John Lauranitis - NEW Interim GM of Raw

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What are they thinking? Just a few minutes after seeing that live on RAW, they put Laurinaitis as GM?!?!? At first I thought that McMahon was going to call out Mick Foley to be GM.. Bad move.
 
For a brief second, I was hoping Mick Foley but that would be out of the ordinary. WWE isn't that creative. Laurinaitis was the obvious choice and that's why he was picked. Another obvious choice we all saw coming that NO ONE wanted.
They aren't booing him because he's a heel, they're booing him because he terrible. Can't act, can't talk. Only thing he can do is kiss Vince's ass.
 
Warriorforever83 I couldn't agree more! I live about 150 miles from Oklahoma City and had tickets to this show but decided to sell them after last weeks show. I knew they would totally mess up this angle and in my opinion they have. This is one of the worst shows I can ever remember WWE doing. The first 30 minutes were all for not after Vince came out and did what he did. I don't think it made sense for Vince to give HHH the news as he is just majority owner and nothing more. I think the last couple of weeks the WWE are letting us all know just how stupid they think we all are. Well, I for one will be watching football then catch the results on the results page until it looks like maybe they are going into a good direction but hell that might never happen again.
 
Yeah, I turned it off a little over midway through. The beginning had promise -- it was unlike anything they've done -- and within a few minutes it was back to normal. Obviously the whole thing is just to set up Survivor Series, but again, why did everything have to be so rushed?

I don't really care who the RAW GM is. Frankly, I wish they'd just make it some generic guy a la Teddy Long and focus on actual angles and feuds for titles. You know, real competition (as real as fake competition can be, anyway). RAW has spent way too long now with guest celebrities and now this revolving door of supposed controversy at the center of the program. The GM is made to be more important than the champion.

The worst part, logically speaking, is HHH is still the COO but not the GM of RAW. What exactly is the managerial hierarchy in WWE? The title of "chief operating officer" would seem to trump general manager of one show to me.
 
Ok, I haven't been totally against Laurinitis' recent involvement until tonight. Even when Vince announced that Johnny Ace was taking over as GM I wasn't all that skeptical. I was thinking that he could at least be an extremely hated GM because of the crowd reaction he gets. It should be easy.. Even when he fired JR in Oklahoma City, that was easy heat that's a no brainer. When he just interrupted C.M. Punk and del Rio, that's when I changed my mind. This guy has absolutely zero charisma. There is nothing about him that is authoritative or interesting. I half expected C.M. Punk and del Rio to ignore him and keep wrestling. Add to that they just brought back The Miz and R-Truth way too prematurely.. Although Triple H running in to save C.M. Punk was kind of cool. this weeks RAW was such a disappointment following last weeks.
 
Ok, I haven't been totally against Laurinitis' recent involvement until tonight. Even when Vince announced that Johnny Ace was taking over as GM I wasn't all that skeptical. I was thinking that he could at least be an extremely hated GM because of the crowd reaction he gets. It should be easy.. Even when he fired JR in Oklahoma City, that was easy heat that's a no brainer. When he just interrupted C.M. Punk and del Rio, that's when I changed my mind. This guy has absolutely zero charisma. There is nothing about him that is authoritative or interesting. I half expected C.M. Punk and del Rio to ignore him and keep wrestling. Add to that they just brought back The Miz and R-Truth way too prematurely.. Although Triple H running in to save C.M. Punk was kind of cool. this weeks RAW was such a disappointment following last weeks.

Agreed! Miz and R-Truth should have been kept off for a bit longer. They 'break the law' and are suddenly awarded a contract immediately when the new GM returns. Also, why would they have their wrestling gear? Once again, It's just wrestling. I need to pull a Russo and remind myself. It's just wrestling, it doesn't have to make sense.

Also I laughed at the interruption during the match. The crowd has 0 reaction. When he paused before announcing who he reinstated, I thought he was waiting for the music to hit. Instead it was a pause to cause drama. Just terrible. At least Adamle had some depth.
 
