It's time to bring back 3 Stages of Hell

Shocky

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Seriously, this is one of the best match types I have ever watched in the history of the WWE. The concept of this match is amazing, and it brings ultimate finality to a feud. The match is so long and so brutal, that you can't help but get sucked in. Plus the Gimmick changes per match are enough to keep you hooked.

It's been over five years since we've seen one of these matches. So here is a brief history on the concept. It's pretty simple really. The first match either starts off as something simple and basic, a straight up wrestling match, a street fight, submission match. A nice match that doesn't really too heavily on objects, but moreso on the wrestler. The second and third falls usually have a gimmick based around each wrestlers strong points.

The first of these matches was Steve Austin vs. Triple H. In my opinion, this match is the 2nd best match for both of these guys for their entire careers. It was a forty minute match that finally ended nearly a year and a half of feuds between the two. The first match was a normal match, where Triple H was supposed to break Austin's spirit, but Austin won that match. The second match was a street fight, where Triple H won, and the third match was inside of a steel cage, where Triple H won this match cleanly. This one match finally, in my opinion, made Triple H a legit main eventer. Sure, he had been in feuds before and champion, but in my opinion he was a paper champion in 2000. With Austin and the Undertaker out, he was a place holder, like the Rock. This match propelled Triple H to the next level.

The second of these matches was Kurt Angle vs. Chris Benoit. This was a great 25 minute match between these two (their second best match, their first best was the Rumble of 2003). The first match was again, a normal match with saw Benoit get a quick pinfall on Angle within the first few minutes. The second match was a Submission only match, playing off of the great Ultimate Submission Match they had the month before. The final fall was a ladder match to retrieve the stolen Gold Medals of Kurt Angle. A very damn good match.

And the last of these matches thus far, Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels in a 35 minute match. This match ended the 2002 feud of these two. This match was the match that showed Shawn Michaels could still take it to the next level. Sure, he had been in a gimmick match with the EC, all of ten minutes maybe. The first fall was a play off of the Summerslam match, a street fight, which saw Triple H win. The second match was inside of a Cage that saw Shawn Michaels win, again, a play off of the EC, but moreso to give Triple H an advantage with his history of Cell matches. And the third match was a ladder match, an obvious strong point for Shawn Michaels. Ultimately Triple H wins, and the 3 Stages of Hell goes by the wayside.

So why can't the WWE get this match back. Is it because they don't trust people on their roster to perform in these type of matches? You are asking guys to go out and tell a story in three different matches, while staying true to the original backstory of the feud they are in. Also, you're asking someone to go out there and give you at least 30 minutes if not 40 minutes of in ring time. I for one think it's a damn shame that the WWE doesn't bring this match type back.
 
I agree, it's been far too long since we've had on of these matches, all three of them that have taken place were great matches, and I remember when they dhad the 3 Stages as match type on the SVR games, I used to play that match type more then any other, I think this would have been a great way to end the Edge/Taker feud, they could have used the HIAC match as the final fall in the match, I also feel that guys like Cena, Orton, Triple H, HBK, Jericho, & possibly Umaga among others could all do well in this type of match, and make it work, I really hope we see this match again sometime soon cause it was really a great concept for a match with all the different options and ways you can go with it
 
3 Stages of Hell kicks ass in the worst way. Problem is, WWE dropped the ball with using the "unsanctioned match" for the Y2J vs. Jericho match at Unforgiven. 3 Stages of Hell would be a perfect finality match for the feud, but it might continue, so who knows? I don't see many other feuds that are on the level to require a 3SoH match right now.
 
So why can't the WWE get this match back. Is it because they don't trust people on their roster to perform in these type of matches? You are asking guys to go out and tell a story in three different matches, while staying true to the original backstory of the feud they are in. Also, you're asking someone to go out there and give you at least 30 minutes if not 40 minutes of in ring time. I for one think it's a damn shame that the WWE doesn't bring this match type back.

you hit the nail in there, Shockmaster.

