La Familia

[Instant Classic]

What is everyone's opinion on this faction? I think it's great that Edge has got his own faction as it puts him so over as a heel that you know he has 4 or 5 guys ready to help him. And you know that whoever takes the title off him will have to overcome huge odds to do it. This is one of WWE's best stroylines/factions in recent years and I think they need more of this kind of storylines and ideas to help there ratings. And while I didnt like the Edge/Vicki storyline to start off with I see that it has grown into a great faction similar to how JBL's cabinet worked a few years back but even JBL never got heat like Edge and Vickki are getting its amazing how much heat they are able to generate at the moment. Its almost laughable when Edge uses a 5 on 1 advantrage to win matches and its great for making him out to be a cowardly heel that you love to hate. I think WWE should keep this going for as long as possible as I think it is very entertaining and entriguing to see who can manage to overcome the odds. I think it also gives Ryder+Hawkins a purpose and helps them get over as heelsso when they are ready to be a full time tag team they will be instantly known, and I think Edge can help mould them into prehaps the next Edge and Christian.

 

[klunderbunker]

I'm not a fan of it. It's nice to have a faction again, but this one to me just isn't intimidating. For one thing, it's name is awful. I get what they're going for, but there's one person of Latin descent in it. Second, women in factions are supposed to be either hot, or intimidating. Vickie does neither of these things. Hawkins and Ryder, I don't remember the last time they won a match to be honest. Chavo is little more than a midcard wrestler, and while Edge is awesome, they have made him into the most cowardly, weak looking heel in the company other than maybe Orton. The faction is a ecent idea, but it looks to me like it's just a bunch of lower talent thrown together.

 

[DeadmanInc.]

I don't really like it either. No offense to Vickie, but Edge really needs another Lita. He still uses the "Rated-R" gimmick yet he hasn't done anything "explicit" since Lita left. Their characters were alike so they worked well together. IMO, the faction should be Hawkins and Ryder + Some hot rocker woman (not Ashley for godsakes).

Also I don't think Edge should be so dependent on his faction. I understand that he is the "Ultimate Opportunist" but when he needs 4 other people to help him in matches, he only comes out looking weak. There's a difference between being a heel that can only win by cheating (like Santino) vs a World Champion Heel. Edge should be able to show off his wrestling ability more and only depend on interference when he is about to lose.

 

[4realpeoples]

La Familia works well and it gets everybody in the faction over as a heel. but it looks like the faction is gonna fall apart. with Chavo looking like he doesnt want Edge as his "uncle" i think Chavo & Bam are going to turn on Edge at the "wedding" and that will be the beginning of Edge's reign as World Heavyweight Champ.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

People are getting down on La Familia but I really don't understand why. The faction was never meant to be a "Powerhouse" type of team. It was meant to be a group of unused talent, all formed under Edge to give multiple people roles in which they didn't previously have. Lets take a look.

Chavo Guerrero: Prior to this, his biggest claim to fame (unfortunately) was being remembered as the late Eddie Guerrero's relative. He was only still with the company, because in some manner Mr. McMahon has a heart and doesn't wanna cut him. So he allowed him to stay on, because of how much Chavo has given up, and put effort into doing for the company.

None the less.. when the Vickie Guerrero/Edge storyline came around, it allowed Chavo to manipulate his Family's legacy yet again.. and its given him a bigger role to fill. A role thats even included a run as E.C.W. World Heavyweight Champion. I doubt very seriously he ever would've won that Championship, had it not been for this faction being born.

Curt Hawkins and Zach Ryder: Anyone remember the Major Brothers? If you do, its because you're incredibly bored and allowed your brain to hold that useless bit of information. Sadly, I can say that, however most wrestling fans can not. Hawkins and Ryder weren't anything before this. However...

When Edge reclaimed the World Heavyweight Championship at Armageddon, it was with the help of these two "look-alikes" and it was a great angle. (Kinda ironic how its an 'angle' when Kurt Angle was also the last guy to have something similar to this, with his Team) At any rate.. Hawkins and Ryder were going nowhere fast, and they were speeding to get there on top of it. When Edge and the idea of La Familia came along, it gave two guys who were with one foot out the door.. a second chance to become something. Now, I personally think they're a good team. They have a new look, no longer just "Edge-alikes" and they are a solid (actual) team, with the ability to become possibly bigger. Never would've happened without this group.

Bam Neely: Okay, while I don't have much.. the fact is, Batista wasn't shit until he broke into the business as D-Von's box holder. Bam is doing the exact same thing, in a different manner of speaking. Hes the "muscle" to this group, and while he doesn't provide tons of roles, or involve himself greatly.. when he does, he does what hes suppose to, to a Tee.

