Kurt Angle - Has anyone noticed?

[noone911]

Has anyone noticed the way Kurt Angle acts and the "rumors" about him recently? Honestly, I rarely watched Smackdown so he may have changed there. But when I think of Kurt Angle I used to think of a nice guy and a great wrestler. These days you hear about how people were getting annoyed with him in the WWE and now rumors in TNA. But that's fine, I guess rumors start about everyone at some time.

More importanly to me is the way he acts on camera. Granted it's for show, but more and more recently I find myself not liking Angle, which is great for a heal and honestly I can't even tell what he's supposed to be. His vignettes make him come off as a jerk talking about how great he is, again, fine if you're a heel. Then he doesn interviews where he says everyone wants him and he's the greatest and he'll beat anyone.

The Kurt Angle I like to think of is the American hero Angle and the one who drove a milk truck to the ring.

Has Angle changed? Is he better now? Is it just a gimmick? I'm curious as to what everyone thinks.

 

[NoUrRoll23]

i dont think angle has made that big of a inpact on TNA as every thought he would i think he has changed 4 the worse n every body already knows hes going to get the belt sooner or later i just dont see him as nothin all that big n TNA he only has to do 4 shows a mth 2 tv tapings 4 inpact 1 for PPV and 1 for a house show

 

[iamwrestling]

Angle's changed. He changed in the WWE. He went from the American Hero to a furious wrestling machine (that name fit him perfectly). He wants nothing more than to wrestle to solve his problems. And I think that it started as his character and he kind of turned into that in real life.

 

[bwaller]

Angle is full of himself. I dont argue his skill but he is not as "big" as he thinks he is in terms of drawing fans and having an impact on the product. The guy would be 10 x's better if he didnt run his mouth about being the "greatest". He actually believes what JBL says.....Kurt thinks he is a "wrestling god".

Brian

 

[iamwrestling]

I think Angle is just super psyched about coming to TNA and trying to make it take off immediately, which isn't going to happen. And yes, Kurt Angle is as big as he thinks he is when it comes to drawing fans. The only problem is that nobody seems to want to give TNA a chance. I don't know why. I mean, the second that I hear about a new wrestling promotion I automatically like to give it a chance. If you don't like it, then don't watch it. But why miss out on something that could be really entertaining to you?

 

[ErkBono23]

i have given TNA a chance..and the problem is they dont understand with todays world u must have more then just wrestling to make your brand established...while SOME of there wrestlers r good at wrestling they extremely lack mic skills and a position to further their character..russo is tryin to change this as uve seen a lil bit of change within ideas but if they never understand to progress on the mic and other things they will never become competition or anything diff

 

[Brilliance In Supremacy]

i have given TNA a chance..and the problem is they dont understand with todays world u must have more then just wrestling to make your brand established...while SOME of there wrestlers r good at wrestling they extremely lack mic skills and a position to further their character..russo is tryin to change this as uve seen a lil bit of change within ideas but if they never understand to progress on the mic and other things they will never become competition or anything diff

I know what you mean...however, you must understand that TNA is supposed to be an alternative to WWE. Since TNA has been on Spike, I've watched it to get away from weak storylines, soap opera-like talking, and conventional wrestling. And miraculously, TNA was that. Since Russo came, things are changing - some for the worse and some for the better.

For most nonchalant fans of wrestling, mic skills are a necessity. I do believe that they are beneficial if you want to make it big...but there are ways around it. Just look at Chris Benoit.

To sum up my argument, mic skills are overrated.

