Jeff Hardy Having Potentially Career-Ending Surgery?

[marklouis]

Some of the comments in this thread are very disappointing. I understand that you may not like Jeff Hardy or approve of what he does in his personal life. His last TNA appearance was obviously unacceptable. But if he needs significant surgery, he needs it thanks to the numerous dangerous spots he's done to entertain us. Everyone talks about Edge doing the spear of the ladder. Remember who he speared? How many times has Hardy done something ridiculous to get the crowd chanting "holy shit"? Maybe you don't like that style of wrestling, but you have to respect the fact that he's willing to do these things to entertain the fans. If he really needs the surgery, he should definitely have it, even if it does end his career. But I won't be happy about it, because it will be yet another example of the damage this business does to its stars.

 

[olando76]

I know how it is to defend your brothers because I'm the oldest of four but, saying that I'm going to say this is a bunch of B.S. Why? Because I think he is just covering up for Jeff, I could see one of my brothers shoot someone still have the smoking gun in his hands and I will deny that it happened. That is what brothers do for each other no matter how much they fight at the end of the day they're brothers and will have each others back.

 

[shattered dreams]

Well it's one mighty coincidence that Jeff Hardy leaves WWE, despite being offered an insanely light schedule and big money, and almost immediately gets busted for having ludicrous amounts of drugs.

So you really think Jeff Hardy was completely clean and became a full blown drug addict in two weeks? If so, why were the police setting all this up and tracking him prior to that?

No, it's not.

History says otherwise.

It's wrestling. The schedule is tough and the wrestler know that. Coincidentally, the contract Jeff turned down would have meant he was on the road for a maximum of two days a week (i.e. a taping and a PPV max), but usually just the one. If that's not giging him time to rest, I don't know what is.

Ask RVD how much he worked when his contract was supposed to include ample rest. What they say and then what they press you to do are quite different often. Sometimes even once a week is too much when your body really isn't right.

...The WWE drug tests are done by the same guy who does the NFL drug tests and WWE has absolutely no input in the results or the punishments.

False. The punishments are administered by the WWE. They get the test results from an independent source but after that there is zero transparency. The clause that allowed Benoit to never "fail" a test still exists.

 

[Rammsteinerteen]

You know, I hate what Jeff Hardy has done to himself. I wouldn't have minded him going to TNA, except TNA doesn't give a shit if he does drugs or not.

Jeff Hardy going through a back surgery? It's depressing, but I don't think Jeff can go at it in the ring anymore. With TNA's heartless direction, I don't want to see Jeff Hardy go at it anymore. They shouldn't even had him shown at all at the last PPV. Anyway, Jeff Hardy retiring will hopefully be better for him, to get his life straight, if it's a possibility anymore. I rather not watch Jeff Hardy wrestle anymore in the state he's in, and if he was to ever return to WWE drug free, I imagine that WWE could make a DVD for him and state that these days for Jeff Hardy are the dark days for Jeff Hardy.

And also, I hate Matt Hardy these days, but I though he showed some real class in his video today.

 

[Blu]

I ended up signing up to just post in this forum, if jeff hardy's back is actually messed up I can understand his use of pain killers to get by, I personally have a fracture in my back that may need surgery and without pain killers I'm not able to stand for more then a minute or two, if I don't have anything in me I'll end up fainting from the pain, this has happened several times where I have woken up behind the counter at a store with paramedics over me. So if Jeff's back troubles are legitimate and I believe they honestly could be cause of all the crazy stunts he's done for us the fans. If he really is this messed up then maybe it's time to retire, it would be the best for him. Just like Edge I think jeff would be happy with retirement now, he's done enough in the business to be happy. He's won the world championship which is better then hundreds of others before him who never got to have that honor.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

With all the sheer crap that Matt Hardy has spewed over the internet for the last long while, it's kind of hard for me to really look at anything he says with any real degree of validity.

On one hand, I would feel bad if Jeff Hardy has to undergo some sort of career threatening surgery. I've watched Jeff Hardy wrestle practically my entire adult life and despite how far he's fallen, he used to be a great wrestler to watch inside the ring.

At the same time, as I indicated earlier, I'm not sure if this is legit or not. Matt Hardy has really started to enjoy the sound of his own voice over the past year and a half or so and I can't help but wonder if this might just be some attempt to garner sympathy for his brother or if he's just doing this out of sheer boredom.

 

[Heartachetonight926]

I don't like Matt, I thought he was gnarly for a point but now he comes like an ass, he's more this that the other.. who cares? he's not in Edges, Christians or even Jeff's league as far as wrestling goes. He talks like wrestling isn't scripted he insults the fans intelligence as far I'm concerned.

