WWE.com has just posted an article announcing Jamie Noble's retirement from the squared circle. I know he wasn't much more than a cruiserweight jobber to the mid-carders, but he did have an interesting storyline with Nidia early on in his career. Tough break for the kid, I didn't think he got enough respect for his work in the ring or much of a chance in the mid-card.
Jamie Noble retires
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Considering how he's been used for the last few years, I'm happy for him. He doesn't need what Vince has been doing to him. He was great when the Cruiserweight Belt mattered, and for crying out loud, he made me care about a Hornswoggle segment.
He was OK on the mic, talented in the ring, and because of his size, was never given a serious push from anyone...
He was OK on the mic, talented in the ring, and because of his size, was never given a serious push from anyone...
ECW Dan Selby
Occasional Pre-Show
Can somebody say "angle"?
It's clearly been done to put Sheamus over. Noble is nothing more than a trainer 95% of the time anyway.
Apparently, Noble's respected backstage as a good seller, and a good trainer to younger guys coming through. It's merely killing 2 birds with 1 stone. Probably a good move from Jamie, as he clearly wasn't going to get anywhere at this point in his career.
Selby
It's clearly been done to put Sheamus over. Noble is nothing more than a trainer 95% of the time anyway.
Apparently, Noble's respected backstage as a good seller, and a good trainer to younger guys coming through. It's merely killing 2 birds with 1 stone. Probably a good move from Jamie, as he clearly wasn't going to get anywhere at this point in his career.
Selby
I could, but when was the last time he was relevant enough to warrant an angle? He's not coming back...
Sheamus is being given the same line up that Kozlov had during his push, except he gets more than 1 match with each, because McIntyre needs people to beat on over on SD.
Turd Ferguson
DA-DA Da Da Da Bah Da Da DADADA
Well, I look at it this way, Noble actually gets a sendoff rather than just disappearing. He was really good for what he was as a comedy character who just wanted to get laid, but he was a really good in-ring wrestler for the most part, showing off how good he was during the dying days of WCW, his run as Cruiserweight Champion, and his ROH stuff was really good as well, at one point being their champion. I wish he was really able to showcase how good he can be a little more in the WWE, but he has a trainer role with the company, and at least he'll be able to pass on his expertise to the up and comers.
And in the end too, he does a lot for Sheamus, as that match he had with Noble was the next step into making Sheamus a character who nobody wants a part of due to his sheer brutality.
And in the end too, he does a lot for Sheamus, as that match he had with Noble was the next step into making Sheamus a character who nobody wants a part of due to his sheer brutality.
in case none of you knew it or not.. jamie noble is pretty tight with shawn michaels and a BUNCH of the higher ups in the backstage area so i wouldnt worry too much over him. sounds like a work to me too, and i think noble would actually be much better off leaving the wwe and going somewhere else.. the x-division in tna would be great for him.. but as long as he's buddies with hbk etc he will always have a place in vinnie land
Ambiguous Turd
Mid-Card Championship Winner
I actually think this may be legitimate, as I certainly can't see them giving Jamie Noble, of all people, a huge push at all. The guy is an Agent, so perhaps they are simply retiring him to work with the talent, instead. Also, in the process, it gives Sheamus a huge rub from it.
Certainly wish Noble the best, if it is legitimate, and it probably is.
Certainly wish Noble the best, if it is legitimate, and it probably is.
XgringolocoX
Championship Contender
Funny people. He's JUST a trainer 95% of the time, he's lucky cause he wasn't being used properly anyway....umm news flash, he was being used exactly the way he was needed. You have to understand that you only make bigger stars with people like Jaime Noble. Being able to teach the new stars, and to put them over on screen is a HUGE asset to the WWE and the wrestling business in general. Any one realize what Kane's been doing for most of his tenure? Chavo? Haas?
The simple fact is that you need these guys to do the job. There was an RVD quote on the site that said something like 'where's all the jobber matches? you need those to build guys up so you're not seeing huge superstar vs huge superstar every night. it takes the excitement of finally getting to see those big matches away." (my words, same message).
