Jeff Hardy Having Potentially Career-Ending Surgery?

[ARLO]

I know that there aren't many Hardy fans left, but I'm proud to say that I'm one.

I've subscribed to Matt's Youtube account, but I usually skip over his vids. I decided to view his most recent one because I knew he would talk about Edge. Here it is, I suggest you watch it before contributing here:

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So basically he says here that Edge's career-ending injury where if he took one more bump he could become paralyzed has opened his eyes. He says he'll never take anything for granted, which I think is pretty cool.

He then goes on to say that Jeff is probably going to have back surgery and it has the potential to force him into retirement as well.

I know many think he could get sacked and whatnot, but I never considered that this gave him time to assess his injuries and what they could do to him in the long run.

What are your thoughts on this possibility?

 

[Alex]

I always thought one of the main reasons Jeff Hardy has had problems with drugs is because of all the insane bumps he's taken.

That being said if he has this surgury and he can't wrestle anymore I'd be disappointed but at the same time I'd rather the guy not wrestle and still live a normal life than to have a match and then end up in a wheelchair. I mean he can still contribute in some form like backstage or whatnot, heck let him design the PPV posters or something.

 

[jake122683]

I think Matt Hardy is talking out of his ass/high.

I feel sorry for the people sleeping in that hotel hallway. Can you imagine, it is like 3 in the morning and some pudgy guy high on drugs with awful hair is making a youtube video in the hallway about this? At least, that was what was on my mind during the video...

 

[DeathClutch]

I don't like Matt, I thought he was gnarly for a point but now he comes like an ass, he's more this that the other.. who cares? he's not in Edges, Christians or even Jeff's league as far as wrestling goes. He talks like wrestling isn't scripted he insults the fans intelligence as far I'm concerned.

 

[Mustang Sally]

I always thought one of the main reasons Jeff Hardy has had problems with drugs is because of all the insane bumps he's taken.

It's impossible to know for sure, but I've always thought the reason for the drugs might be that it's a lifestyle choice he's made of his own free will. He was willing to leave a high-paying, high-profile job at WWE because they kept hassling him about his drug use. Rather than giving up his precious drugs, he quit and joined the other wrestling company, who might have acquiesced to his desire to keep on using (to their detriment, as it turned out).

Okay, so now we're reading that he might be forced out of wrestling by career ending surgery. Maybe it's because of all the bumps he's taken......or maybe it's Jeff keeping one step ahead of the posse. Maybe he's exhausted his chances with two wrestling organizations and is looking for a way out that saves face.

Or, maybe TNA is orchestrating this; they might have told him: "If you won't give up the damn drugs, we can't employ you anymore..... but we'll publicize that you're leaving because of major surgery so you won't be embarrassed."

Just a thought.

 

[farlance]

"I always thought one of the main reasons Jeff Hardy has had problems with drugs is because of all the insane bumps he's taken."

Haha, I thought the opposite. That he was taking all those insane bumps because he was on drugs lol. Its one of those chicken or egg questions you may never get answered.

Anyway, funny how Jeff magically may have career ending back surgery right about the time when all wrestling companies are fed up with him and wont let him wrestle anyway. Sounds like a cop out to me. I could be wrong, who knows.

 

[Shadowbladez]

I am not sure what to think but it could be true that Jeff is taking drugs due to all the pain and everything his body has been through over the years. I just feel a little bit more respect for Matt after watching this video. Just my opinion.

 

[Clem]

Who wants Jeff back in a wrestling ring anyway?

He's blown every opportunity he's been given, whether it be in WWE or TNA.

 

[DethMetal]

Another career ending?? I hate to say this since this is the excuse wrestling fans use for every-freakin-thing, but this could be a work. TNA could be orchestrating this to put the seed in fans' heads that he won't return after Victory Road. Jeff has needed to be gone for a while now. I appreciate all that he's done in terms of matches, etc., but unless he gets his crap together, maybe it's best. I not damning his career, but how many second chances does he deserve?

 

[nbrew2119]

All this is to me is a man that cant take it when he/his brother arent in the spotlight.

