Kevin Nash was (technically) right

[Con T.]

So when Nash gave this promo

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We all mocked him for fucking up the English language. But what if I told you that Nash was more right, than wrong?

Look at the sentence again.

This is where the big boys play.

In this sentence, is acts as the verb. The big boys are doing something.

What are they doing? Well, they're playing. But the thing is, playing actually acts as a modifier for big boys. It tells you that the big boys are playing.

In this instance, play is acting as a participle, telling us what the big boys do. Particles are verb, that act as modifiers to nouns. It's part of a larger branch of grammar, known as verbals, which are verbs that act as other parts of speech.

So, yeah, Nash is technically more right than we are. Here, play acts as the modifier, and thus, an adjective.

So yeah. Sorry to waste your time. It was a thread about Kevin Nash. I'm not sure why you expected something interesting here.

 

[Tastycles]

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Fixed the video for you, you're welcome and so are the mods.

What I can't fix is your logic; "the big boys play" is a different clause in the sentence, and "play" is a verb.

 

[ABMorales787]

"Play". The big boys "playing". The big boys "played".

Its a verb, compadre.

 

[Con T.]

Fixed the video for you, you're welcome and so are the mods.

Gracias.

What I can't fix is your logic; "the big boys play" is a different clause in the sentence, and "play" is a verb.

If we're arguing clauses, isn't it more accurate to say that "where the big boys play" is the full clause, and thus, a prepositional phrase?

If that is so, then wouldn't big boys be the object of the preposition?

If so, we again arrive at play modifying big boys, and casting play as the participle

"Play". The big boys "playing". The big boys "played".

Its a verb, compadre.

Play is a verb, yes. But, not the verb of the sentence; that would be is. Again, you can have a verb act as another part of speech, and ergo becoming a verbal.

-> insert joke regarding and Peruvians being their second language here

 

[Dirk]

I only discovered that he's in the Magic Mike franchise the day before yesterday, so I was expecting jokes about glitter causing quad-injuries.

 

[braveh]

So what he should have said is?????????

 

[Richard Blonoff]

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[Vega]

I know German better than English grammar, but aren't both verbs? "Is" is just the predicate, but nobody said "play" is. So "is" relates to the subject, "play" to the object, but both are verbs and Kevin Nash is wrong.

 

[Con T.]

Ok; let's try this again.

1. Is and play are both verbs.
2. Verbs, though, can act as other parts of speech. These are called "verbals"
3. In this particular case, "is" acts as the verb of this sentence.
4. In this instance, play acts as a modifier to big boys, which is the object of the preposition, "where"

Let's try this all together; I've been doing this all wrong.

Someone, what is the verb of this sentence

Groaning endlessly, KB reviewed another shitty TNA pay per view

 

[Nate DaMac]

Reviewed?

 

[Con T.]

Reviewed?

Yes, but you still have groaning, which is a verb. A verb, acting as an adjective. Or, in this case, a participle.

Just like play would be a participle in Nash's sentence.

We've spent way too long discussing this

 

[George Steele's Barber]

Ok; let's try this again.

1. Is and play are both verbs.
2. Verbs, though, can act as other parts of speech. These are called "verbals"
3. In this particular case, "is" acts as the verb of this sentence.
4. In this instance, play acts as a modifier to big boys, which is the object of the preposition, "where"

Let's try this all together; I've been doing this all wrong.

Someone, what is the verb of this sentence

Isn't TNA slang for fucking up therefore making it a verb?

 

[FlairFan2003]

I hate to burst your bubble but Kevin Nash didn't say this....at least not originally. He was quoting Jim Ross, who said that phrase about every 45 seconds when he worked for WCW after he was let go from the UWF. Watch any old NWA/early WCW match and you'll hear Ross say that phrase so much your ears will hurt, WCW kept the reference (it was often repeated by Bischoff during his days as a Nitro Announcer) even after they let go of Ross.

So if we are really going to parse the correct use of different words and their forms (verb, adverb, noun, etc) then we should be going after Jim Ross, the guy who made the quote and repeated it so much it was as much as part of WCW lexicon of Whoooo and Ohhhh Yeeeaaaaahhhh by the time Nash even appeared.

 

[Vega]

- A participle is not an adjective, it just has a similar function. It's a verb.
- There's not the verb of a sentence, there's the predicate.
- Verbs can be used in different manners, finite - like predicates - and infinite - like participles or gerunds.

In Nash's sentence, there are two verbs: "is" is the predicate and "play" is a participle.
I the second sentence, "groaning" is a gerund and "reviewed" is the predicate.

At least that's what I make of it.

There's a nice overview:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finite_verb

 

[Spidey Revivey]

Edit: Vega beat me to it

 

[BestSportsEntertainer]

It was clearly a verb. I bet you also think 2+2=5.

 

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[George Steele's Barber]

Is this being discussed elsewhere on the interwebz? Coincidentally Peter Rosenberg used and mocked the clip on Grantland's Cheap Heat Podcast yesterday?

Is this a coincidence? Is he a member (lurker) here? Or is this a popular topic of conversation right now?

One of you guys who has more time and ability to internet stalk people should find out.