uneasy because these days I have a lot of trouble overlooking the real life issues for the sake of entertainment. I know not everybody feels the same way, and I'm just putting forth my perspective.

One of the reasons I think that it's seen as ok is what Mick Foley pointed out while the Legends of Wrestling panel was discussing the Dr. Heinie sketch mocking Jim Ross' surgery. Mick pointed out that Vince has no problem letting himself be humiliated and degraded and expects everyone else to be willing to do the same. It's along similar lines to why Vince doesn't like it when people put other priorities ahead of WWE. Vince works around the clock on the WWE. Everything he does is devoted to the company, so he expects the same level of commitment from his employees. I think that is a part of the reason he takes it personally when someone leaves to do something else.

The Jericho and Lita exits are often used as similar examples, however they serve to illustrate the difference I'm talking about. From all accounts, Jericho being carried out after being fired was fine with him. Lita, on the other had was unaware of how she was going to be sent off. I had the same uneasy feeling when Lita was humiliated after her last match. It has nothing to do with face or heel alignment because people know it's entertainment now. Prior to his expulsion from Raw, Jericho hadn't spent months having his real life dirty laundry aired for all to see. It was still easy to separate the real life from the character. Now, the Lita and Edge pairing was the best thing to happen to Edge, but I got the same uneasy feeling during Lita's exit as I did during Vicki's, and giving Lita high note to go out on would have let Edge carry on and she could have salvaged her self respect. It was like they were kicking somebody who was already fragile without considering how the person feels.

Again, where I disagree with Mark Madden is that I don't think the intent was malicious or the motive vindictive. I think it goes back to Vince being willing to be humiliated in the name of entertainment and expecting the same from everybody who works for him.

Late Late Show host Craig Ferguson said in regards to why he would not be making any Britney Spears jokes after her head shaving "comedy should have an element of joy in it. And I don't see any joy in making fun of the vulnerable." That sums up my feelings on the matter.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

As usual, most of what Madden is spewing is what should be coming out of his ass into a toilet. The guy's entitled to his opinion, but the guy constantly bashes McMahon over every single little thing he does. I have to agree with other comments about the guy being bitter. Personally, I think Madden did a shit job as commentator on WCW and is bitter about not getting a shot in WWE. He bashes Vince for this and that, but it just sounds bitterly pathetic. If Vince called him up and offered him a big, fat salary to work for WWE, Madden would take it in a heartbeat and not look back.

Now, do I agree with everything Vince has done, of course not. Is the guy known as an asshole, of course he is. He's the owner of the biggest wrestling company in the world. You don't get to be #1 in the business world at anything by being a goody-two-shoes pushoever. However, blaming him for Eddie Guerrero's death is complete bullshit. Guerrero died due to complications arrising from years of substance abuse. Do I think Vince has sort of looked the other way in the past? Yes. However, it's not up to Vince McMahon to police the lives of the men and women who work for him. They're not children but grown men and women that have to take responsibility for some of the choices they've made in life. Vince is always the convenient scapegoat, the ever-present boogeyman of professional wrestling that can be blamed for every seemingly negative aspect of professional wrestling.

As for Vickie Guerrero, it was a proper send off for someone that's, arguably, had more heel heat in the WWE than anybody else in the locker room. Nobody got booed as much or louder than Vickie Guerrero. If she hadn't agreed to go through with it, do you honestly think she would have? And if Edge had just sprung it on her all of a sudden by saying things that hadn't been scripted, at least not to her, why not just leave the ring then and there? Vickie was in on it.

I think Madden needs to get a life. Seriously, his devotion to consistently bashing Vince McMahon is really making the guy look like just another sad, bitter individual that was basically forced out of the major league wrestling scene. We know, we don't care, get over it.

 

[Paradox100]

Mark Madden, the man who is upset because nobody has cared for him since WCW. And not many people cared then. Mark needs to stop thrashing Vince for every decision he makes. Sure, some of the decisions Vince make are a little over the edge. But Madden seems like the guy who when, Vince does the tribute to the troops, he says "He doesn't care for the troops, all publicity."

He thinks WCW was enjoyable? Please, WCW was TNA. But, back to the main point, the Legacy segment was good. When it looked like he snapped his wrist, it made me cringe like hell. (From experience, snapped wrists are INSANE)

Vickie is a heel, she got the usual heel sendoff. If she was a face, she would have respectfully resigned, and screwed the heels out of something. But since she is one of the most hated on-screen people in WWE, they gave her the sendoff people wanted to see. Madden is probably just sad that Vince didn't hire him after the Invasion angle.

 

[kingdirrtysouth1]

Did she get the send off she deserved? I know she was a heel, but did really deserve to get degraded the way she did? It would be one thing if she was going to TNA, but she leaving to be with her daughters. Is this how the WWE repays her, by forcing her to roll around in mud, make snorting sounds when she laughs and to have Edge label her a she-beast? I think she deserved better, but that's just me! Saying that he was only using her for power was one thing, attacking her physical appearance was another!

 

[CJ The Pirate]

In films or TV Series like 24, If one character says to the other character "You are one ugly motherfucker" then it's safe to say that that character has been described as an unattractive fellow who fucks mothers. Literally speaking.

The key here is that it's the character who is being insulted. Not the actor. The actor will most likely be unattractive but that won't be news to him. I personally feel that I am a 7/10 in the looks department. My best friend would confess to being a 4/10. Most people know exactly where they stand. The actor will also have pre-read the script and if he felt that the line 'Ugly' was unnecessary to the story he would have said something.

Now, stop me if this sounds a little far fetched but is it completely off the wall to think that Vickie and Edge wouldn't have spoke to each other before he called her a she beast? It's an act and just like any actor, she gets to say what she wants to do and what not to do. And just like any actor... if she is completely unwilling to anything that wouldn't paint her in a good light then the employer has the right to release her from her contract.

I personally am game for pretty much anything... dress me up as a woman, swim 10 lengths naked, drink a cocktail of 100 spirits (Don't do this... just a warning) In the name of comedy I will do it. Who are we to say that Vickie has a rod shoved so far up her ass that she isn't able to laugh at herself. She asked to leave... maybe she suggested the manner in which her exit was carried out.

 

[Alex(Killer Of Dreams & Legends)]

well what other way could you end it . At least they closed the whole VIcky / edge story and did not leave us saying are they still married. She was the most hated GM in recent times and plus I dont think vince pushed that last angle on her she could have not showed up or not gone threw with it so mark madden wrong /

 

[Joehaha]

in regards to the insulting vickie thing...JoMo called edge bug eyes this week on smackdown..edge isnt going anywhere, hes the companys top heel arguably, so if he can get insults about his features why cant vickie? daft!