As you don't have those on todays program all to often, aside from beth's matches, you need to have a job squad. write the list yourself, we all kknow who they are. Just remember that it's not exactly a bad thing. It gives a guy a paycheck and helps the business.
The simple fact is that you need these guys to do the job. There was an RVD quote on the site that said something like 'where's all the jobber matches? you need those to build guys up so you're not seeing huge superstar vs huge superstar every night. it takes the excitement of finally getting to see those big matches away." (my words, same message).
As you don't have those on todays program all to often, aside from beth's matches, you need to have a job squad. write the list yourself, we all kknow who they are. Just remember that it's not exactly a bad thing. It gives a guy a paycheck and helps the business.
TheBigCheez-It
Making ankles snap since 1998.
I'd like to wish Noble luck with his future endevors. He has talent in the ring and that's true.
Can sell extremely well, and did a good job at making Sheamus look brutal.
Can sell extremely well, and did a good job at making Sheamus look brutal.
Glad you got a nice laugh. I'm happy for you.
Actually, hes probably one of the WWE's best agents. Not a trainer.
RAWR! I'm a tiger. I'm not sure what this has to do with anything.
To kill, steal, and destroy all humanity! Oh wait thats satan. Actually Noble should have been used to promote a cruiserweight division say on ECW. Noble is probably one of the best talents the WWE has in ring wise.
You make people bigger stars with people like Chris Masters, R-Truth, William Regal, etc...Not Jamie Noble. Noble is could be used as one of the most entertaining parts of the WWE show, a crusierweight division. The cruiserweights, and light weights are what should be entertaining people to come and watch the show, whereas the heavyweights draw in the big crouds.
Jamie Noble doesn't teach them anything, he simply has a couple matches with them and goes off of TV for another few months. You are acting as if he goes through immense amounts of training with these type guys, which is absurd.
Funny you mention WWE's biggest waste of talent, ever. Everytime this guy gets to the point of stardom, the WWE knocked him right back down to a jobber of the new guys.
Should be in the cruiserweight department.
Should be in the cruiserweight department.
Funny you present this as a "simple" fact, when its opinion based. In my opinion guys could, and should be started out a little bit like Dolph Ziggler was.
Looked good, and look where Dolph is today.
Yes, ask RVD, the worlds biggest pothead ever. He threw away his entire career for pot, I'm not going to listen to a word he says about any type of jobbers, main event, or anything. Hes probably just high.
Yes you do. I've not watched in a little under a month, and I'm lost as hell. Whos this Kofi Kingston guy Randy Orton had a match with last night? Wasn't he jamaican like, 2 weeks ago?
Shes disgusting.
Sure you do, but don't waste peoples talent like Jamie Nobles on some jobber style of match.
This is kayfabe guys. Come on, you think Noble would retire after that? He's not even that old. It's obviously an angle, I mean come on guys, the article says he decided to retire while recovering from the injuries he sustained from Sheamus---which is all an angle. Obviously he isn't injured, and he's certainly not retiring, maybe from the WWE, but I guaran-damn-tee we have most certainly not seen the last of Jamie Noble in a wrestling ring.
I guarantee that Noble is not only not retiring, but this will all lead to a Sheamus vs Noble match. The event crowd will be firmly against Sheamus and and extremely pro-Noble, with a crap-load of "let's go Jamie" chants.
Why you ask? What would be the point of this? Who knows. Why does WWE do half of what they do? This is just my gut feeling. For some reason, I would actually really like to see this "David vs Goliath" type match with these two.
If I'm completely and entirely wrong, it certainly won't be the first time.
Why you ask? What would be the point of this? Who knows. Why does WWE do half of what they do? This is just my gut feeling. For some reason, I would actually really like to see this "David vs Goliath" type match with these two.