Besides, the WWE panorama right now doesnt offer any feud or situation that could lead to this kind of match. Some of you would say jericho vs HBK in a heartbeat, but this is not where this feud is going. Sure, it would be one hell of a match, MOTY candidate perhaps, but I would like to see this feud ending sooner rather than later. More on this in other thread.
the thing is: 3SOH match is simply too much for any possible feud in sight, not to mention the superstars.
Who could have a chance to compete in this match in the future, judging by Physical endurance, storytelling, move set and draw power? my candidates are:

1-John Cena: Yes people. This guy is a fucking Machine and he could easily endure the match and beyond. His strength is proven beyond recognition and his draw power is huge.
Cons: move set. Well, unless one of the falls is a Submission match, i think the guy can defend himself for about 30 minutes (see: RAW 60 minutes match in London) so this is a 50/50 con

2-Edge: Do i need to go further? he can sell moves like no one, and put his body in the line, or beyond. If there anybody who can mix endurance, technical skills and draw power, that person is Edge.
Cons: the thing is: after countless gimmick matches, you need to refresh the character and the storytelling in the ring. So, if Edge would be a candidate for this match, his adversary should be someone who can play the underdog part, IMO. Edge played this role soo many times since last year, (vs Taker=underdog, vs batista=Underdog) that I want to see him to obliterate physical and mentally his opponent

3-Umaga: FUCK YEAH. this man is a fucking WIN, if used properly. Super Strong, agile, a savage wrestler who can make a great show.
Cons: Here's the deal with umaga in this kind of match. You need by default a guy the size of batista or similar to make this match credible. then, creative needs to be VERY careful on how to book the match: obviously, you cant put umaga in a submission match...so, a good combo would be something like: first fall - Falls count anywhere, Second Fall - street fight or better yet, first blood match to set the stage to the third fall - HIAC match. I'm not a booker whatsoever, but Umaga has the tools to give a great performance in this kind of match.
another con is the Star power, He is a great uppercard wrestler and I think thats it, so he would need a BIG, very BIG superstar in order to work well


Honorable mentions to Jericho, Triple H and perhaps MVP.
 
Right now would be a perfect time for WWE to bring back 3 Stages of Hell.With Jericho and HBK in a really good feud, they could have a 3 Stages of Hell match at Unforgiven.
I mean it would be the perfect match to end this great rivalry.These 2 been feuding for a few months, so 3 Stages of Hell, would be a perfect match to end their rivalry.
 
If Unforgiven isn't going to be the last match between Jericho and Michaels (but I think its safe to assume that it will be), then these two would definitely be able to pull it off. They have the talent to go that far and then some.

For Y2J/HBK, I think the best group of 3 matches would be:
1. Normal match
2. Submission match
3. Last Man Standing match

Logical transition of "you got a quick pin on me" to "you made me quit" to "you made me unable to even say that I quit".
 
I have been thinking of this for a long time now, just never posted a thread about it. I agree that the Austin/HHH and HHH/Michaels matches were some of the best in the careers and easily MOTY candidates.
I think this type of match could even be used in place of a HIAC sometimes to have some variety because it is just as devastating and does have a feeling of finality to it. I really like the setup of either having Regular Match/Street Fight/Cage or Regular/Cage/Last Man Standing. It really brings the cage to prominence and makes the regular cage seem like a good feud ender like it was in the days before HIAC. For that, I'd say a cage match should be one of the three falls by default and plan the other two around it. I also like the idea of Last Man Standing as the final fall. You have to figure by the time they get there it's been 25-30 minutes and the participants would undoubtedly be exhausted and bloody. What better way to win than really have a huge knock down drag out fight including inside cage, than to have them throw everything left at their opponent till someone can't stand. In my opinion this is one of the best match ideas there ever was in wrestling and we should be seeing one of these AT LEAST every 2-3 years when a really good and heated feud comes along.
I'd say if they continue with Edge/Taker some way, then this is the only way to go and the two would then have 4 MOTY candidates in just one year! Unheard of!
I also think Michaels/Jericho would be great this way because the feud is so personal and this seems like the end of things. The only way it gets to that would be for their Unforgiven match to go to No Contest after both take a huge bump or something. Then I'd say have Jericho appear even more evil and add fuel to the fire by bringing Rebecca back and having him slap her in the Walls. Then you could set this kind of thing up at No Mercy and finally end that one.

Aside from those two, I really don't see any rivalry any time soon that's gonna get a 3 Stages of Hell and there shouldn't be unless it's the right time. There really needs to be huge build and the animosity has to be great to end up in this type of match. So here's hoping that we a great feud and get what will be sure to be a classic and get two guys wayyyyyy over.
 