Over the last couple months, Jeff Hardy was talked about a lot due to his "match" with Sting, and his drug problems, and now with Edge retiring, the spotlight is off the Hardys.

Just a bad attempt to get it back on the Hardys in my opinion. If Jeff is undergoing surgery, so be it, but, I dont think he is, how often does Matt Hardy tell the truth anyway?

 

[darbare]

I find this to be pretty low especially if there isnt a damn thing wrong with Jeff. Coming off a legit retirement from Edge, and to cop out with this bullshit looks horrible. Matt is never gonna take the reigns of anything because he never has and never will. He believes in his own hype more than anyone else. Obviously no one else is buying his bullshit fallacies because he is full of shit. You didnt help create an era Matt you just tagged along. Jeff and Edge did all of the spots, thats why they had the careers they had. Christian took more bumps than you and thats why hes had an even better career than you.

 

[brandogg]

Jeff's career has been over for years. It ended when he first left WWE because of his drug issues - he never kicked them, and that guy that you saw win the WWE championship when he returned...that guy was not Jeff Hardy. Honestly I'll never understand his popularity. Sure he had the "I don't care about my body" mentality and would destroy himself for the fans, but he was never a good wrestlers, botched the Swanton 9/10 times, always sucked on the mic and caused nothing but trouble for WWE and TNA for the past 10 years or so. I got behind Matt Hardy when he got fired for being a crybaby on the internet, but then you see what kind of douchebag he is in real life too. I think he actually had more talent than Jeff, but that all went to waste too.

 

[yur_momma]

matt is an idiot. just more of matt defending his brother even though he doesnt deserve it. remember matt swearing up and down his brother was innocent and all the charges were BS, no one had the right to judge, the police set jeff up, the prosecutor is a liar, etc...then jeff pleads guilty!! HAHAHA! fuck the hardys both of them have ego's the size of a planet and neither one should. sounds like matt is setting up another excuse for jeff.

"its not the drugs because my brother has never touched drugs, its ll lies, your all liars and have no right to judge anything! my brother retired because of surgery... like edge!"

yeah, right matt. your an excuse machine.

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

Haha, I thought the opposite. That he was taking all those insane bumps because he was on drugs lol. Its one of those chicken or egg questions you may never get answered.

The egg came first, chickens evolved from whatever came out of previous eggs. (QI)

To be honest, if Jeff were forced to give up wrestling, it's hard to see him getting/staying clean. Without wrestling, what does he have? His music and arts projects, neither of which would demand he stay clean. On the contrary, one can argue that those kind of projects are better fueled by drug use to channel a 'creative' mindset.

Mind you, it is a Hardy vid, so whatever he says should be taken with at least a pinch, if not a fist of salt.

 

[Matth3w]

To be honest, if Jeff were forced to give up wrestling, it's hard to see him getting/staying clean. Without wrestling, what does he have? His music and arts projects, neither of which would demand he stay clean. On the contrary, one can argue that those kind of projects are better fueled by drug use to channel a 'creative' mindset.

Well hers hoping his dad or someone else close to him can sit him down. Tell him to go a bit easier on his life. He's 35, is now married and has a 6 month old daughter. From what I've heard and seen on TV shows ala celebrity rehab and Dr. Phil, usually this is a wake up call for even the most extreme of junkies to get off the drugs and put their family first.

But, this is Jeff Hardy we're talking about here....

 

[shattered dreams]

It's impossible to know for sure, but I've always thought the reason for the drugs might be that it's a lifestyle choice he's made of his own free will. He was willing to leave a high-paying, high-profile job at WWE because they kept hassling him about his drug use. Rather than giving up his precious drugs, he quit and joined the other wrestling company, who might have acquiesced to his desire to keep on using (to their detriment, as it turned out).

Frankly, this is bullshit. The way people have rewritten history is ridiculous. Jeff Hardy did not leave WWE because they were hassling him about his drug use just to go to TNA and do drugs. WTF does such a statement even mean? Even if it were true it would mean WWE was coddling drug abusers which would be an interesting situation for those that claim the wellness policy is the greatest, most perfect thing ever.