BAD BAD move here. First off, they didnt even say anything about the Computer GM (i now guess he's fired). Second, Johnny Ace as the Interm GM is just so boring that it's not even funny. Firing JR was just a bad move because he actually made the announcing worth listening to, now for the next whatever weeks we will hear Cole gloat about a man being fired which is just dull. Third, i do NOT like how they brought Miz and Truth back. i was hoping for them to cause havoc at Vengence in another triple threat match where they would then be helped by Nash, then signed by Laurnitius, but it's now looking like Nash will just be re-hired by Ace. i really hope they end Johnny Ace's tenure as GM by November because he's just going to bore the audience to death. At least with Vickie Guerrero people get annoyed by her and react, for Ace, they just get ready to fall asleep it seems and he did that to me to the point i changed the channel. i like the end with Triple H and Punk and i like them teaming up, but it just seems too rushed. i was hoping for a Nexus like return from Miz and Truth, but oh well. hopefully though they either hire Ross as the GM later (got to have Ross on the show in my book) or have the new GM hire him back and hopefully the johnny Ace as GM thing ends soon and i agree, rather have Adamle or the computer than Ace.
 
I hate to defend the WWE, but Laurinitis was obvious because he was always supposed to be in this role. What do you think he's on TV for? That's like watching 24 and a new character comes on. Then when the character does something, you ask why. People complain about short-term planning, but when they actually do something long-term, you complain about that too.
 
Hate to whine and moan because it seems to be the thing nowdays but I have to agree with everybody on this one...really awful and such promise to begin with. It was so obvious that I never expected them to do it...I still stupidly remain optimistic that the WWE wont keep going to the next obvious step on the ladder but they do so many times although not so much as of late which gave me false hope. Hopfully it wont be for too long and the real GM will be bought in...I also thought it was going to be Foley.

Laurinitis is terrible to the point of frustration at his lack of emotion or charisma. I think once again the WWE rushed things by bringing people back too soon including Vince. I hope things pick up again...I wont give up on the storyline just yet.
 
Warriorforever83 I couldn't agree more! I live about 150 miles from Oklahoma City and had tickets to this show but decided to sell them after last weeks show. I knew they would totally mess up this angle and in my opinion they have. This is one of the worst shows I can ever remember WWE doing. The first 30 minutes were all for not after Vince came out and did what he did. I don't think it made sense for Vince to give HHH the news as he is just majority owner and nothing more. I think the last couple of weeks the WWE are letting us all know just how stupid they think we all are. Well, I for one will be watching football then catch the results on the results page until it looks like maybe they are going into a good direction but hell that might never happen again.


Actually he is still the Chairman in the storyline and that has already been explained in the storyline. He just lost his day to day runnings of the company as Chief Operating Officer. That is what job HHH had.

It also makes perfect sense for it to be John L. Its been building to him making a move all along. He is part of the conspiricy and he has already got rid of Ross and brought back the 'Rebels. The crowd does hate him, that is kind of the point. Its its character to be a kiss asa boring tool.

This storyline is far from over. I think things will be much clearer come SSeries.
 
I am not really impressed with tonight's episode of Raw, this is probably one of the worst episodes I have ever watched!

I think you're completely stupid along with all the other smarks that said this show was horrible.

Do you guys not see the brilliance of what happened here? Yeah they gave John L the interim position but we need to look at the bigger picture...

They got Triple H back in the ring and Vince McMahon back on TV.......Now look I have no idea where this storyline is gonna go but people patience is a virtue.....Give it time to work....Like it or not we have not had this much excitement in the company in a long time.

For the last several years we have had stale products......Now whether you think this show was horrible or not the fact is at least they are trying to make it interesting which is more than could be said for the last 4 years.

So quit bitching and sit back and enjoy what's happening because I guarantee you something earth shattering is coming out of this...I promise ;)
 
I don't think it's as bad as you all think. It's pretty obvious that we are gonna find out that Johnny Ace was behind all the chaos that happened during HHH's time in charge. It'll probably explain all the texting he did in all of his scenes. It's just a matter of when we find out and how the story plays out. That is the point of a television program, to tell a story. Not all stories are "happy" all the time, if it was like that you people would be bitching about how John Cena is always on the screen making all the little Jimmy's happy.
 
I think you're completely stupid along with all the other smarks that said this show was horrible.

Do you guys not see the brilliance of what happened here? Yeah they gave John L the interim position but we need to look at the bigger picture...

They got Triple H back in the ring and Vince McMahon back on TV.......Now look I have no idea where this storyline is gonna go but people patience is a virtue.....Give it time to work....Like it or not we have not had this much excitement in the company in a long time.

For the last several years we have had stale products......Now whether you think this show was horrible or not the fact is at least they are trying to make it interesting which is more than could be said for the last 4 years.