They could have Batista v Kane if they wanted to. The two have never really had a fued, just random one off matches. You could have a single fall, street fight, stretcher match if you wanted, but HIAC would never be the final stage. Cell matches have become long, drawn out torturous battles and it would just seem stupid to have that stipulation as the last 15 minutes of a 3 match format imo.
 
I've always liked these extended matches. How many tiems have you watched a match with an unclean ending and thought you wanted it to keep going because you hated the finish? This match is great in that there's always a second part to it. It's typically three matches for the price of one. The gimmicks being added to it always makes things more interesting as well. These matches are almost always to flat out end a feud or are for a title. If the right combination of guys can be found, then I'm certainly all for it coming back.
 
Funny thing, I was just thinking about 3 Stages of Hell myself some days ago... also thinking that HBK vs Jericho would be the perfect feud right now. They've been going at each other most of the year, Jericho did some major damage to HBK on various occasions (the eye, the beatdown at GAB, then the Rebecca incident) - so logically, HBK must be MAJORLY pissed off right now, and what better way to get retribution in not one, but three matches? And the proposed normal match, Submission match and of course Last Man Standing are the perfect choices. In any case, Last Man Standing has to be the match that decides Jericho vs HBK. HIAC has just been done by Taker and Edge, and no other match has this "ultimate" match character than LMS.

But as said - 3SoH would be a very very good alternative - and would be great semi-main event for Survivor Series (if the feud should continue after Unforgiven).
 
I'm kind of disappointed in you Shocky to be honest. 3 Stages Of Hell is pointless. You know there's something wrong when you have to offer up at least two gimmicks in one match. It's TNA before TNA started doing shit like that. Is the Cage match really that unimportant now that they have to have that match type as well as another? Or even the ladder match.

Why Austin & Triple H couldn't have a normal cage match I do not know. The concept is more just for the sake of it. If the names are big enough then the match should sell anyway. If it's the end of a feud one gimmick match should suffice.

Also out of the two I can think of one was great the other was crap. Almost the same odds as the Punjabi Prison.
 
I'm kind of disappointed in you Shocky to be honest. 3 Stages Of Hell is pointless. You know there's something wrong when you have to offer up at least two gimmicks in one match. It's TNA before TNA started doing shit like that. Is the Cage match really that unimportant now that they have to have that match type as well as another? Or even the ladder match.

Why Austin & Triple H couldn't have a normal cage match I do not know. The concept is more just for the sake of it. If the names are big enough then the match should sell anyway. If it's the end of a feud one gimmick match should suffice.

Also out of the two I can think of one was great the other was crap. Almost the same odds as the Punjabi Prison.

I agree Jake. Forget 3 gimmicks in one and just bring back other gimmicks that we've seen none of in ages. I want an Iron Man match dammit! Or an I Quit match (i know they had one at ONS but pah-leez let's just call that what it actually was, a Submission match)

Or at least a 2/3 Falls match. That's how i'd book Taker's last WM match personally. Taker would win the match, but he'd still have to concede a fall, giving the other guy an accolade that no one else would ever achieve, by being the only man in history to gain a fall over the Undertaker at WM.
 
Perhaps Jericho and HBK can finsih their feud off this way? - Personally I always enjoyed 3 stages of hell matches. I don't see them as a waste of other gimmick matches or a way to devalue them. It is a good way of finishing off a huge feud with two top talents - example: Austin and HHH. Also, not only is it brutal and keeps you on the edge of your seat but each wrestler can bring their gimmick match to the equation. If it was Undertaker vs Edge for example the 1st fall could be normal, the second a ladder match (Edge's gimmick match) and if it got to the 3rd fall then a buried alive match (Taker's gimmick)

I say bring it back soon just to be used once more to remind fans that it can still be a good WWE match.
 
As much as I like the extreme matches, I have to agree that an Ironman match would be way more interesting than 3 stages. Bret vs HBK set the stage for something that WWF/e never really followed up on. Over the years there have been many superstars that could've pulled off Ironman matches. In my opinion, both of the Hardyz could make this match work, Edge most definitely, Jericho, hell even Punk could sell it. I just don't see this match coming back though because all your Batistas and Cenas couldn't sell an hour long match if their lives depended on it. Ironman matches, at least in my eyes, only work with the toughest guys/characters on the roster. Not the biggest or strongest. And at the moment, it really seems that the tough guys are being buried by the strong ones. Can we please get some entertainment, Vince? Please?
 
