Of course Justin Gabriel has potential.
Very little in the ring.
He's roughly the same size as Miz, Morrison and Christian. Want to ammend that statement?
Thank you for proving my point Habs. Justin Gabriel is FAR from just a flippy guy. Go watch his match against Kaval for the FCW title, or against Micky Whiplash in WWP, Or if you're in the mood for a squash against Kerwats. The only flips Gabriel does on a regular basis are his moonsault and his finisher, and in most of his matches he performs the same number of flips as Daniel Bryan does. i.e. 1. Want to ammend that statement to one that doesn't make you look like a dumbass?
with zero charisma, and we all know that guys of this mold tend to take the WWE by storm.
Well John Morrison's in the main event, and Sin Cara's getting a big push so yes they can.
And for the record, Gabriel does have charisma. He can't cut a promo for shit but English isn't his first language. How well can you cut a promo in your second language? That doesn't stop him having charisma. There's a reason he's gotten over in every company that he's spent time in and it's not just because of his ability to pull of a 450 splash.
Take this match you've never bothered to look up featuring a promo that gets the crowd to do what he wants (finish his name) and the crowd chanting for him during the match before he does anything you couldn't see anybody do. Clearly this man has no charisma.
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Simple fact of the matter is this. He's been around the business long enough that he probably is not going to escalate from where he currently sits.
A guy in a stable? Pretty sure he can make it as a successful singles competitor like ha has been everywhere else he's chosen to ply his trade.
He can be a quality mid carder, or a successful tag team wrestler, but if you think he is going to progress into the main event as a singles competitor, I think you are mistaken.
I don't think he's going to be a main eventer. He doesn't have the mic skills to carry a main event story in the way that you need to be able to in WWE. However, that's irrelevent to this thread. Because it's not about whether or not Gabriel can main event. It's about how absolutely nobody has bothered to look up Justin's old stuff on youtube before commenting on how good he is. And you just proved my point. You passed him off as a one trick pony when he has the same number of takedown => submission combos as he does high flying moves.
So please Habs and anyone else who wants to respond, go and watch some of his old stuff before you do. Don't argue what you clearly have no knowledge of. You'll only look stupid.
gabriel with slater have potencial together alone gabriel would drown, they are good tag teams and good mid carders.
Yes. Because Justin Gabriel has never been a successful wrestler on his own...
Oh.
Given the right push, the right feuds, and the right booking I could say Justin Gabriel being a big name one day. Although you could say that about anyone, Justin Gabriel brings a ton of talent and a unique look to the table, not to mention a finisher that makes the crowd pop every time. I can count on one hand how many times I've heard him on a mic in front of the crowd, but from what I've seen he's not that bad. His accent is a little heavy and difficult to understand but he hasn't been put into feuds or situations where he has to be charismatic or show tons of emotion. His role since NXT was back up fodder for Barrett.
Very true, which has caused him to be incredably underrated simply because he hasn't had the chance to show what he's really capable of.
I'll admit the only stuff of his before WWE I've seen was one or two of the videos you have posted around here Remixie. But based on his WWE in-ring work alone, I can't remember him having a bad match. He hasn't had any spectacular, blow our minds matches but he always gives a solid performance.
His match against Kaval is in my opinion better than Danielson vs Kaval in FCW so that's worth a watch, and his two against Leo Kruger were also very very good.
And like I said the only role he's been given is backup for Barrett, so he hasn't shown much emotion. We all know you can have the best match in the world but without a decent story and emotion it's meaningless.
Best shown in his match against Barrett who screwed him out of the Florida Heavyweight Championship.
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I see potential in him but he hasn't been put in a position to show what he's fully capable of and has only shown how he can play one role.
No, you've only seen him play one role. There's a difference. One implies that he's limited, one implies that you haven't seen much of him
With WWE's track record with guys with similar styles, I'm not sure how likely that is but I'd like to see them at least try to see what he can do on his own, not playing the role of back up.
It's not like there's a shortage of material on youtube.
I thought that this was a Justin bashing thread but after reading the OP(which apparently a few didn't) and I fully understand what you're getting at. But while you're right that his ring work won't likely improve, his potential lies in his character and booking.
Glad that you get the point.
He has the potential to be a big star in the company based on his stellar ring work, but that all hinges on whether or not he is capable of developing a character that the fans connect with and being booked to be a big deal.
The booking he can't control, but he can play a character. That's something he did in South Africa especially where he played the standard "pretty boy" babyface. There aren't many promos for him that I can find, but the commentary's pretty good for talking around the match. Though the female who bursts into Afrikaans randomly can be a bit irritating, but she's no worse than the tool who seems to commentate every ROH match on youtube.