Without this group, Bam Neely likely wouldn't even be on the damn show, and who knows what this will lead for him.. but the one thing I do likely know, without it, it wouldn't of lead him anywhere.

Finally...

Vickie Guerrero: I see people saying "Edge needs another Lita" and "Vickie isn't Lita." Well no shit, I'm glad people's eyes still work, while their brains have went on Summer vacation. The fact is, Vickie was never put into this role as any type of "Lita" replacement. But what she was placed in this role to do.. is exactly what shes doing.

Vickie Guerrero is gaining more heel heat by the show, than any other heel in the business today. Thats un-fricken-real. Vickie Guerrero, all because people randomly assume that a widow isn't suppose to move on once her "other" has passed away.. has taken a HUGE amount of stress, and heel heat, all because she plays to the a-typical moron who believes its wrong for her to make a living with this.

A.) Eddie Guerrero is NOT rolling over in his grave. If anything, hes proud of what she's become in the business, because he'd see how successful she's made herself look. With or without using him, afterall.. Eddie would've done the same thing. (It was his fricken motto anyways)

B.) Vickie Guerrero is NOT disgracing her Family. Just like Eddie, I'm betting each and every one of her Family members (not being paid by T.N.A. to say otherwise) are completely happy that she can continue in this business and support her Family. Oh, by the way, just because Eddie passed away.. incase someone forgot, that doesn't automatically mean Vickie or their Children's lives ended too.

Overall, whether you like it or not.. this faction wasn't meant to be great, but its done a great job of being better than it was previously assumed to be. Thats quite honestly one of the reasons I believe its still going on. Fans didn't start reacting hugely to Vickie until about a month ago.. it took them close to 3 to get this type of heat, but now that they have it.. they'll rework the plans and likely run as long as they can with it.

 

[Mr Wrestlemania]

I think La Familia is pretty neat. It's a way for Edge and Chavo to get more heat, and for Chavo to become a stronger heel. Hawkins and Ryder reeeeaaally need to set themselves apart from Edge somehow as their new attire still doesn't stop me from thinking of them as "those Edgeguys." Bam Neely is still pretty new, and Vickie is the biggest freaking heel of them all. Everytime they come out they get JBL heat. Good stuff.

 

[DeadmanInc.]

Well, the faction leader is supposed to be Edge, yet Vickie is stealing all the heat. And it's not even the "good" heat. People boo her because she is just plain annoying (horrible acting, nails-on-chalkboard voice), not because of her antics. I hope this angle ends with Edge betraying Vickie. Hopefully Edge actually gets boo'ed for it. Given the amount of heat that Vickie gets, it may just go the other way.


A little off topic but I also agree that Eddie would be happy that Vickie is continuing in the business that he loved.

 

[a7xoff]

I'm with Will. I really don't see why people talk down on La Familia as far as them not being a good faction is concerned. They are a different type of faction compared to say Evolution who was essientally a powerhouse with Orton, HHH, and Batista. La Familia I see as an open door for guys like Ryder, Hawkins, Neely, and Chavo to establish themselves as better heels in the buisness. With that being said. I would not be surprised to see members of La Familia continue to be at least mid card once the faction breaks up. Out of everyone in the faction. I feel that Vickie has benifited the most for one key reason

1.) Edge: Once this whole love relationship thing with Edge began, Vickie began to get some heel heat. Over the course of a few months as La Familia formed her heat has been on the rise due to her relationship with Edge. She's created matches that in every which way would benifit Edge. Example... TLC Edge vs Taker...

The only guy who I feel is loosing a little bit of.... I don't want to say ability to win on his own... I'm not sure what to call it... Any who... The guy I'm talking about is the same guy who is responsible for a lot of Vickie's heat... Edge... La Familia has made Edge look almost incapable of winning a big match on his own as his faction is always there. Very similar to Evolution with HHH. Since Edge is all about oppertunity as opposed to being brutal like HHH, I think the whole faction bailing him out all the time is more of a hurt on him then help due to the fact that he really has not been taking ultimate oppertunities himself, rather the faction has for him.

 

[ChosenOne]

Chavo Guerrero: Prior to this, his biggest claim to fame (unfortunately) was being remembered as the late Eddie Guerrero's relative. He was only still with the company, because in some manner Mr. McMahon has a heart and doesn't wanna cut him. So he allowed him to stay on, because of how much Chavo has given up, and put effort into doing for the company.