So quit bitching and sit back and enjoy what's happening because I guarantee you something earth shattering is coming out of this...I promise ;)

I don't think that anybody is bitching. They're just worried that they'll be bored to death by JL before this story peaks. I just hope that this story ends at Survivor Series with Triple H regaining full control and hiring JR as the GM. They should have done that a long time ago. This shouldn't go beyond SS because by then it would get boring.
 
I think you're completely stupid along with all the other smarks that said this show was horrible.

Do you guys not see the brilliance of what happened here? Yeah they gave John L the interim position but we need to look at the bigger picture...

They got Triple H back in the ring and Vince McMahon back on TV.......Now look I have no idea where this storyline is gonna go but people patience is a virtue.....Give it time to work....Like it or not we have not had this much excitement in the company in a long time.

For the last several years we have had stale products......Now whether you think this show was horrible or not the fact is at least they are trying to make it interesting which is more than could be said for the last 4 years.

So quit bitching and sit back and enjoy what's happening because I guarantee you something earth shattering is coming out of this...I promise ;)

You think ANOTHER run with The Family (McMahons) as the center of attention is what the WWE needs right now? If you call this exciting, you've missed a lot of great moments in wrestling history my friend. This is pretty low on the poll of great moments. This will be looked over like so many other RAW's.

I really hope you're trolling sir. Another storyline with McMahons at the centre of the WWE universe won't lead to anything earth shattering. Just the same crap recycled.
 
You think ANOTHER run with The Family (McMahons) as the center of attention is what the WWE needs right now? If you call this exciting, you've missed a lot of great moments in wrestling history my friend. This is pretty low on the poll of great moments. This will be looked over like so many other RAW's.

I really hope you're trolling sir. Another storyline with McMahons at the centre of the WWE universe won't lead to anything earth shattering. Just the same crap recycled.

I agree. This isn't even the best McMahon Family centered storyline. The problem now is that Vince was told that he couldn't take any bumps so he can't get his ass kicked which means no payoff. The fans don't want to see Johnny Ace get his ass kicked. They don't want to see him at all. (What happened to Vince not wanting him to have that big of a TV role?)
 
Do you guys really expect that every show they put on will be according to your predictions? When Johnny Ace assigned as the GM then you got pissed off? Seriously? Then don't watch WWE anymore. Go watch Teletubbies, Spongebob Square Pants or any other kiddie show where every single episode is a win.
 
I hate to burst bubbles... okay, no I don't it's kind of fun... but anyway why are people so quick to say "this storyline sucks" or "worst raw ever"? Have they not learned that taking a time and actually analyzing things before commenting on them makes them look so much better? No seriously, can anyone here that's complaining tell me just what exactly Johnny-Boy does that's "real heat" and not Kayfabe heat?

What's that? He can't act? Well call me a skeptic but aren't you all the ones claiming Christian and Morrison should both be world champions? Yeah, I'd take Johnny-Boy as GM any day. Not to mention, Johnny-Boy being announced as interim GM clears up the anonymous GM crap while also allowing for some more room to breathe to be had.

Another thing, just because it has to do with Johnny-Boy (sort of), who's to say that this storyline won't see him get fired sooner or later? Who's to say that Johnny-Boy will even be around for much longer? How do you not know that he too will end up with problems?

Oh I know that answer... you don't. So sit back, watch the show, take a few hours and maybe the next day to think it over and THEN give your opinions. Until then, just shut up and watch the product.
 
I hate to burst bubbles... okay, no I don't it's kind of fun... but anyway why are people so quick to say "this storyline sucks" or "worst raw ever"? Have they not learned that taking a time and actually analyzing things before commenting on them makes them look so much better? No seriously, can anyone here that's complaining tell me just what exactly Johnny-Boy does that's "real heat" and not Kayfabe heat?

What's that? He can't act? Well call me a skeptic but aren't you all the ones claiming Christian and Morrison should both be world champions? Yeah, I'd take Johnny-Boy as GM any day. Not to mention, Johnny-Boy being announced as interim GM clears up the anonymous GM crap while also allowing for some more room to breathe to be had.

Another thing, just because it has to do with Johnny-Boy (sort of), who's to say that this storyline won't see him get fired sooner or later? Who's to say that Johnny-Boy will even be around for much longer? How do you not know that he too will end up with problems?

