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Is the Raw booking just plain ridiculous? And what you have done different?

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Last night's main event featured CM punk vs Wade barrett for the right for their team to be in the rumble. Now that the rumble has 40 men, it was way too obvious that both groups were going to make it in based on the lack of roster for the rumble. So the double DQ and the brawl at the end was way too obvious and just plain ridiculous. There are way too many examples. The build up to the rumble is horrible. In the past there would be matches for the last entrant. There would be faces or heels that would end up being #1 based on their feud with GM/president/owner. What was the point of Miz vs Edge it know way helps the build up for the match at rumble because we all knew that ziggler and orton would be involved. Its not just this past raw its been every raw since miz became champ way too predictable and basicly horrible. Im leaving it to you guys to vent along with me and give some of your creative ideas.
 
I actually liked the main events on raw last night.

Miz/Edge - I always like when they use a match between champions to build towards both PPV matches. Plus, this set up Smackdown's main event match in Miz/Ziggler vs. Rated RKO. I am interested to see how The Miz and Dolph Ziggler are as a tag team.

Barrett/Punk - This was a fitting match/segment to end the night with. Two "leaders" (yes, Corre doesn't have a leader, but I consider Barrett the de facto leader of the group) vying to keep their group/themselves in the Rumble. The abuse of power with John Cena added humor to the match, but also detracted from what could have been a really good match between the two. It did serve to make me now want to see the eventual match between Barrett and Punk somewhere down the road.

So, in answer, this raw was good in spots and I probably would have changed more of how some of the lower card matches played out.
 
I too feel the ending to Raw was very uninteresting. I feel Both on Raw and Smackdown they could have had a 10 Man Battle Royal. But to make it more interesting have somebody such as Cody Rhodes, Jack Swagger come in on Raw and win it. I feel Jack Swagger and Cody have nothing better to do on SD so why not make them relevant and put them on Raw and win the battle royal.

For the Nexus Vs Corre. i liked the fact Cena was ref but i didnt like how it went down. I feel 1st Nexus come out and attack Barrett and Cena while ensuring Mason Ryan is booked properly and make him destroy Cena. Then Corre come and even it out. And after the 2 stables fight have John Morrison and RAW superstars (everyone apart from Sheamus) come out and clean house. Then I felt Cena and Morrison could both be the last superstars in the ring and Cena celebrates with crown and John Morrison superkicks him out of the ring.

This way you Book Nexus, Corre and John Morrison properly. John Morrison deserves a push and frankly if the crowd are wrestling fans they'll raw when Cena gets superkicked. Call me crazy nut I feel that would have been a good ending.
 
They ended it perfectly. No 0ne lost out of the RR. Tons of superstars came out to fight at the end, and no one looked weak or strong, saying anyone can win the RR. good finish that made sense.
 
To be honest since The Corre are 4 and New Nexus are 5 I thought New Nexus would win and The Corre would have face New Nexus in an elimination tag team match while Punk would have been in the Rumble.

Then with the double DQ I thought to myself, well Punk will cost Cena the Rumble and they will feud.

So to me it was bad booking, but not THAT predictable.

What I would have donne differently, I don't know for sure, but I am SO tired of the Cena show. I know kids love him and some adults and teens love him too but everytime he is coming on top like he always do on play the smart ass like yesterday I just can't stand him.

Not saying I want him heel and all, I just want to see him get his ass handed to him sometime and stop trying (notice the word trying) to be the funny John Cena, because honestly that's the only thing that REALLY turn me off on WWE programming.
 
I agree. The WWE doesn't have any real wrestling anymore so it's not like I was expecting a great match. But the main event did nothing but give Cena some more face time for the fucking kiddies. If I were booking it I would have had Cena do the same thing he did but when the GM chimed in I would have had him say that since Cena was a smartass, the match is now going to be a triple threat match on Smackdown. The winner gets the number 40 spot and whoever gets pinned gets number 1. Also, the mystery GM would make himself the special referee for the match. This would:
A. Add a little something to the big feud going into the RR match
B. Reveal the mystery GM for the road to WM
C. Actually pull some more viewers to Smackdown right before the PPV
But instead we get no wrestling, no story enhancement, and a pointless 1 minute brawl to close the show.
BTW if Cena wins the Rumble I'm giving up on wrestling for the forseeable future. I love Miz as champ but pretty much everything else is just pissing me off lately.
 
I agree. The WWE doesn't have any real wrestling anymore so it's not like I was expecting a great match. But the main event did nothing but give Cena some more face time for the fucking kiddies. If I were booking it I would have had Cena do the same thing he did but when the GM chimed in I would have had him say that since Cena was a smartass, the match is now going to be a triple threat match on Smackdown. The winner gets the number 40 spot and whoever gets pinned gets number 1. Also, the mystery GM would make himself the special referee for the match. This would:
A. Add a little something to the big feud going into the RR match
B. Reveal the mystery GM for the road to WM
C. Actually pull some more viewers to Smackdown right before the PPV
But instead we get no wrestling, no story enhancement, and a pointless 1 minute brawl to close the show.
BTW if Cena wins the Rumble I'm giving up on wrestling for the forseeable future. I love Miz as champ but pretty much everything else is just pissing me off lately.