As much as I like the extreme matches, I have to agree that an Ironman match would be way more interesting than 3 stages. Bret vs HBK set the stage for something that WWF/e never really followed up on. Over the years there have been many superstars that could've pulled off Ironman matches. In my opinion, both of the Hardyz could make this match work, Edge most definitely, Jericho, hell even Punk could sell it. I just don't see this match coming back though because all your Batistas and Cenas couldn't sell an hour long match if their lives depended on it. Ironman matches, at least in my eyes, only work with the toughest guys/characters on the roster. Not the biggest or strongest. And at the moment, it really seems that the tough guys are being buried by the strong ones. Can we please get some entertainment, Vince? Please?

Frist of all, Cena has gone an hour, remember his Raw match with HBK shortly after their WM match, the one that took place in London, yeah that match was an hour long, so Cena is more than capable of carrying a match for that long, I think the reason WWE shy's away from doing hour long Iron man matches is A.) they don't think they could hold the fans interest for 60 mins. with just one match, and B.) if one of the wrestlers were to get hurt in the match and there was still alot of time left on the clock WWE would be screwed, for example lets say you book a match to have a 60 min time limit and then lets say at about the 25min. mark one of your guys gets hurt and is unable to continue, what the fuck do you do then? you still got 35 mins left that you set aside soley for this match, and most likely it's going to be your ME so it's not like you can just stall, and tell the participants in the next match to draw there match out a little longer, you're just simply fucked
 
The logic i see in 3SoH is that it would make the wrestlers as tired as an iron man match would, plus whatever gimick matches are thrown in would make it that much more tiring. Therefore its a great way to end a feud, like the did with trips and austin. and i think it would work well with hbk and y2j now.
 
Three Stages of Hell is too gimmicky. I agree with those thinking they need to simply bring back other types of matches they haven't done in a while. Personally, I see the Championship Scramble match rules, and I can't for the life of me figure out why they are only booked for 20 minutes each. This type of match is PERFECT for an Iron Man 60 minute kind of match. With five wrestlers, each can get in plenty of rest time, while maintaining a constant level of action in the ring. Iron Man matches can get dull at times, because the wrestlers need to find ways to rest during it...so we get a lot of sleeper holds, headlocks, etc, stuff that really drags on. With five wrestlers, you wouldn't have this problem. You couldn't do 3 of the same match on the same PPV obviously if it were more of an Iron Man kind of thing, but I think adding the 60 minute time limit would make for a far better match than we can get for 20 minutes.

We also don't have enough "falls count anywhere" matches, where the action goes backstage, outside, etc. I am sick of the brief skirmishes backstage, I want to see matches that actually take the time to go backstage, go through a locker room or two, go outside, go back inside, break open the door to the women's locker room, go through a concession stand or two, back into the crowd, and finally back into the ring. Or not. Maybe the pinfall happens in a bar across the street from the arena...that would be cool.

Two out of three falls are good, as long as you don't always have them go to the third fall. If you always go to a third fall, the winner of the second fall is predictable.
 
I agree 3 soh matches were entertaining but only every now and then maybe 1 a year tops. I'm starting to get bored of ppv events with just 1 on 1 matches and every fued ending in a hell in a cell match, I was really excited about edge/taker after the build up with foley showing clips of mankind vs taker hiac but when it came to the match it just reminded me that we will never see a match as great as mankind/taker hiac again and thats depressing even though it was by all means a good match.
 
couldnt agree more my friend. they were amazing. its a GREAT way to culminate a feud for the title and seriously it is probly my 2nd favorite match type ever. the triple h vs shawn michals match blew my mind i loved it. so yes i agree in saying bring it back it would deffinently help ratings and make a hell of a match
 
why not bring this match type back i think it should happen at least twice a year once at armagedeon and once at summerslam or royal rumble. these matches make a feud look like one of the best of all time hell look at austin vs hhh or hhh vs hbk those were two of the greatest sets of matches of all time. now dont get me wrong you must have the right two superstars in the match. the 3 match types matter to as they have to play to the superstars strenghs but these would make match of the years ever year if done right.
now i do think wwe will have one at survivor series with y2j and hbk they are hinting towards one i think. maybe will go down as best of all time for 3 stages as well as feud and match.

ps lets try tag teams in ths enviroment when division is rebuilt this could be great a tlc for one a reg tag match and a steel cage or hardcore.
 

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