John Bradshaw Layfield (JBL) turned down TNA

[Smackdown!]

JBL I'm so happy he turned down the TnA offer he's to good for them anyways. I've always loved his character along with the limo and the whole wrestling god slogan. o yeah by the way jbl is not an ass that's just my opinion.

 

[Smooth Sexual Chocolate]

Really? Blind love would mean he doesn't critique TNA at all, and only critiqued WWE. But right there he just said that there's plenty wrong with TNA and WWE, which is exactly equal opportunity. It's just in his opinion TNA has less problems.

I guess less problems equals less success and less money, opinion or not each have their problems, TNA has more.

I enjoy TNA by the way.

 

[MVs Prodigy]

According to the Wrestling Observer, TNA pitched an offer for him to come in and work for the company, and he turned it down citing no desire to be there.

I for one couldn't be happier. I've always hated JBL. I have no idea what people see in him. He's pompous and an ass in the locker room from numerous reports throughout his career. He's also fat and jiggly, and a total bore in the ring.

If you ask me, JBL just saved TNA some serious egg on their face by telling them no.

What, we didn't learn our lesson with Booker T?

So ur not taking "stabs" by calling him pompus, really, I understand ur reasons for hornswaggle and henry, thats why i prefer SD! but HHH and Show, idk how you couldnt like them as a wrestler, and for watching tna over the WWE, u are basically watching a rundown show full of former WWE talent and WWE's neverbeens. They keep going after former WWE talent trying to be them. Nash, Book, Foley, Hogan, Angle, 3D, Lashley, shall I go on. And w/ there pathetic talent that were nevermore than jobbers w/ the WWE like Morgan, Sylvan, Tomko and more. So we may have different opinions on JBL but I am happy he didnt turn his back on WWE and sign w/ the second rate company TNA.

 

[BOSS Productions]

I have been a TNA fan from 2002-2005 and well I have to say TNA makes its own mistakes and you cannot really say they dodged a bullet because a superstar refused to sign with them.Meanwhile what is all the hate on JBL about, ya he was a bit boring but I enjoyed his run on Smackdown. Personally I loved all his feuds up until his move to RAW and then he got boring but he still is a former World Champion and TNA would defiantly use that to their advantage they would take all his title accomplishments and consider them a World Title accomplishment and name him a 1000 time WORLD CHAMPION.Seriously all these WWE guys coming into WWE just give TNA attention and make it worth watching because most of the guys are not ready to main event and by bringing these WWE guys they can push the younger talent higher and make them seem stronger.

 

[Remy LaCroix]

I'm an equal wrestling supporter, but lets be real, that's some blind TNA love right there.

Most definitely. The OP is regurgitating it with every post they make.

I've been watching TNA for a few months already (frankly, the only draw for me are the Knockouts) and I don't like it as much as the fanboys in this thread do. To each their own, but the fanboys here are just plain blind.

 

[Freddy4190]

JBL moves better in the ring then Flair or Hogan, so whatever. Obviously Hogan didn't draw too well, his announcement or whatever.. his "debut" in TNA didn't do shit ratings wise. JBL is good to turn down TNA, he'd just be another dumbass jumping on board the TNA bandwagon. It's getting annoying to be honest. JBL may have been sloppy in the ring the past few years he was in WWE, but when he was WWE Champion he owned Smackdown, he still is one of the greatest heels, if not the greatest heel in the WWE in a long time.

 

[Mavericks fan]

I do not know hot to feel about this.It is cool when new superstars arrive from wwe to tna and contrutary(sorry,do not know how to spell it)On the other hand,if JBL arrived he would probably take the main event spot and bore us to death.I would like to see his old Bradshaw persona for a change

 

[It's Damn Real!]

So ur not taking "stabs" by calling him pompus, really, I understand ur reasons for hornswaggle and henry, thats why i prefer SD! but HHH and Show, idk how you couldnt like them as a wrestler, and for watching tna over the WWE, u are basically watching a rundown show full of former WWE talent and WWE's neverbeens. They keep going after former WWE talent trying to be them. Nash, Book, Foley, Hogan, Angle, 3D, Lashley, shall I go on. And w/ there pathetic talent that were nevermore than jobbers w/ the WWE like Morgan, Sylvan, Tomko and more. So we may have different opinions on JBL but I am happy he didnt turn his back on WWE and sign w/ the second rate company TNA.

Nash is ex-WCW. Booker is ex-WCW. Foley is ex-ECW. 3D is ex-ECW.

The only real "WWE" guys out of that list you posted are Angle and Hogan.

I never gave a shit about the Giant, even in WCW, and HHH has also always been shit to me. I still remember him losing that Pig Slop match to Godwin.

Taking a stab would be saying "He sucks!" and running away. I've done no such thing. I said I thought he was pompous and an ass in the locker room from as various reports have also stated. There's reasoning behind my dislike. I also went as far as to say that I thought he was fat, jiggly and a bore in the ring. You should understand the meaning of your analogies before you use them.

