King of Swing

[chicagokmc]

Ever since becoming a Heyman guy, I've noticed a sharp decrease in use of the Cesaro swing. Heyman started off calling him the King of Swing and that stopped also. When with Swagger/Zeb he used in primarily every match. But since the battle royal and affiliation with Heyman not so much. I don't have a problem with that. It's a funny a move when you first see it, but moves like that and the airplane spin you don't typically associate with serious championship contending wrestlers. at least not in today's wrestling.
Also, it's a move that gets audience pop and that doesn't fit him now if they are really trying to make him a top heel.

Do you miss it and do you think Cesaro needs it?

 

[J.J.]

Remember the Equalizer is his finishing move -Mankind I guess you could say "needed" the Manibal claw as does Santino with the Cobra because there's the use of a prop. But remember, Mankind also used the double arm ddt as a secondary finisher too. Airplane spin - It serves as a setup but even wrestlers like Stone Cold who got good pops off the Lou Thesz Press but that didn't make or break him as a star if he didn't use it. Cesaro got himself over with the move but needless to say I.still think he will be a big star.

 

[TheJF]

The way I see it, is that "The Swing" was getting good face pops and cheers. Since Heyman is a heel, as a default Cesaro is also a heel. With that in mind they take the swing away to minimise the cheers, I imagine that once he becomes a face again we may see the swing. If not I'm entirely fine with him showing displays of strength in other ways, such as suplex variations etc.

 

[bioshock]

Either way to me WWE screwed up on it, I think in the grand plan WWE wanted Cesaro to be a major heel to feud with the likes of Reigns and Cena down the line. They should of just went the route of him being a face and forgot about putting him with Heyman, not many guys get over so easily like he was when there not even suppose to be a fan favorite.

 

[Softcore Holly]

I'm guessing they're "saving it" for when Cesaro eventually turns face. Not that I was complaining but I did find it a lil odd that Cesaro was doing something that was getting him so many cheers during his Real American days when they were supposed to be a heel tag team.

As for the whole "moves that serious champions won't do" thing, 2 words: People's, and Elbow. When Rock first started doing that I thought it was one of the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, especially with King and JR trying to sell it as something actually good. But as we all know Rock went on to become one of the most famous people to ever compete in the company. And of course we have other silly things like Hogan "hulking up" and Cena's 5KS.

Of course Cesaro is no Rock, Cena or Hogan, not even close. It does show however that a move can be made popular, even looked forward to by millions of fans despite it's ridiculousness. (Of course there are limits) In this case I could see the Swing being easily a part of Cesaro's moveset if he ever gets to that top level. It gets entire arenas excited and interacting with something that's going on in the ring(in a good way), it helped get him over as a fan favorite despite being a heel for his entire WWE career and if it keeps getting him huge reactions then by means he should keep doing it. Just not when he's trying to get booed.

 

[Blade]

Well, WWE clearly still has big plans for Cesaro. And a face turn this year is inevitable. If they use the Swing less frequently while he's heel, and then he turns face by swinging Paul Heyman, or better yet, Brock Lesnar, imagine the pop that'll get. That'll be a massive moment for Cesaro, that'll kickstart his face run with some huge momentum.

The swing is a powerful tool. And I think WWE wants to use it properly. As they should.

 

[MrTDG]

I'd say the main reason it isn't used as others have stated is because of the pop that it gets. I'm disappointed but I completely understand the reasoning. I hope for a slow burn where Cesaro has a face turn around WrestleMania 31.

 

[blueskyy]

I hope he continues to use the Swing (as and when it's need).

ps: To get people disinterested in something doesn't mean they'll get interested with it again eventually, neither does it mean that they would find something else to "invest" their interest in. To kill something means killing it for good. Once it's dead, good luck resurrecting it.

 

[Mustang Sally]

I'm guessing they're "saving it" for when Cesaro eventually turns face.

That's a thought. For awhile, I think Creative was going back and forth on whether Cesaro was to break out individually as a heel or face. When he started opposing his Real American counterpart, WWE left no doubt we were to continue booing Swagger......so many of us presumed they wanted us to cheer Cesaro.

Okay, so we rooted for him for a spell, but took notice that the guys he was matched against (other than Swagger) were good guys. After awhile, it became clear they wanted Cesaro to continue as a heel. Fair enough.