I really, really like your idea and I couldn't agree more with what you've said. The only problem I can see is that the WWE don't even have a GM yet for Raw, but I too think it's about time he reveal him or herself.
 
I hate to admit it, but Raw did suck, and "the build up to the rumble is horrible". From beginning to end Raw sucked: Edge's promo was corny, followed by Punk being less than his normal charismatic self, and so one. The best thing about Raw last night was seeing the Bellas in those outfits. Speaking of the Bellas, I would like to see Daniel Bryan tied up in some heated feud and not some stupid love triangle. I realize wrestling has always, or in recent times, used the male-female-relationship angle, but at least there were two guys feuding over a chick. Dammit, WWE, use Bryan better!:banghead:

This PG shit has got to stop! They're playing on the niavity of kids by doing shit like having that big brawl at the end of the show. They do that shit every, single year. Cut it out! Last night, all of the superstars were happy-go-lucky. Where's the anger, the I-hate-your-guts feuds, the intensity? And what about this anonymous GM crap? I'm so sick him repremanding grown ass men to the point I don't know what to do.:banghead:

Now, don't get me started on Cole and the King. All of the bickering is annoying. It was 80% bickering and 20% calling the match when it should have been vice versa. (Still, I don't blame the King; he and J.R. were the shit.) Still, just call the damn match, using witty comments and professional analysis. A little bickering is fine when justified. OMG! Ziggler and Vicky sucked! I was very dissappointed in Dolph; stammering and stuttering and babbling. Come on, man; I figured you'd be the next Flair.
 
I hate to admit it, but Raw did suck, and "the build up to the rumble is horrible". From beginning to end Raw sucked: Edge's promo was corny, followed by Punk being less than his normal charismatic self, and so one. The best thing about Raw last night was seeing the Bellas in those outfits. Speaking of the Bellas, I would like to see Daniel Bryan tied up in some heated feud and not some stupid love triangle. I realize wrestling has always, or in recent times, used the male-female-relationship angle, but at least there were two guys feuding over a chick. Dammit, WWE, use Bryan better!:banghead:

This PG shit has got to stop! They're playing on the niavity of kids by doing shit like having that big brawl at the end of the show. They do that shit every, single year. Cut it out! Last night, all of the superstars were happy-go-lucky. Where's the anger, the I-hate-your-guts feuds, the intensity? And what about this anonymous GM crap? I'm so sick him repremanding grown ass men to the point I don't know what to do.:banghead:

Now, don't get me started on Cole and the King. All of the bickering is annoying. It was 80% bickering and 20% calling the match when it should have been vice versa. (Still, I don't blame the King; he and J.R. were the shit.) Still, just call the damn match, using witty comments and professional analysis. A little bickering is fine when justified. OMG! Ziggler and Vicky sucked! I was very dissappointed in Dolph; stammering and stuttering and babbling. Come on, man; I figured you'd be the next Flair.

Why do people constantly bitch about PG? If it ain't you, it's 100 other people complaining. In the past few weeks we've seen Punk beat the shit out of people with a cane or stick (whatever the hell it was) and threats of jumping off the Titantron. That certainly isn't "PG", is it?

They do the brawl every single year before the Royal Rumble to hype it up. What's wrong with that? Alberto and R-Truth have been fighting constantly for the past month which leads to believe they will have another confrontation during the Rumble match. Raw was good for what it was- a go home show that didn't need to do much.
 
i think it was all a good raw except the main event. My idea would only work if HHH is returning at the Rumble. I would have Nexus and Corre beat down Cena before the match, then have some of the locker room empty to 'defend' Cena. Theres so much action going on no one can tell who's doing what, then Shaemus comes out and throws a couple of people over the top rope (maybe Mark Henry and a member of Nexus and Corre) making him look strong. Then the lights go out "Behold the King, the King of Kings", and have HHH standing on the entrance ramp with a sledge hammer. The action in the ring stops and Shaemus flees through the crowd.

The rest of Raw was pretty predictable though, and the best think that could have happened was actually having the tag match for the title's giving them to Nexus.
 
Why do people constantly bitch about PG? If it ain't you, it's 100 other people complaining. In the past few weeks we've seen Punk beat the shit out of people with a cane or stick (whatever the hell it was) and threats of jumping off the Titantron. That certainly isn't "PG", is it?

They do the brawl every single year before the Royal Rumble to hype it up. What's wrong with that? Alberto and R-Truth have been fighting constantly for the past month which leads to believe they will have another confrontation during the Rumble match. Raw was good for what it was- a go home show that didn't need to do much.

Your speaking on one episode of Raw. Those events with nexus happened on the same Raw show. Change things up, who wants to see the same "fill the ring" crap every year so i agree with the other guy. And why didn't Raw need to do much with less than 2 weeks to go before a badly promoted Royal Rumble. The PPV buys will certainly say differently.
 