Chavo isn't as bad as you portray him. He is remembered as a product of Eddie not because of his request, but by the image Vince has instilled into the audience. How do you know Vince even wanted to cut him? Because you don't like him? He can work, which is something the WWE can always use, and these angles keep him over by association, and I would hardly considered him some product of Vince's goodwill.

 

[Golden Standard]

The Faction stinks. Vickie no offense sucks! Bam Neeley i mean he is just another big muscle dude who cannot wrestle. Hawkins and Ryder are okay and Chavo has just bored me now. And Edge he is better off on himself. La Familia will be done very very soon.

 

[the_brama_bull]

I think the faction is a great idea. I am not a big fan of Edge and Vickie or Chavo for that matter which go to prove that it is a great faction. Vickie is reciving so much fan heat it is incredible. But the question is how much longer can this really work?

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Chavo isn't as bad as you portray him.

You're right, hes likely worse. Because "I" don't see him as horrible at all. "I" seen him as a great performer, and a slightly above average wrestler. Hes not what I'd consider World Heavyweight Championship material, which is why I spoke negatively of him. (if you call it that) But overall, I think hes a great wrestler.. he just can't get over without using his Family name.. which was only famous, because of his Uncle.

He is remembered as a product of Eddie not because of his request, but by the image Vince has instilled into the audience.

I hate to be the guy to burst your bubble, but Chavo Guerrero was "viewed" as a by-product of Eddie Guerrero and the Guerrero Family through his days in W.C.W. Before they had him feud with Eddie, he was just "another Guerrero" who was barely known, and did next to nothing in their over-stacked Cruiserweight division.

When he feuded with Eddie, he suddenly became a decent to good wrestler that was known, however known for who his relation was.. not for his talent.

How do you know Vince even wanted to cut him? Because you don't like him?

I don't know for a fact anymore than anyone I'd assume. However I did hear a rumor that the only reason Chavo is still around is because he IS willing to go through stupid gimmicks just to stay. (Kerwin White)

On that note, while the gimmick was never meant to be anything to shove him into World Heavyweight Championship roles.. it was meant to get him over, and it failed, very miserably. Which is yet another reason to see that Chavo, without using his Family legacy, can not make it.

He can work, which is something the WWE can always use, and these angles keep him over by association, and I would hardly considered him some product of Vince's goodwill.

Would you mind giving me a couple examples of performers currently in the company that can't? I mean.. this is kinda a piss poor argument, since every Professional Wrestler in the W.W.E. & T.N.A. who're on the main program should be fully capable of "working" in some manner or another, be it wrestle, or talk. Chavo is average on the mic, and above average in the ring.. however "above average" (in the ring) doesn't mean hes overly exciting to watch. It just means he isn't as horrible to watch as "Super Heavyweights" since he can actually move.

 

[tehblogger]

I'll say this at least: La Familia has kept Smackdown watchable for months now as it has feuded with a superhuman Taker. If it weren't for that angle they couldn't have prolonged the Edge/Taker feud for as long as they have, which probably would have meat Edge getting buried and Taker/Batista for months on end (heaven save us!).

That apart, it's pretty decent in itself and has done good things for its members. Hawkins and Ryder have gone from no-hope jobbers to solid (and rapidly-improving) tag team, Chavo will likely wind up with the US title, Neely gets a start, Vickie gets to be the most hated person on the whole damn roster (does the reason really matter so much?) and Edge...yes, he's been made to look a bit weak, but that can easily be fixed, and he a decent title run with the WHC, so I doubt he's complaining too much.

 

[Miko]

i think this faction is okay, i dont love to hate them like i did Evolution but it has been good for its members.
After all if it wasnt for La Familia' we never would have had the pleasure of watching Chavo take CM Punk to school in all of their matches, Hawkins and Ryder are actually quite good, i'd love to see Miz and Morrison take a sort of face turn and fued with them, Bam Neely has yet to have any effect on me. I would agree with other posts though, it makes smackdowns top heel look very weak, hopefully this can be changed

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I just real sick of seeying these idiots week after week and what was done to the Undertaker is a bad thing for TV cuz WWE needs ratings. and having stupid angles to push people off TV isn't good product.

Actually, its a great angle and it pushes people to bitch and moan (such as what you're doing right now) over the whole situation. It drags more viewers in, because you're so pissed off that you wish to see them get whats coming to them in the end. And if you quit watching, then you'll never know what truly happens in the end and its your own fault.

All you truly want is for every face to always win, and every heel to always lose. Why? Because thats the catagory you fall into as a stereotypical wrestling fan, who isn't open to new ideas.