Oh I know that answer... you don't. So sit back, watch the show, take a few hours and maybe the next day to think it over and THEN give your opinions. Until then, just shut up and watch the product.

Where is it people said that Christian and Morrison should be Champions? If you're trying to prove a point, you shouldn't pull random points out of the air. Your point just looks weak. It's not facts or anything, just an opinion on the current situation. Thanks, we've gotten a lot of that in this thread.

Most people aren't talking about the long term anyways. They're talking about TONIGHT's RAW; not what's happening next week. Fact is, tonight's RAW was weak in many peoples eyes. Bad matches and bad segments.
 
I'm not saying that Laurinitis shouldn't be the interim GM. I understand perfectly well that that is what they've been building up to. Just because I said I think he's boring doesn't mean I don't understand why they did it.. I just think they went about revealing him as the new GM in the most lackluster way possible. I don't think many of you are as big of fans of Triple H as I am, but I'm ready for him to step to the side as far as an in ring capacity is concerned. I think at this point he needs to just be in there to give a lot of these younger guys he hasn't faced the rub on a more infrequent basis and I thought that the COO angle was a way to do that.
 
What's with all the Laurinatis hate? Give the man a fucking chance.

I'm actually looking forward to what he's gonna do as the GM. We haven't had a heel GM since when? Eric Bischoff in 2003 - 2005?

I'm gonna give Johnny Ace a chance here although I'm not expecting anything that good from him at least I'm not counting him out yet like most are.
 
I think after time he may get more comfortable with the role and being on TV each week. Right now I think he sucks and not in a Kayfabe sense but in a terrible lack of...well anything. As I said before I am definitely not going to write the story off and a huge part of the problem today is that people are too quick to judge or have no patience. The WWE is like a microwave to them and want things instantly. I think this story will remain to be interesting and develop into something great and worth watching. I did not enjoy a lot of last nights Raw but I understand why and why it happend how it did so no complaints about that.
 
How many times have those of us who are frustrated by the product been told we are jumping the gun, wait and let them build up the angle only to have the angle end up as crappy as we thought? I don't think any of us should give them the benefit of the doubt anymore because they've repeatedly shown that they do screw up storylines. Everything about this since Punk initially left has felt so incredibly rushed and desperate.
 
Yeah, I'm just not buying into the arguments against him. There generally aren't any from what I can see now that I think about it.

I remember a few years back people were saying the exact same thing about Vickie Guerrero being the GM of SmackDown!. When it comes to sheer ability to draw heat, Vickie Guerrero is the top personality in wrestling. Lauranitis is in that same league. I know some might hate the idea of that being so, but it's true. The man's a walking furnace and gets intense heat from live crowds whenever he's out in the ring. Last night's response in Oklahoma City wasn't a one time thing by any stretch. The formula for the GM has been having one be a face and the other be a heel. Lauranitis is a natural heel. The man practically oozes the fact that he's a soulless, corporate executive that covets the power that he has. It's not as if he has to act very hard and it's a natural fit for the guy.

I wasn't that crazy about Raw last night myself, but making Lauranitis the Raw GM is not a bad move. Wrestling fans love heels they can hate and Lauranitis fits that bill on a level like Vickie Guerrero & Michael Cole. And besides, Christ, he's just the Raw GM. He'll probably be on television a grand total of 5 minutes or so each Raw and you people are acting like they just made him WWE Champion.
 
Honestly I thought way too many people jumped the gun on the whole idea of Johnny Ace becoming GM. It was honestly the most logical choice and I feel like lots of people saw this coming a mile away. Triple H was clearly being undermined in the storyline, and the simplest way for creative to pull that off without getting too complicated was have it be Johnny Ace. People who thought Foley was going to come back as GM, lets be honest here, why would that make any sense?

As for the GM himself, sure his acting is a bit 'raw' (no pun intended), but without seeming smooth on the camera he still draws awesome heat, and I love his character I think he fits that corporate sleezeball perfectly and he was the right choice for GM. Originally when the whole storyline began and Triple H was COO I was hoping for him to turn heel and side with Lauranitis and battle CM Punk, but considering they have no plans to turn Triple H heel, having Lauranitis take over as the heel GM is the next best thing. I can't wait to see how things go under his watch. I wish they would have had a more clever return for R-Truth and Miz though, but having Lauranitis bring them back was actually a good way to ensure they were booed and people didn't cheer their return.
 