By almost all reports Jeff Hardy was trying to take some time off because he was in rough shape. That probably meant physically but it isn't much of a stretch to see physical issues translate into painkiller issues with ANY wrestler. WWE kept getting him to sign on for a "just a little bit longer" after his contract was up. They needed him and he wanted a break. On a different note if you really cared about the wellness of these guys you would give them the time to rest when they ask for it. The last thing they were doing was hassling him about drug use. He got arrested two weeks after leaving. Jeff did not leave WWE to go to TNA. He left to get some time off. He did not sign with TNA until over 6 months later. WWE was still trying to sign deals with him, maybe even after he got arrested. Anyone denying that Jeff has significant physical issues is an idiot. That isn't an excuse for using drugs by any means but it certainly has been a vicious part of the lifecycle of being a prowrestler for years.

One last idiot statement: A wrestler gets addicted to painkillers because of a personal lifestyle choice (unless by lifestyle choice you mean chosen profession).

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Awful news. I'm a big fan of Jeff's, despite all his issues.

It'd be a real shame if his last match in professional wrestling was that fuck up with Sting. That's an embarrassing way to go out, even for a guy with that many problems in life.

Everyone deserves second chances, Jeff included. I'm aware he's had his fair share of them, including third and fourth chances, but he's a phenomenal talent who deserves the opportunities to better himself so long as he feels the same way.

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

Well hers hoping his dad or someone else close to him can sit him down. Tell him to go a bit easier on his life. He's 35, is now married and has a 6 month old daughter. From what I've heard and seen on TV shows ala celebrity rehab and Dr. Phil, usually this is a wake up call for even the most extreme of junkies to get off the drugs and put their family first.

But, this is Jeff Hardy we're talking about here....

Yeh, I know 35 isn't that old, but he has other responsibilities like his family as you say that he needs to step up to so you figure someone might have had a word before all this.

There's a comedian called Doug Stanhope who I saw last week who has a good routine about celebrity doctors and he's very cynical of them. I know you're not suggesting he go and see Dr Phil, but I think whoever is close to Jeff and wants him to clean himself up needs to take a tough stance and say, "Yes, you have had a very good career, but this situation is about more than you, it's about being a role model to your kid."

He has done some stupid things, but I don't want to see the guy capitulate and burn out.

 

[MHardy_Fan]

Awesome video! I am looking forward to what Matt has to offer in TNA for the coming months. Obviously, a world title reign is in his future. Forget these haters..

 

[TheHitMark-SirJoseOle]

It's impossible to know for sure, but I've always thought the reason for the drugs might be that it's a lifestyle choice he's made of his own free will. He was willing to leave a high-paying, high-profile job at WWE because they kept hassling him about his drug use. Rather than giving up his precious drugs, he quit and joined the other wrestling company, who might have acquiesced to his desire to keep on using (to their detriment, as it turned out).

Okay, so now we're reading that he might be forced out of wrestling by career ending surgery. Maybe it's because of all the bumps he's taken......or maybe it's Jeff keeping one step ahead of the posse. Maybe he's exhausted his chances with two wrestling organizations and is looking for a way out that saves face.

Or, maybe TNA is orchestrating this; they might have told him: "If you won't give up the damn drugs, we can't employ you anymore..... but we'll publicize that you're leaving because of major surgery so you won't be embarrassed."

Just a thought.

Please don't tell me you buy the whole WWE Wellness Policy stuff now do you? Granted, I am not going to justify anyone's drug use or make excuses for them, but it just seems because WWE is being PR-Friendly by saying they implement this policy and that policy automatically makes them free of any liability or pressure that they put their performers under? Also do people absolutely believe WWE on how effective their testing measures are? I think there's always room to be suspicious of them, after all you seem to inclined to believe TNA is pulling deception here with the Hardy surgery deal, hell what makes WWE any less inclined to do the same thing. Hell it was mentioned that Linda McMahon tipped off the WWF's old steroid doctor George Zahorian that the feds were on to him.