Its the same crap every week with these bozos.

I love how you complain about it being the same crap, and above you even mentioned that its driving ratings away.. yet for weeks you've sat and continued watching, week after week, after week, all the same exact "crap" as you put it continue.

Hmm, apparently something within this "crap" must be enjoyable to you, for you to continue coming back for more. Well, I mean its either that or you're a complete fricken moron, who has no idea how to quit watching. I'm sure you aren't the latter though, I mean.. noooooo. I'll just assume you enjoy shit. I know I do.

They need to get rid of the GM and strip edge of the title like they did tot he undertaker.

Why would they strip a heel? How does that make any sense? I agree that in the end the GM shall be removed, because thats whole the storyline would logically end. That or she turns face, and with the single greatest amount of heel heat shes getting, I doubt she'll ever be capable of being cheered again.

i quit watching smackdown until things change.

I'm sure they'll miss you. Don't forget to tune in on Raw for your chance to win One Million Dollars!

 

[Y 2 Jake]

It's a poor faction. Everyone is so high on Edge (overrated imo), that's the only reason it could possibly be popular. The real MVP of the group is Vickie Guerrero. Heat magnet. If it wasn't for her Smackdown would almost be as bad as Raw. It would be a boring show. So you find her annoying. Well she is a heel, kinda the point of her. She coule interact with Funaki, and he'd come away better off. That doesn't happen with many wrestlers of his caliber.

The rest are just there. You could replace them all and I wouldn't even notice. But I do think they have potential. All they need is a rookie who's got potential, and have Edge as his mentor. I'm suggesting Cade. Or even a post heel turn Matt Hardy in the group would instantly make it better.

 

[JimiJam]

Yeah. That is what factions are missing these days. Turns. Remember the beginning of NWO, or the corporation, when HHH turned on DX. It was BASED on heel turnsand it was GREAT booking. Taking a fan favorite and turning them heel into a faction is the perfect way to garner more heat and more credibilty for a heel faction. Problem is, they don't have a lot of over faces on SMACKDOWN! to turn heel that would actually make an impact.

 

[shaunbaby]

lol well by judging from some of these posts the Familla is doing its job just fine, i think the only thing wrong with them is the underling(Chavo, Bam Neely, Rated R-my), they dont seem to do anything but get their asses handed to them every friday.

Id love to see them turn into a dominant force now Undertaker has gone for a while, because the R-my where just Takers whipping boys.

 

[RBH]

Now that Undertaker is gone for a while, Las Familia can use this opportunity to play their role as "wrestler killers if you will" They have eleiminated the Undertaker and now have their sights set on batista. Whoever gets drafted into the Smackdown Title picture will be the next person to challenge Edge for the title and that will also be the newest threat to La Familia.

They need to have more nights where they end up beating the face contender and have their hands raised like Evolution did. It provided more entertainment and drama to have the heels winning almost all the time because if the faces always win it becomes tiresome and predictable and ppl tune out.

Therefore, they need to have La Familia beat up Batista or whoever is challenging Edge for the title on a more recurring basis. They have to look strong in order to be a stable that will be remembered.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

I'm gonna make the prediction of Umaga as new La Familia stable member. They need an enforcer. I suppose Bam Neeley might have worked. But Matt Hardy defeated him easily the other week. Batista was taken out by Umaga on Smackdown. i expect that to be the case this Sunday at NOC as well. I don't see Big Dave winning. With Umaga on team it shouldn't harm him to lose either.

 

[wwesince2004]

I enjoy this, Though hawkins/rider/chavo/bam are all just jobbing for edge during a match (they all run out and get chokeslammed by taker)

I hope that edge retains at NOC while Trips looses to cena (After intereference from edge + minions for some reason). Then we can have Trips vs Edge at GAB

At GAB have either

1: No DQ match, during the match Trips gets a beat down from Edge and Minions. Taker comes out and makes the save causing Trips to gain the WHC and a taker vs edge final match at SS

Taker vs Edge at SS, Looser goes to Raw. Edge Wins

2: Normal Match, Ref is down, edge and minions beating Trips down, Taker comes and makes the save but this either
A: Causes a DQ
B: During the comotion Edge Spears Trips and gets the pin
This leads to a Edge Vs Taker match at SS. At SS the winner of the match retains, the looser goes to raw (Thus Sending Taker to Raw)

Option 2 can then Lead onto Edge vs Trips (over what happened at NOC/GAB)/Edge vs Kennedy (Over MITB Last year)


The second option sounds more reasonable seeing as Vince's Likes Edge as the champ



Either way i would enjoy some crap like that, Would make La Familiar Great

 

[chasingamy]

I'm gonna make the prediction of Umaga as new La Familia stable member. They need an enforcer. I suppose Bam Neeley might have worked. But Matt Hardy defeated him easily the other week. Batista was taken out by Umaga on Smackdown. i expect that to be the case this Sunday at NOC as well. I don't see Big Dave winning. With Umaga on team it shouldn't harm him to lose either.