You know what I hate? when a thread like this is posted, specifically addressing a certain situation about Jeff hardy, but people still take the time to bash and ridicule Matt hardy...who has done nothing but good in this situation. Seriously, I really don't why everyone hates this man SOOOOO much, If I were to describe some of the thing's you people say about him to a catholic church, they would think I was describing a sadistic serial killer. Oh, and for the record....what has he ever lied about? besides denying he was sent back to the states from a European tour, which he wasn't.

NOW...onto Jeff.

It doesn't surprise me that these physical issues are catching up to him, that's the risk you take when you choose to be a "High-flying dare-devil" in this business. I do wish the best for him, unlike other people...I don't condemn someone for there flaws. I've had people in my family with drug problem's very similar to Jeff's, it isn't a matter of "Good" and "bad" when it comes to someone being addicted to drug's, specifically painkillers. It's a matter of self-control, and just being plain-old addicted.

Like I said, if he does have surgery....I will miss him, not for being that great of a technical wrassler, which he wasn't...but for being one hell of an entertainer.

*Gasps* OPTIMISM!!! Shocking huh?

;-)

 

[klunderbunker]

I'm with JGlass for the msot part.

First and foremost, Jeff needs to be away for awhile. I can't recall someone being so messed up that they literally ruined a PPV main event. If it was to the point where he couldn't work a 5 minute match, that's saying a lot. If he was really that bad, Jeff needs some serious help, not a vacation.

Also, he's had a career a lot like Edge's: a ton of gimmick matches with big spots and painful landings. The Swanton is more or less jumping into the air and landing at an awkward angle on your back. he's been using that move for how many years now? If this is what it takes to keep him walking when he's 50, more power to him.

All in all I think this is for the best. Unlike Edge where he was able to work though it, Jeff couldn't as evidenced at Victory Road. If taking time off for a back injury means taking time off for substance abuse issues, that's nothing but good as Jeff needs a long break.

 

[NoChanceInHell]

Well that's the only way Matt would be in possession of a world heavyweight championship belt and that's picking it up out of the trash.

i do like how he's sticking up for his brother with this whole 'back surgery'. sure whatever you gotta do to make people feel bad for the Hardy's. I'm not falling for it. Jeff has had too many opportunities to right the ship and keeps falling on his face. All the delays in his trial are a scam too.

I will give Matt some props for being decent in TNA since his arrival but still the Hardy's ship has sailed and they should just move along.

 

[S.J. Maximus]

I'm completely disgusted by all of the apathy and the heartless remarks that everyone in this thread has felt the need to post. Jeff Hardy is a human being, how could you not care for a man whose career is on the verge of ending due to back surgery?

We all revere Shawn Michaels, and everyone's making they're signatures "Thank You Edge" and praising his career but when Jeff Hardy, the biggest face in wrestling in 2009, may go through the same process all anyone can say is "oh he's overrated" and "this is all a cover for his drug abuse". Why does everything have to be a work? Was Edge's retirement a work? What about HBK's? Treat this man with respect because he put his body on the line time and time again for the sole reason of exciting us, the fans.

I know he's done some wrong but that shouldn't take away from the good. Chris Benoit murdered his wife and son but still has more people's respect than Jeff Hardy does, which absolutely disgusts me. I respect Benoit and WM20 is my favorite one, I love his win and I'll always respect his technical abilities (like everyone else will) but why can't Jeff Hardy get that same respect for his abilities?

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

I think its legit. Look Jeff Hardy did the same spots that Edge did, so its logical that he would need back surgery or whatever to help him in the long run. As for his drug issues, we all know that he has court dates coming up and my bet is that he doesn't do jail time because he is a first time offender.

 

[TheKingHustla]

I used to be a huge Jeff Hardy fan when he and Matt were in WWE as a team. I think he's a joke now. I respect him for all he did, but damn.

I think he's having a surgery and might retire because of all the trouble he is getting in and the fact that soon, no one will want him anyway.

 

[ABMorales787]

No wrestling fan in their right mind would ever blame Jeff if he indeed does step down for surgery and self repair. We spend week after week watching these men put themselves at risk for our entertainment. Some people, like Jeff fall to the pressure and make bad decisions. But that doesn't mean that he should be tossed aside forever ostracized for his bad decisions. Mocking people for their mistakes is never going to fix them.