Still, the Swing Thing is a good guy's move, right? The opponent who's caught in it is set to be embarrassed (Hey, yo! Lookit the poor schmuck twirlin' around in a circle. Haw! Haw! Haw!) That's not really a scenario that's supposed to happen to faces; when they lose, it's usually because the heel used dirty tactics on them, right? The Swing doesn't look dirty. Actually, it's pretty funny....and bad guys aren't supposed to be funny.

In addition to being essentially a comedy move, the Swing reminds me of Rey Mysterio's 619..... Rey uses it in every single match.....and the fans look for it every time out, making it more of a novelty move than a serious battle tactic. I believe WWE doesn't want Cesaro's move to become a parody of itself, so they instruct him not to trot it out too often.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

I'm hoping they've finally realised their standard MO for new top guys, the one that has gone for more than 20 years isn't gonna work any more.

I'm talking where they are a heel with a midcard title then the moment they actually win the title they are almost obliged to be face immediately... Once Cena worked out as he did they've never tried anything different but most of the time it ruins the pushes... Batista, Orton, Ziggler... the only one they actually seemed to keep heel properly was Miz.

Cesaro isn't a natural face who is gonna lead the company, he may end up a face from time to time but his natural role, like Triple H or Orton is THAT level of heel... if they let him win the title, stay that side of the fence then it lets Brock go face to beat him or Reigns... The reason there are so few truly compelling feuds is cos anyone who "gets over" instantly has to become a face... They're even threatening it for Wyatt... #disaster

 

[Reflection]

Remember the Equalizer is his finishing move

You mean Neutralizer

The Cesaro Swing was one of the two major things that got him over with the crowd- the other being "We The People!"
Now he has neither.
He has a crappy entrance theme, a manager that just doesn't blend with him as well as Zeb Colter and Jack Swagger did.
There was a time (around and after Elimination Chamber this year) where Cesaro was in the WWE WH Championship match and Swagger was in the IC title match, and the two were very over with the crowd, in fact, the best of their respective careers.
Now, neither of them are. Not as much as before by any means.
Cesaro may be a good wrestler, he may have the Equalizer... I mean Neutralizer (lol), the uppercuts, but I have a feeling that he will have to struggle a lot if he has to reach the podium.
Make no mistake, there is only one world championship now and many talented superstars- both young and old. And everyone has something special, something trademark. What does Cesaro have now?
And Jack Swagger- he is a jobber on Superstars now.
Cesaro without the Swing is like a man without a mission, a dog without a bone.
There are tough times ahead.
Stalin once said about USSR that "Lenin left us a State and we turned it to Shit."

 

[kadroan]

Well, WWE clearly still has big plans for Cesaro. And a face turn this year is inevitable. If they use the Swing less frequently while he's heel, and then he turns face by swinging Paul Heyman, or better yet, Brock Lesnar, imagine the pop that'll get. That'll be a massive moment for Cesaro, that'll kickstart his face run with some huge momentum.

The swing is a powerful tool. And I think WWE wants to use it properly. As they should.

I agree. They're doing it the smart way. It's only a matter of time when WWE decides to pull the trigger and turn him. I'm waiting for it.

I think the longer he's heel, the more limited he'll be. Looks like he won't win the US/IC Championships based on how they can keep moving him on so quickly

 

[MartialHorror]

I agree that he will become a face, probably sooner than later, but I don't know if he can recapture the momentum he had acquired during Wrestlemania XXX. I mean, prior to that he was suddenly getting a good singles push (World Champ contender) and began to win over the fans. When he turned on Swagger and won the Andre the Giant memorial BR, he was getting Daniel Bryan-esque pops. Not long ago he was getting squashed by the Big Show, but suddenly he was HUGE.

Then he turned heel and it was confusing (his alignment with Heyman was met with cheers, even though Heyman had previously got epic boos earlier that night) and now he keeps failing to win lesser belts. I don't know, it seemed like WWE was more interested in keeping Heyman as a prevalent force while focusing more on the Shield and Daniel Bryan feuds...So they suddenly decided to make Cesaro heel and push him down a bit. Yes, they have plans for him in the future, but turning him heel after such a pop was a major missed opportunity for Cesaro.