We pretty much know how the entertainment business is, shady stuff goes on all the time, neither you or I really know the true story behind WWE and Jeff Hardy's relationship. Say what you want about the man's surgery coming up as a PR coverup, that's fine but let's not play the whole praise WWE BS card.

And like Shattered Dreams told you, Jeff Hardy didn't just jump back to TNA, he had a few months to think about where he wanted to go so instead of going back to WWE he chose to go back to TNA.

And to be fair maybe to Jeff Hardy there really might be some physical problems that stem from all the bangups he's had over the years. After all were you the one that flipped off the top of a ladder through a table at WrestleMania 2000 or were you the one that took a spear while hanging from a ceiling? Again some people handle their pain better than others and don't have the same issues like Edge who's now retiring (at least that we know of) but for every Edge you have that's retiring there's an Eddie Guerrero, Curt Hennig, Rick Rude and yes even Jeff Hardy to show that this lifestyle can drive people to some pretty unfortunate circumstances in their lives. Again Jeff Hardy's fault but if he does need surgery on top of all his drug dependencies this is not exactly a shocker here.

Again, not going to write Jeff Hardy a free pass but I'm sure as hell not going to judge him or anyone else in the wrestling business like some other people here seem SOOOOO inclined to do, not naming any names here of course.

 

[JGlass]

Obligatory Anti-Jeff Hardy Comment: The first surgery he should get is brain surgery!

Now that I got that out of the way, here are my true feelings on the situation.

This might be the best thing that ever happened to Jeff. If he's smart he gets the surgery, takes all the pain medication he needs to get past the back pain, checks himself into rehab and quits the pills, and most importantly, he never laces up a pair of wrestling boots again.

Of course, that's IF Jeff Hardy is smart, and he's proven time and time again that he's not smart.

I'm rooting for Jeff to do the right thing and get the surgery and end his career, but we all know that this is not the most likely option. What's more likely to happen is that Jeff will either forgo the surgery to wrestle for a few more years, surviving on pain pills and whatever else he can get his hands on, or Jeff will get the surgery and ignore doctors and return to wrestling. Maybe he'll stop doing the insane spots that have helped make his career what it is, but he'll still be taking bumps on a weekly basis.

 

[Remix]

Frankly, this is bullshit. The way people have rewritten history is ridiculous. Jeff Hardy did not leave WWE because they were hassling him about his drug use just to go to TNA and do drugs. WTF does such a statement even mean? Even if it were true it would mean WWE was coddling drug abusers which would be an interesting situation for those that claim the wellness policy is the greatest, most perfect thing ever.

Well it's one mighty coincidence that Jeff Hardy leaves WWE, despite being offered an insanely light schedule and big money, and almost immediately gets busted for having ludicrous amounts of drugs.

And then there's The Victory Road situation. Jeff may not have left WWE because he wanted to use drugs again, but he damn sure did after he left.

By almost all reports Jeff Hardy was trying to take some time off because he was in rough shape. That probably meant physically but it isn't much of a stretch to see physical issues translate into painkiller issues with ANY wrestler.

No, it's not.

WWE kept getting him to sign on for a "just a little bit longer" after his contract was up. They needed him and he wanted a break. On a different note if you really cared about the wellness of these guys you would give them the time to rest when they ask for it.

It's wrestling. The schedule is tough and the wrestler know that. Coincidentally, the contract Jeff turned down would have meant he was on the road for a maximum of two days a week (i.e. a taping and a PPV max), but usually just the one. If that's not giging him time to rest, I don't know what is.

The last thing they were doing was hassling him about drug use. He got arrested two weeks after leaving. Jeff did not leave WWE to go to TNA. He left to get some time off. He did not sign with TNA until over 6 months later.

The two suspensions, referral to rehab (mandatory after the second drug test failure) suggest that WWE were hassling him in his early days and the piss tests kept him on the straight and narrow. And for 3 of those 6 months he legally couldn't go to TNA.

WWE was still trying to sign deals with him, maybe even after he got arrested.

Shockingly, Jeff was still an asset. I doubt WWE had much interest after the drugs bust though. Getting caught with cocaine is a nono for a company trying to kepe its nose clean.