Jeff never seemed like a main event guy to me, but he's proven me wrong on that. Despite his bad choices he still has name value and it's really a damn shame that he at one point was so highly idolized by younger viewers even though he has his issues. Take time off. Look at your life . A smart wrestler should look back and see what happens to other wrestlers who wrestle while injured. Stone Cold's career was cut short due to postponing spinal surgery. Shawn had a similar case. Rey may fall victim soon enough. Wrestlers see this but are yet to learn from it. Jeff should get his surgery, if truly needed, as soon as possible. Same for rehab.

 

[Mustang Sally]

.... but when Jeff Hardy, the biggest face in wrestling in 2009, may go through the same process all anyone can say is "oh he's overrated" and "this is all a cover for his drug abuse". Why does everything have to be a work?

You could be right, of course....... the problem I have with it is that the timing is so opportune.

Here, we're all guessing about Jeff: Will he have to go to rehab? Is TNA going to fire him for drug use? Will they have to fire him because of his impending legal problems? Will he be able to work for another wrestling organization?

Just as we wonder about all this, suddenly a career-threatening injury pops up. Using it as a reason to retire, Jeff suddenly saves face and doesn't have to face the music on several of these issues, right?

Could the surgery angle be true? Sure, it could.....but it also seems like something a public relations agent might come up as an alternate way to keep his client out of hot water (except for the legal issues).

It almost seems as if the injury-angle came around just when Jeff needed it most. But who knows for sure?

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

You could be right, of course....... the problem I have with it is that the timing is so opportune.

Here, we're all guessing about Jeff: Will he have to go to rehab? Is TNA going to fire him for drug use? Will they have to fire him because of his impending legal problems? Will he be able to work for another wrestling organization?

Just as we wonder about all this, suddenly a career-threatening injury pops up. Using it as a reason to retire, Jeff suddenly saves face and doesn't have to face the music on several of these issues, right?

Could the surgery angle be true? Sure, it could.....but it also seems like something a public relations agent might come up as an alternate way to keep his client out of hot water (except for the legal issues).

It almost seems as if the injury-angle came around just when Jeff needed it most. But who knows for sure?

All you said is quite true.

The thing is that i just saw on the news section on wrestlezone that his wife is denying that he is considering retirement. Is it true? Who knows. Is it perfect timing because of his legal issues? Again who knows, the only things that we know for sure is that he has a court date coming up soon and that he basically took the same bumps Edge did.

Maybe he really needs the surgery, like i just said we all know that he basically took the same bumps as Edge did and Edge is retired so its not that far off for him to do the same if he has to.

 

[roy]

i dont know about matt's other videos but but he seemed to be coming acorss pretty honest here.

if jeff has to retire that would suck. he loves the business. yes he has a problem with drugs but that aside i feel sorry for him if he would have to give up his dream.

i always wondered how he went so long without being majorly injured. now it is possible that will all catch up with him.

maybe he needs to stop now. he has a lot of other dreams abd a growing family. he has done a lot in the business and really what further does he have to accomplish in tna?

 

[TheKingHustla]

All you said is quite true.

The thing is that i just saw on the news section on wrestlezone that his wife is denying that he is considering retirement. Is it true? Who knows. Is it perfect timing because of his legal issues? Again who knows, the only things that we know for sure is that he has a court date coming up soon and that he basically took the same bumps Edge did.

Maybe he really needs the surgery, like i just said we all know that he basically took the same bumps as Edge did and Edge is retired so its not that far off for him to do the same if he has to.

I think that if you take into the account of people "taking the same bumps as Edge" that would mean tons of people should be retiring. I don't think that that is a great way to measure it. Their bodies aren't exactly alike and no two bumps are exactly the same. I think it sounds very suspicious because of the timing. Edge stated that he had extra tests done by WWE, and anybody who goes back to his previous matches, he was visibly hurting, always holding his neck and things like that, have you seen that in Jeff? Did Jeff get tested by TNA to see if he could still compete? It seems like it would be an easy out for him because of the "Edge" comparison and everything works so well that it just seems like an excuse to get out of trouble.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

TheKingHustla, you have a point there, Edge and Jeff Hardy don't have the same body and no two bumps are alike.

Edge stated that he had extra tests done by WWE, and anybody who goes back to his previous matches, he was visibly hurting, always holding his neck and things like that, have you seen that in Jeff? Did Jeff get tested by TNA to see if he could still compete?

Who knows (besides Matt, Jeff and his wife ) if Jeff got tested by TNA to see if he could still compete, its been a month since we last saw him on TV so he could have done the tests.