 

[benm1989]

JBL was always a sloppy wrstler his matches in singles as jbl was always a sloppy 3-4 minute match until he hit the clothesline from hell his mic skills re great heel promos great alot of the time he needed help though like for example the cabinet interfereing in nearly all his matches on smackdown but what I loved about his wewrestling he always used his intelligence remember the barbed wire steel cage match against show chokeslammed through the ring but was smart enough to crawl under the ring to the outside for the win absolute class TNA dodged their own bullet on this won and as for matt morgan when he was at wwe they wasted his talent along with nathan jones then brought him back for about 2 months and gave him a stutter wtf!!!!!!!!!
TNA have used him exceptionally look at him now the blueprint character brilliant carbon footprint great finisher and in my opinion if wwe got aj or joe or daniels they would send him 2 ecw or developement look at christian
at the top of his game in TNA and stuck on the 3rd rate wwe show
low ki development
colt cabana 2 used rarely
chris harris waste of talent
i could go on and on
TNA has a creative genious in russo in my opinion
and with bischoff coming in expect controversy
and the most creative man in wrestling in my opinion PAUL HEYMAN needs to go to TNA 1 more fact HHH brought in from wcw the radicals from wcw
raven from wcw finlay from wcw since when did wwe actually get their own stars come on
Paul Heyman is the reason for stone cold when he was brought in to ecw he was given creative control for his character and told to say what was on his mind and i think this was the start of stone cold

 

[Smooth Sexual Chocolate]

Nash is ex-WCW. Booker is ex-WCW. Foley is ex-ECW. 3D is ex-ECW.

The only real "WWE" guys out of that list you posted are Angle and Hogan.

They all went from the WWE to TNA.

Nash has just as much time in WWE as WCW.

According to your logic Foley would be WCW, no?

What are you trying to prove here? I enjoy TNA more than anything Vince is putting out right now(except maybe ECW), but again, enough with the blind love, and now twisted stats.

We get it, you think JBL is a fat slob, TNA didn't dodge a bullet either, they offered him a contract, and if he would have accepted it would have added to TNA, for the better.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

They all went from the WWE to TNA.

Nash has just as much time in WWE as WCW.

According to your logic Foley would be WCW, no?

What are you trying to prove here? I enjoy TNA more than anything Vince is putting out right now(except maybe ECW), but again, enough with the blind love, and now twisted stats.

We get it, you think JBL is a fat slob, TNA didn't dodge a bullet either, they offered him a contract, and if he would have accepted it would have added to TNA, for the better.

I'm not referring to "time spent" as much as I am what established said wrestlers.

Nash was over in WWE as Diesel, but he was far superior in WCW with the nWo and the Wolfpac.

Foley was over in WWE as Mankind and Mick Foley, but what really established "The Hardcore Legend" was his work with ECW.

Booker T was over in WWE as King Booker, but Harlem Heat absolutely legitimized him as a performer, as well as the remainder of his work in WCW.

3-D made themselves famous with their table matches in ECW far before the "Dudley Boyz" were put over in WWE.

 

[StopFantasyBooking]

Foley was over in WWE as Mankind and Mick Foley, but what really established "The Hardcore Legend" was his work with ECW.

3-D made themselves famous with their table matches in ECW far before the "Dudley Boyz" were put over in WWE.

Flat out wrong. WWE took these popular-within-a-nothing-promotion wrestlers and turned them into stars. By this logic, who has TNA built within their own ranks that wasn't already established in ROH or Mexico or Japan or anywhere else?

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Flat out wrong. WWE took these popular-within-a-nothing-promotion wrestlers and turned them into stars. By this logic, who has TNA built within their own ranks that wasn't already established in ROH or Mexico or Japan or anywhere else?

AJ Styles and Matt Morgan. Neither of them established themselves anywhere except in TNA.

 

[Smooth Sexual Chocolate]

AJ Styles and Matt Morgan. Neither of them established themselves anywhere except in TNA.

Matt Morgan was on WWE's Tough Enough, I wouldn't consider him a star in any sense of the word. Just look at the reaction he got when they traveled out to California for BFG.

I'll give you A.J though.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Matt Morgan was on WWE's Tough Enough, I wouldn't consider him a star in any sense of the word. Just look at the reaction he got when they traveled out to California for BFG.

I'll give you A.J though.

Yeah, but Morgan didn't actually get over in WWE. They tried giving him that stuttering gimmick, and he simply didn't do anything with it. It took him nowhere. It's why he left. TNA built him into the "DNA of TNA".

I'd also add to that list a guy like Amazing Red, Eric Young, Concequences Creed (though he isn't really over well), Hernandez, Franky Kazarian (to an extent).

 

[benm1989]

aj styles is the future of professional wrestling and matt morgan is going places aswell
samoa joe is overrated and nigel mcguinness has a great future

 

[StopFantasyBooking]

AJ Styles and Matt Morgan. Neither of them established themselves anywhere except in TNA.