Anyone denying that Jeff has significant physical issues is an idiot. That isn't an excuse for using drugs by any means but it certainly has been a vicious part of the lifecycle of being a prowrestler for years.

After back bumping onto ladders for so long, I'd be shocked if he didn't have physical issues.

Please don't tell me you buy the whole WWE Wellness Policy stuff now do you? Granted, I am not going to justify anyone's drug use or make excuses for them, but it just seems because WWE is being PR-Friendly by saying they implement this policy and that policy automatically makes them free of any liability or pressure that they put their performers under?

No, the policy means that anybody who abuses drugs gets caught and punnished. if they're addicted they can go to rehab.

Also do people absolutely believe WWE on how effective their testing measures are? I think there's always room to be suspicious of them, after all you seem to inclined to believe TNA is pulling deception here with the Hardy surgery deal, hell what makes WWE any less inclined to do the same thing. Hell it was mentioned that Linda McMahon tipped off the WWF's old steroid doctor George Zahorian that the feds were on to him.

...The WWE drug tests are done by the same guy who does the NFL drug tests and WWE has absolutely no input in the results or the punishments.

Sidenote: have you noticed that in photos of wrestlers out and about that they aren't wearing fanny packs any more? That's actually a sign that the policy IS working. Because ask any old school wrestler what's in it, and they'll tell you that it's where they keep their meds.

We pretty much know how the entertainment business is, shady stuff goes on all the time, neither you or I really know the true story behind WWE and Jeff Hardy's relationship. Say what you want about the man's surgery coming up as a PR coverup, that's fine but let's not play the whole praise WWE BS card.

They sure as hell kept Jeff Hardy healthier than TNA does. He was never drugged to hell on PPV in WWE.

 

[Honkey_Kong]

Well, it's easy for a third party to criticize Jeff Hardy for his drug use. But, the truth is, whether he gets clean or stays on drugs for the rest of his life is none of our business. So what if he's hooked on drugs, he chose that life for himself. You can try to blame it on the pains of being a wrestler, but if they were that bad for him, he could have always stepped out of the business and got a regular job.

As far as his possible career-ending back surgery goes, I think this is most likely a TNA work. It's just so conveniently following Edge's retirement. But then again, I'm just speculating. I wouldn't doubt it though. Those falls Hardy took over the years were bad and if all he needs is a career-ending back surgery for it, then he got off easy.

 

[hothead25]

matt's clearly still popping pills as evidenced in that video. sheeesh

 

[Mustang Sally]

We pretty much know how the entertainment business is, shady stuff goes on all the time, neither you or I really know the true story behind WWE and Jeff Hardy's relationship. Say what you want about the man's surgery coming up as a PR coverup, that's fine but let's not play the whole praise WWE BS card.

Very true, and I'm not equating WWE to good guys while seeing TNA as bad guys. None of us know what actually happens behind the scenes and that leaves us to form opinions based on what we've seen and read.

One thing that seems to be true is that WWE suspended Jeff Hardy twice for drug use. Whether they would have fired him for a third offense is anyone's guess; personally, I have my doubts.

Still, I can see Jeff believing that WWE should leave him alone as far as his drug use. I think he fulfilled his contract, took a few months off while intimating to WWE that he would be returning......and then signed with TNA, which may have been his intention all along. I believe he might have told them he would join if they didn't bug him about his recreational drug use.....and, being excited to sign a WWE star in his prime, I believe they might have told him he wouldn't be bothered with such trivialities in TNA. Then, of course, that came back to bite them in the ass, but it's hard to feel sorry for TNA if they knew all along what they were getting.

I think Jeff Hardy was going to have a banged-up body wherever he chose to wrestle; so if he was going to practice his trade, why not do it where he could make the most money and where he was receiving a major push? To me, the difference was that he could use his damn drugs as much as he wanted in one company; whereas the other company wanted to restrict his drug use. Whether WWE was more interested in protecting Jeff or themselves is something we don't know; my guess is that it was a combination of both.

I respect those who think he left WWE strictly to pursue a lesser work schedule; that's their opinion. This is mine.