If I'm completely and entirely wrong, it certainly won't be the first time.
thewrestlinghero
Pre-Show Stalwart
Sorry to see Jamie Noble retire he was awesome in that feud with Chuck Palumbo two bad wwe never gave that feud at least one ppv match. Yeah but I don't necessary see Noble actually retiring from the ring. I mean in wrestling almost no one retires in less your injuies are that bad.
Maybe he retired from wwe but I could see not going to tna but go for apperence or two for roh pwg dgusa.
Maybe he retired from wwe but I could see not going to tna but go for apperence or two for roh pwg dgusa.
Personally, I'd like to see more of the total, unknown jobber style matches Rob Van Dam mentions as well. As boring as those are, it allows the audience to get to know the performers, their finishers, etc., and builds anticipation for matches between to "name" wrestlers. At the same time, even back in the day when the non-named jobber matches were common on WWF television, there were performers who had "name recognition" but still jobbed all the time. In the mid/late-80s, it was kind of a tiered system with the no-name local jobber on the bottom, guys like "Iron" Mike Sharpe, Salvatore Bellomo, Barry Horowitz, Rock 'n Roll Buck Zumhoff, Leapin' Lanny Poffo on the next level, people like Jim Brunzell, The Moondogs, Afa the Samoan (often former tag champs or one-time tag challengers) next and then on up to the main event performers.
My partial point is that even then there were wrestlers who did the job every week who people would have quite possibly argued at great length should not have been in that position, that should have been used differently. In smaller regional federations around the country, these guys often received pushes and title reigns before hitting WWF -- or even after/during their time in Stamford because of their name recognition in the WWF.
This is the category of performer where Jamie Noble seems most destined to go down, ultimately. He had some great Cruiserweight bouts, an extended run as the champ even, but he won't really be remembered for much beyond that other than jobbing all the time. It's just his fate in life.
As for why WWE would give him a retirement/return angle, I'm not sure. I'm more inclined to think they're taking this route to push Sheamus, not to bring Noble back to an enthusiastic crowd response. It would genuinely surprise me to find a Sheamus/Noble follow-up match occur. Were Noble a bigger star at the time of his departure, I'd say it would be a sure-bet. But what's the point of even a mini-push for Noble, when they know it's right back to Jobs-ville afterward?
Then again, crazier things have happened. Anyone remember the tiny little push Barry Horowitz got a few years back? "Horowitz wins! Horowitz wins! Horowitz wins!"
My partial point is that even then there were wrestlers who did the job every week who people would have quite possibly argued at great length should not have been in that position, that should have been used differently. In smaller regional federations around the country, these guys often received pushes and title reigns before hitting WWF -- or even after/during their time in Stamford because of their name recognition in the WWF.
This is the category of performer where Jamie Noble seems most destined to go down, ultimately. He had some great Cruiserweight bouts, an extended run as the champ even, but he won't really be remembered for much beyond that other than jobbing all the time. It's just his fate in life.
As for why WWE would give him a retirement/return angle, I'm not sure. I'm more inclined to think they're taking this route to push Sheamus, not to bring Noble back to an enthusiastic crowd response. It would genuinely surprise me to find a Sheamus/Noble follow-up match occur. Were Noble a bigger star at the time of his departure, I'd say it would be a sure-bet. But what's the point of even a mini-push for Noble, when they know it's right back to Jobs-ville afterward?
Then again, crazier things have happened. Anyone remember the tiny little push Barry Horowitz got a few years back? "Horowitz wins! Horowitz wins! Horowitz wins!"
I'm still convinced this will lead to a Sheamus-Noble match, but I agree 100% that it will not be for a Noble push, but rather for a Sheamus heel-push. For some reason, I just picture Noble getting a great response in the ring. Then again, if Sheamus does his job correctly (and if the match is booked correctly), even someone like Chavo would get a great crowd response.