 

[iamwrestling]

i have given TNA a chance..and the problem is they dont understand with todays world u must have more then just wrestling to make your brand established...while SOME of there wrestlers r good at wrestling they extremely lack mic skills and a position to further their character..russo is tryin to change this as uve seen a lil bit of change within ideas but if they never understand to progress on the mic and other things they will never become competition or anything diff

I think over the past year the wrestlers in TNA have gotten waaaaaaaay better on the microphone. Allow me to go through the list of wrestlers that are good on the mic:

Abyss: Has James Mitchell do all the talking for him and James Mitchell is phenominal on the mic. He's great because he always tells a story with what he's talking about and makes you see the story clearly using great detail. That's why he's so great.
AJ Styles: As a face he never really got to talk a lot, but now as a heel he's great on the mic. He's so good that he managed to turn himself from the most loved wrestler in TNA by the fans into one of the most hated wrestlers in TNA. He talks like a champion.
Alex Shelley: He's got awesome mic skills and always has fresh material to make you laugh in his segments with Nash. He's always entertaining and I think that's why people love him.
Austin Starr: He's only talked a few times since he's only been here in TNA for about two months now, but he seems so irrogant and cocky he's easily hated and with Nash training him on the mic he'll be even better. And he's already decent.
VKM: Before they turned to VKM I found them annoying, but lately their segments have really entertained me.
Team 3D: Brother Ray speaks with a lot of intensity and that's what makes him good. He always gets straight to the point with nothing in between and always has the crowd's attention.
The Naturals: They have Shane Douglas do the talking for them. Originally I wasn't sure what to think of Douglas as a manager but he's really good. It always keeps you watching when the Naturals are out there because they're demanding respect.
Chris Sabin: As a face he was no good, but as a heel he's perfect. He just seems naturally hateable and he seems so cocky and irrogant as a young kid with the way he talks.
Christian Cage: Do I really have to say anything. I mean the guy's probably the best heel on the mic ever.
Christopher Daniels: He's so good because he has a presence about him that keeps you wanting to watch him and on the mic he speaks with such intensity.
LAX: Konan always talks on the mic great and I think as a manager he's one of the best of all time. He has everyone hating them so much.
Jeff Jarrett: Like him or not, the guys a great heel with tremendous mic skills.
Kevin Nash: Simply hilarious. And so easily hated.
Kurt Angle: He talks in just the right tone on the mic and always keeps it interesting.
Raven: His demonic type of tone is what makes him so good.
Rhino: The way he always talks with such fire is what makes him great on the mic.
Robert Roode: He's so easily hated and he's so good in my opinion. He reminds me completely of Ric Flair.
Samoa Joe: On the mic Samoa Joe is good. He talks just the way his character acts. Sick to the core. He loves to just destroy his opponents and that's the way he acts on the mic.
Sting: Originally he always sounded cartoonish on the mic, but he's gotten a lot better lately. I'm not sure what happened, but that new look may have something to do with it.

People who can't talk good on the mic:
A1: Not really a wrestler any more.
Runt: Not really even a guy that needs to talk because he's basically about fighting.
AMW: Horrible on the mic.
Eric Young: I just find the whole character lame.
Jay Lethal: Too generic.
Sonjay Dutt: Acts horrible and should be a heel.
Lance Hoyt: Never talks any ways.
Truth: Hate the whole rapping thing, but he's not really a major player in TNA any more so no biggie.
Petey Williams: What Canadian with great wrestling ability ever has character (besides Chris Jericho). He reminds me of Bret Hart and Chris Benoit.

so in reality most of the wrestlers in TNA do have good mic skills and the storylines are much better lately. Like the whole Abyss having good in him and Sting having evil in him is great. Joe v. Angle rematch being for one last time is awesome. LAX v. AMW is really a solid tag team storyline. The Naturals trying to overthrow the dudleys is really entertaining. Styles having an attitude sway and feuding with Rhino is really awesome. I love that storyline. The storylines are getting much better. If they get two hours the storylines will be top notch storylines combined with great wrestling and then TNA will peak.

 

[spacephantomx]

God the only reason I'm watching TNA is watch my favortie wrestler of all time the Wrestling Machine Kurt Angle the next NWA champion!