The last couple weeks I’d started feeling that La Familia was growing stale. Umaga might be just the thing to breathe life back into Edge’s stable. Neely’s played a very minor role in La Familia, basically just standing in the background. With his size and power, Umaga is more physically imposing than Neely. And while he hasn’t been booked well in some time, it won’t take long to reestablish his monster status. While others have tried and failed to get Umaga to do their bidding, Edge succeeded Friday night, directing Umaga’s post-match beatdown of Batista. And with Trips now on board, clearly it’s going to take more than Chavo, Hawkins, and Ryder, especially when the latter can’t even take care of a midget. Besides I have a feeling Chavo will turn on Neely seeing as how he hasn’t gotten the job done and begin a feud with him on ECW. The only thing I disagree with is Umaga costing Tista the title at NOC. I see him screwing HHH. That way Edge remains the WHC and welcomes Umaga to the family and it sets up a HHH-Umaga feud for GAB. I think the La Familia storyline works best when Edge is the champion.

 

[chasingamy]

In light of recent events (Edge losing his WHC last week on Raw and calling off his wedding to Vicki on Smackdown), the La Familia stable appears to be in serious trouble. Edge said he now stands and will struggle alone, having lost all his support (Vicki shut him out, Hawkins and Ryder have done nothing to help him). There was no mention of Chavo though.

Personally I think Hawkins and Ryder will remain by Edge’s side at least until the Great American Bash, but they will turn on him. Aligning with him hasn’t really elevated their careers as you’d expect. For many, it’s still hard to tell them apart and they’ve made virtually no impact on the tag division. I really expected a tag title run for these guys in the last six months. They could have accomplished just as much as The Major Brothers.

I see Chavo siding with Vicki. Granted Edge helped him win the ECW title, but he didn’t do anything to ensure he kept it. Chavo never seemed comfortable with their relationship, the idea of Edge as his uncle, or the baby cousins they might have had, lol. I also don’t think Chavo ever fully trusted Edge as I recall a few episodes where Edge kept trying to get Chavo to trust him.

I’ll admit La Familia was starting to get a bit stale the last few weeks before Night of Champions. Still I’ve enjoyed the storyline and they have become a staple on Friday night. I think it’s a little too soon to disband them. I think there is more for them to do (like help Edge get his world title back).

So I’m curious if others think that we’ve seen the last of La Familia as a cohesive unit? Will they patch things up next week? Will its members take sides?

 

[klunderbunker]

I think with what happened with Edge the other night on SD, La Familia is in for either a massive change or it's ending. There's just nothing left there now. Who's their big star, Chavo? Without Edge as their star, they've got nothing. They never really were an official stable in the first place, more just closely associated. If they were to disband, I'd hardly miss them as they seemed almost minor league at best. Edge was the best they had, with Vickie being great at drawing heat, but with just her, Hawkins and Ryder, Chavo and Neeley, who I don't ever recall having a match yet, you don't have enough to have a good stable with, so I'd say they're on their last legs.

 

[FromTheSouth]

Chavo can't side with Vickie. He would have to turn face. Edge can't do that because no matter what happens he will have major heel heat coming off a feud with HHH. Chavo turning face to fight for Vickie's honor wouldn't work. Live crowds hate Vickie (I don't know if it's her character or just that her voice is annoying as shit and she's Dolph Lundgren bad at acting), and that won't change. They would turn Edge face on their own for dumping her if it wasn't for the fact that he is fighting the super over face champ in a couple of weeks.

La Familia will either have to break up inexplicably with no resolution to the stories withing the group dynamic, OR they can go the comedy route with everyone trying to impress Edge (wrestlers) and trying to get the wedding back on (Vickie). Imagine Ryder and Hawkins getting their asses kicked week in and week out by running in on matches with Edge's opponent. Edge could sit in the corner and watch them get Pedigreed, double chokeslammed, throw through doors, run over by cars, whatever. Vickie could get more heel heat by wearing lingerie (gross) or trying to be sexy (gross), or romantic (gay).