If he is, in fact, retiring, then I think he deserves a decent send-off. A well thought-out, exciting match could be just the ticket, even if it's ulterior motive is to push Sheamus as a dominant mid-card heel.
wrestling fan 666
Pre-Show Stalwart
First of all, I do not tend to believe anything posted on WWE.com without hearing it on Wrestlezone as well. If it's true, it's too bad. As much as we get annoyed by some of the "mid-card jobbers', they do help build up the up and comers. Jamie had talent, but injuries do happen whether it was meant to just look that way or something mis-cued and the wrestler is seriously hurt.
One of my favorite Noble story lines was with Regal over Layla. When he was trying to prove his "manhood" by defeating contenders and getting his ass handed to him. He had the whole crowd hoping just once he'd beat someone...he had the David and Goliath thing going for him.
The ironic thing about this is to all of you "critics" who criticized Sheamus for not making a first impression on his Raw debut; now you criticize how he came back and destroyed Noble. Sometimes you just can't please wrestling fans. Sadly, I was one also who picked on Sheamus' bad debut.
One of my favorite Noble story lines was with Regal over Layla. When he was trying to prove his "manhood" by defeating contenders and getting his ass handed to him. He had the whole crowd hoping just once he'd beat someone...he had the David and Goliath thing going for him.
The ironic thing about this is to all of you "critics" who criticized Sheamus for not making a first impression on his Raw debut; now you criticize how he came back and destroyed Noble. Sometimes you just can't please wrestling fans. Sadly, I was one also who picked on Sheamus' bad debut.
Um.. I think that's pretty much what everyone else said. Kane doesn't need to be, and I'm pretty sure isnt a complete jobber to the stars. He works great matches for somebody his size and age and gives up and comers the rub. There's a difference between that and what RVD said. I'm not disagreeing with you necessarily, but he wasn't talking about guys like Jamie Noble. You're missing the big picture with what Van Dam was saying. He was talking about how wrestling used to be, when every match on the card was someone with a name vs. someone who was a no name, except for the main event. Ie- RVD vs. Jim McDonald. Not jobbing out guys who have signed contracts for big time money.
Anywho, I can't say that I'll be missing Jamie from my TV every week necessarily, but I have a hell of a lot of respect for the man. Assuming this isn't an angle, Jamie is a former Cruiser Weight champ, and a damn fine athlete and in ring worker, and he had some pretty decent comedy angles over the years. Plus, he's a West Virginia boy. Where my entire family, except for me, is from.
Nicole13Edge/HardyFan
Future Diva, Womans and Divas champ
Excuse me lets get back to reality and get a girl's point of view. It is a STORYLINE for crying out loud. They are doing this to put over Sheamus just like ECW Dan Selby said. He is not I repeat NOT retiring. You'll see he'll be gone for a couple of weeks to sell it, then he'll come back.
wwefan2009
New Member
I'm sorry to see Jamie go. I don't think he was given enough credit for what he did do in the ring. What Sheamus did was uncalled for. I would love to see Sheamus get knocked around the ring by someone his own size. Put him in the ring with Jack Swagger, Randy Orton someone that would give him a run for his money so to speak. In other words someone that would bounce him off every part of the ring possible. 
RatedY2J93
Dark Match Winner
ahh thats to bad he was one of my favorite crusierweights but it was time for him to hang up the boots he wasn't going anywhere in his career but thats alright all the best to you jamie
It's sad, because he is a phenomenal talent in my opinion. He's got great charisma, skill, and for his gimmick, he's even got a great look. I've always been a fan of Noble, and wished the WWE Pitbulls would've stuck together, because that was a great tag team of two great wrestlers, and it could've gotten them both their just desserts if Kash hadn't done what Kid Kash does best and open his mouth to management. Here's hoping the "Jamie-San" sticks around and does something else. He'd be a wonderful GM for ECW (Much better than the one they have now) an awesome manager if they ever decided to...you know...DO something with Festus as a singles entity, and an interesting color analyst or backstage interviewer at the least. I just hope this isnt' the last we've seen of the Trailer Park Messiah.