Personally, I'm not unhappy with this development. And to be honest, I actually like Johnny Ace in this role - exactly because he is just not really good at talking or acting. He gives off the impression of some lower-tier company guy who desperately, desperately wants to be in a position he's not capable to handle; somehow a wannabe, who wants to a "somebody" but can't fill the shoes he's trying to fill. And that is exactly what he is: Triple H is a legend in the biz (even though I am not a huge fan of his, you have to give him that), he can hold his own in the ring and on the mic, and the fans love him. Johnny Ace never managed to achieve that, and it shows why every time he is out on that stage. He comes across as inferior to HHH in this role in every way possible - which is exactly what he is, and which is also exactly what WWE needs him to be looked at.

That's why they made HHH the COO in the first place, and didn't go straight to Johnny Ace. They needed to establish Ace first as this just-not-good-enough-for-the-brass type of guy, who has to take a backseat to guys who are just better at these things (HHH), but who can't take it anymore. So to establish him as a real heel character, they first needed to give the COO/GM-position to HHH, who is hugely over and who was handling this position as a face... only to take it away from him in the process, and give it to the "bad guy" - that's classic Hollywood writing 101, I suppose we've all seen TONS of movies where this happens, where some slick bastard who cheats and backstabs people gets picked for a promotion in a company over the hero/good guy, until in the end "justice is served" and the bad guy gets fired/his ass kicked? Elementary aristotelic katharsis principle fulfilled, ladies and gentlemen. ;)

So that being said, maybe they were rushing it a bit with the quick reinstatement of Truth and Miz, but Johnny Ace firing JR in front of his hometown crowd was of course another classic heel move, and falls into the same category as the basic story outline with the slick-bastard-gets-promoted as described above. That generates massive heat for Ace. So does him talking to his wife on the phone about whether he looked good on TV - gives off an impression of him being a self-centered jerk who just cares for himself - which again is exactly the type of character he is supposed to portray. So for me personally, it's working. And the fact that Johnny Ace is just not very good as an actor or a talker to me just adds to the authenticity of it - as everyone can clearly see he is not fit for the role, not only through the decisions he makes (such as firing JR, reinstating heels Miz and Truth), but simply by his everyday demeanor, which just SCREAMS that he is not good enough to do the job that was "originally" given to Triple H.

So yeah, I'm willing to give Johnny Ace a chance... he's a fresh face to the scenery, at least it's not (yet) VKM AGAIN or Vickie Guerrero AGAIN or someone who we've seen play that role before. And with his real-life role in the company, it makes the whole situation much more believeable than just bringing in some "random outside guy" like Mick Foley, who hasn't been around for ages. Personally, bringing in Foley in the long run would be awesome of course, but there needs to be a reason for him to suddenly show up as GM; as of now, there is none. For Johnny Ace, there is a big reason to be there - he already IS there.

I just wonder how long WWE's breath will be with this, and if they will allow Johnny Ace to play the heel GM for a bit, or if they'll rush it all AGAIN and have someone else as a GM AGAIN by the time Survivor Series rolls around... That's my main problem with this storyline, and I think a lot of people have that same problem: They are just rushing things. You'd need people to REALLY start hating Ace before you replace him, you'd need people to REALLY start hating heel champions before the face FINALLY wins the belt off them to make people care - it just isn't much use tossing the GM position around on a weekly basis like they are doing with the championships already anyway. That's what WWE has lost focus of recently, in my opinion... they are just not willing to wait with the big payoff, they are not willing to strain their audience's attention span.

Remember when nWo-Hollywood Hogan was WCW champ for AGES? Personally, looking back at that time, I freaking loved it - I would GLADLY tune in every week to see if Hogan would FINALLY get what was coming to him... and then he'd AGAIN escape unscathed at the last minute - Shredder principle. ;)
These days, however, they may have a heel get the best of a face two weeks in a row, but then the PPV rolls around, and BAM! there you have your face winning and everything is back to square one. The only time they've been doing it differently recently seems to be Mark Henry's push, who was allowed to really dominate Randy Orton so far, which I guess came as a surprise.

So yeah, I hope they give Johnny Ace the chance to really be an annoyance for quite a while, as he simply IS one of the focal characters of their main storyline right now... and in order to get people invested, they'll need to give the heel GM character time to develop, imho.
 

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