 

[Jonny B]

I know what you mean...however, you must understand that TNA is supposed to be an alternative to WWE. Since TNA has been on Spike, I've watched it to get away from weak storylines, soap opera-like talking, and conventional wrestling. And miraculously, TNA was that. Since Russo came, things are changing - some for the worse and some for the better.

For most nonchalant fans of wrestling, mic skills are a necessity. I do believe that they are beneficial if you want to make it big...but there are ways around it. Just look at Chris Benoit.

To sum up my argument, mic skills are overrated.

I think also what you have to look at is yes there are people on the TNA roster that don’t have the best Mic Skills in the world, but like you hinted at with your Chris Benoit Statement, if the person is talented in the ring, you can overlook the lack of charisma. But if you have people that are not great on the mic or in the ring then their starts to be a problem, or even people that are just good on the mic, in my book if you cant put on at least half decent matches you should use your charisma for Managerial services.

 

[TheRealLionheart089]

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yep, it looks like Angle has changed...

 

[NoUrRoll23]

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yep, it looks like Angle has changed...

lol ur full of crap that 1st pic. was why bac pro. the 1st time he won the WWE title u no its been a while cause he still had hair

 

[swimfan619]

Kurt Angle is one of my favorite wrestlers but I'm now believing that his whole coming to TNA has all just been hype and nothing else. Since he came to TNA, he has done absolutely nothing to prove he's the greatestwrestler in the world. Yes he's fought Samoa Joe twice but both of those matches were nothing but hype. I thought those matches would be Match of the Year but I came off feeling ripped off. TNA put so much pressure on Kurt that now I believe he's cracking under the pressure. I believe Kurt is trying to put it in his head that TNA is better. Kurt in WWE was a Wrestling Machine. In TNA, Kurt Angle is a Ken Shamrock wannabe and that is not impressive. I bet WWE is laughing at Angle because as of right now TNA's ratings are going nowhere but maybe down. TNA need to market wrestlers who hasn't been with the WWE becuase using WWE rejects is doing nothing but bring the company down.

 

[Kasey]

^Actually, Impact's ratings are up. Not much at all, but certainly not enough to spell a doomsday prediction. Even some of the biggest stars don't find their proper niche upon jumping from one ship to another. Besides, Angle's last segments on Impact were definitely worth the price of admission. Hell, he made a miracle when he actually had me genuinely interested to hear about something Jim Cornette was going to say. Kurt Angle has always been patterned after Shamrock. The difference being that he wears USA colors and swears more. Hell, he uses the guy's finisher, for pete's sake. Actually, WWE is still pissed because one of their most credible wrestlers left a dying show and the show is dying faster now, with more of it's stars reportedly ready to follow Angle's lead and get the f**k out of dodge. If there is a steady mix of athletes used from both than TNA will be fine, and that's what I think they're doing now. They're using one of their top prospects in Samoa Joe and having him get the first submission over Angle in ages. If that's not character/credibility establishment, than I don't know what is. Abyss is homegrown and he's sporting the strap right now. So is Daniels. It's not like they let Angle run right in and wear the belt. The first thing they're doing is letting the fans know that the TNA wreslters can go head-to-head with the WWE elite and do good, even come out on top in some of the cases.

 

[A_Good86]

the above comment makes a hell of a lot of sense.
just imagine an invasion angle from the mass exodus of ECW stars??? Imagine seeing RVD, Sabu, heyman, Dreamer coming in. Maybe with a few other former WWE stars. Say a mark jindrak, sean o'haire. And use Christian Cage as the heel to lead this anti-TNA (WWE) army. And then send them to fight a bunch of TNA originals. Say joe, daniels, abyss, styles...
Maybe TNA will get this angle right???

 

[Mr.SmackDown]

His gimmick has changed. Went he first went into the WWE, he was a fun loving guy who jokes around and represents the USA with red white and blue. Now, he wears a mouthpiece, yells his head off, wears all black, and is a "Wrestling Machine".