 

[Lucid]

I don't buy much of what Matt has to say.
I don't blame the guy for trying to make his brother seem less troubled.
Does that mean Jeff or Matt aren't troubled? No.
They clearly are. Both of them. Troubled by the fact that they have fallen so far, perhaps.
Does that make them less responsible for their choices? No.
Everyone makes bad decisions. And everyone has to live with the consequences.

 

[PileDriver]

The first thing I tought when watching this video: they are making up an excuse for Jeff to quit wrestling without it having to be because of drugs.
Just an attempt to save Jeffs face, if that's possible any more.
And I'm not even an Hardy-hater.

 

[originallysane]

since when did "career ending surgery" means so coked and cracked out your mind you think you are a squirrel who has lost his nuts?

edge has a proper career ending reason jeff is just hooked on various drugs and looking for a "legitiamate" reason because tna dont want him back because of the backlash from victory road and noone else wants him because he is a mess who is being charged for drug trafficking and is a fruit loop

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

since when did "career ending surgery" means so coked and cracked out your mind you think you are a squirrel who has lost his nuts?

edge has a proper career ending reason jeff is just hooked on various drugs and looking for a "legitiamate" reason because tna dont want him back because of the backlash from victory road and noone else wants him because he is a mess who is being charged for drug trafficking and is a fruit loop

Maybe, but again who knows? It could be true or it could be a cop-out like most posters have said. Me i think it could be true, yes his body is not the same as Edge and no two bumps are alike but he did do all the "Stunts" he did and that takes a toll on a body regardless of who you are.

 

[DethMetal]

I'm completely disgusted by all of the apathy and the heartless remarks that everyone in this thread has felt the need to post. Jeff Hardy is a human being, how could you not care for a man whose career is on the verge of ending due to back surgery?

We all revere Shawn Michaels, and everyone's making they're signatures "Thank You Edge" and praising his career but when Jeff Hardy, the biggest face in wrestling in 2009, may go through the same process all anyone can say is "oh he's overrated" and "this is all a cover for his drug abuse". Why does everything have to be a work? Was Edge's retirement a work? What about HBK's? Treat this man with respect because he put his body on the line time and time again for the sole reason of exciting us, the fans.

I know he's done some wrong but that shouldn't take away from the good. Chris Benoit murdered his wife and son but still has more people's respect than Jeff Hardy does, which absolutely disgusts me. I respect Benoit and WM20 is my favorite one, I love his win and I'll always respect his technical abilities (like everyone else will) but why can't Jeff Hardy get that same respect for his abilities?

I agree. Jeff Hardy is a grade-A screw up. However, I still respect him as one of my favorites once upon a time, and respect him for helping making the TLC and making the ladder match more known. I wouldn't blame him for taking the surgery. I've said it before, Jeff is gonna be another one of those wrestlers who die by age 40, which is a sad thing to think about.

 

[TheKingHustla]

I'm completely disgusted by all of the apathy and the heartless remarks that everyone in this thread has felt the need to post. Jeff Hardy is a human being, how could you not care for a man whose career is on the verge of ending due to back surgery?

We all revere Shawn Michaels, and everyone's making they're signatures "Thank You Edge" and praising his career but when Jeff Hardy, the biggest face in wrestling in 2009, may go through the same process all anyone can say is "oh he's overrated" and "this is all a cover for his drug abuse". Why does everything have to be a work? Was Edge's retirement a work? What about HBK's? Treat this man with respect because he put his body on the line time and time again for the sole reason of exciting us, the fans.

I know he's done some wrong but that shouldn't take away from the good. Chris Benoit murdered his wife and son but still has more people's respect than Jeff Hardy does, which absolutely disgusts me. I respect Benoit and WM20 is my favorite one, I love his win and I'll always respect his technical abilities (like everyone else will) but why can't Jeff Hardy get that same respect for his abilities?

I think a huge reason for it is because of when it takes place. What I mean by that is look at Edge, he retires at the top of the business. Benoit's death was horrible but people still respected his abilities because of the timing. nothing happened before then to tarnish his rep. Tons of things have already tarnished Jeff's rep so regardless of if he did great things, those things have been overshadowed by the here and now. Maybe further down the line people will feel better about Jeff and his retirement but as of right now, the "what have you done lately" reality is that Jeff has been horrible lately. Edge hasn't, Benoit hadn't, many other glorified retired or deceased superstars havn't. The most recent things are whats fresh on people's minds.

 

[megadethjason]

Its probably a storyline. Think Edge is retiring (sounds legit) so why not have his close friend say he is retiring then return at a PPV to challenge for the TNA title?