I guess AJ Styles holding ROH championships meant nothing.

aj styles is the future of professional wrestling and matt morgan is going places aswell
samoa joe is overrated and nigel mcguinness has a great future

Hate to break it to you, but Cena (who I personally don't care for) draws more than all of them combined. Undertaker, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Batista, Mysterio...they each draw more than all of them combined.

To say that the future of pro-wrestling is resting in the crap-hole of TNA is pretty naive. You know that when people see Kurt Angle, the vast majority ask him why he quit wrestling, right?

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I guess AJ Styles holding ROH championships meant nothing.

And Matt Morgan? Amazing Red? Eric Young? Concequences Creed? Hernandez? Franky Kazarian? All them, too?

I forgot, WWE only ever builds all it's stars. They certainly never came from other promotions or were ever over in another organization... guys like Austin, Hogan, Hart, DiBiase, Flair, etc. certainly only ever shook ground under the flag of McMahon, eh?

 

[StopFantasyBooking]

Haha you don't think WWE built Hogan? Really?

I like how you left out guys like Orton, Shawn Michaels, Edge, Cena, Undertaker, The Rock, Jeff Hardy, Lesnar, and even some of your own guys like Lashley and Kurt Angle.

FYI, Amazing Red held the ROH tag titles with AJ at one point. I never said TNA had no stars they built from the ground, but look at the ratio between has-beens and guys they've created.

Eric Young is awful, by the way. Especially on the mic.

Edit: I like how you referenced Kazarian and Creed like they've accomplished anything at all. I'm curious why you didn't mention Beer Money (who is over as hell) and MCMG, thought I'm not quite sure on their history. TNA has some talent, but they have no idea how to use it.

 

[Henry Hill]

Yeah, maybe, but that's just one perspective. The other is that TNA did in fact dodge a bullet (if you ask me) by simply not perpetuating the cycle of bringing in has-beens, or in JBL's case and IMO, a never-was.

Longest reigning WWE champion in 10 years is hardly a never was, but thats purely opinion, and you are entitled to yours.

I also don't think it's necessarily that JBL considers TNA a joke as much as it is JBL being cautious about his HOF eligibility, and/or his potential return/sign-off with WWE who he has a better repoire with.

I'm sure you're right about this, JBL, while he is a huge dick, is worth something to Vince. He'd definitely get more money, and recognition in WWE. I also think, that JBL just doesn't need wrestling right now. He is already a major face in the Stock Market game, and so is his wife. I'm sure they're doing just fine, and even with TNA's milder schedule, JBL doesn't need to bang himself up anymore.

 

[Madico_Fs]

According to the Wrestling Observer, TNA pitched an offer for him to come in and work for the company, and he turned it down citing no desire to be there.

I for one couldn't be happier. I've always hated JBL. I have no idea what people see in him. He's pompous and an ass in the locker room from numerous reports throughout his career. He's also fat and jiggly, and a total bore in the ring.

If you ask me, JBL just saved TNA some serious egg on their face by telling them no.

What, we didn't learn our lesson with Booker T?

Dude ive been a Bradshaw Fan sice the APA, Bradshaw probably turned down TNA to keep his record with the WWE clean as he probably hopes to join the elite in the WWE HALL OF FAME one day. This is a show of respect Bradshaw has for Vince and the WWE

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Haha you don't think WWE built Hogan? Really?

I like how you left out guys like Orton, Shawn Michaels, Edge, Cena, Undertaker, The Rock, Jeff Hardy, Lesnar, and even some of your own guys like Lashley and Kurt Angle.

FYI, Amazing Red held the ROH tag titles with AJ at one point. I never said TNA had no stars they built from the ground, but look at the ratio between has-beens and guys they've created.

Eric Young is awful, by the way. Especially on the mic.

Edit: I like how you referenced Kazarian and Creed like they've accomplished anything at all. I'm curious why you didn't mention Beer Money (who is over as hell) and MCMG, thought I'm not quite sure on their history. TNA has some talent, but they have no idea how to use it.

Did WWE build Hogan? Sure. Had he already established himself as a credible icon prior to that in the NWA and AWA? Absolutely.

Yeah, WWE built Orton, Michaels, Edge, etc. Good for them. I never said they were incapable of building talent. I said TNA isn't incapable of the same, and for the record, why does it matter anyway? WCW was a great company, and guess who they were fronted by? 90% of their roster was ex-WWE, ECW and Luchadore. Who gives a shit? Because they didn't develop them themselves, they're unwatchable?

 

[Tastycles]

You don't know when this offer was made or for what position. As a wrestler, it would have been a horrendous decision for both parties. As an authority figure or commentator, it certainly wouldn't have been for TNA. JBL has a superb character for hating on, and I'm loathe to believe that he wouldn't have excelled as a heel GM, or indeed as a commentator. JBL had nothing to gain from it at all. He has already had the commentary experience, and is a wealthy man both from wrestling and in his own right. JBL doesn't need wrestling anymore, and I don't think wrestling ever needed JBL, so it's worked out well really.