Well the ending certainly didnt make any sense for the following reasons:

1. Barrett comes out and says the focus of The Corre is to make sure Punk doesn't win the Rumble
2. Barrett backstage says he focused too much on Cena and wouldn't do that again, saying he respects Cena and hopefully one day he'll respect him
3. When The Corre and Nexus are in the ring, rather than attack each other they go after Cena.... undermining everything Barrett had said on Raw.

Nevermind the whole either The Corre or Nexus won't be in the Rumble despite everybody knowing that would be case... leading to one of the most predictable endings ever.

Also the fact Edge v Miz, the two World Champions fought each other in the middle of the show! That should have been kept for the end. Ending of that match was fine and would have been ideal leading into Smackdown which could finish that part off to lead into the Rumble.

The booking is just terrible at the moment, Nexus is virtually the SES and The Corre is basically The Nexus, a group with no direction or purpose.
 
ALL I GOT TO SAY IS THAT IF JOHN CENA WINS THE ROYAL RUMBLE AND GOES TO WIN THE TITLE AT WRESTLEMANIA THEN I AM DONE WITH WRESTLING ALL TOGETHER! TIRED OF THE SAME SHIT HAPPENING FOR YEARS!..... MORRISON SHOULD WIN THE RUMBLE AND FACE MIZ FOR THE TITLE AND MAKE IT A LADDER MATCH!
 
i was ok with the ending.... i mean they have a massive battle before the rumble.. its like mandatory every year haha... but i would have liked it to play out in live tv not just fade out when it started...

the main event thou would have been awesome if it would have been a 5v5 tag with new nexus vs the corre & john cena. if booked right it would have made the corre all babyfaces... i mean jackson and gabriel already look like faces kind of, slater doesnt do anything anyway so it wouldn't matter and wade could use that getting kicked out of nexus thing as him looking for redemption and the new nexus is more hated than the corre so it could have worked specially if wade apologized to cena and they tagged for the main event... it would heve been perfect and it would help jackson and gabriel get over which are the guys in the corre that seem to have potencial to be a big deal in the future (other than wade but hes a main eventer already)..... you can criticize me if you want its but it could work if booked correctly!! and it be a good faction vs faction feud! that involves both shows! and if cena helped the corre would have cena on both shows bringing higher ratings to smackdown... a win any way you look a it!! (once again if booked right!)
 
It was the obligitory week before Rumble finish. Almost every year the Raw before Rumble ends with a huge brawl of some kind setting up for the Rumble.

I think people expected more to happen. The Corre vs Nexus angle will be going on for a while, you can't have a legit match between the two leaders 2 weeks after the Corre formed. I expect maybe Wade and Punk eliminate each other in the rumble, or they are the first two entrants.

I actually thought they were going to have both teams beat the crap out of Cena and make a "super" Nexus but thats basically what TNA is doing with Fourtune and Immortal and that would just be really lazy booking.

Lazy booking....sorta...Unoriginal but a solid way to set up for the rumble.
 
I was ok with the whole show. I think we just need to accept the fact that while Cena is there, he will always be in the main event. I, myself, agree they need to put others in the main event picture. meh.

what I found hilarious was the fact that the Big Show's theme hits, and he's leading the charge of the WWE Superstars...I mean, did he go round up the troops? Might've been better is they started coming out little by little, some shots of the locker rooms emptying out.

Cursing and blood every week or this "Get rid of PG" crap isn't gonna make it more interesting if the storylines suck. Creative needs a swift kick in the @$$ and really be creative. The Nexus "invasion" last year was awesome, with no blood and no flicks of the finger here and there. Do you think if the $h!ttiest storyline right now would be better if it had blood and curse words? NO! WWE needs to make better storylines and not just the main one, but storylines that intrigue us and keep us wondering what's gonna happen next week or "this sunday at the PPV"...start showing us that these wrestlers are working their way up to the heavyweight titles, make it about the titles, not personal $h!t with the words "title match" in there.
 
I liked last night's RAW main event. I felt that the ending was so..."vintage". I would like to see more tag match main events like in 2008 and 2009 the week before ppv's there was always a tag team main event that featured the two biggest rivalries in the brand.
 
Hey Guys, first time poster here. This topic made me sign up for the site. I love reading all the debates.

Anyway - I don't know why last night's RAW was a surprise to anyone. This is how the WWE ALWAYS books their show the week before a PPV. I bet you can go back to any RAW the week before the Rumble, and it probably ended similarly to last night's show.

Personally, I always think the RAW before ANY PPV is the weakest, since you know there won't be any new developments, and the day after is the strongest.
 
How about give guys like Morrison, Sheamus and the other upper card guys some mic time. How are we supposed to believe that these guys have a chance to win when they are barely showcased? I'm sorry, but i do not care for a Cena or Punk win at the RR.
 
You know you guys that sit there and say Oh If Cena wins the Royal Rumble and wins the Title at Wrestlemania im going to stop watching all together really make me SICK. Its easy for you morons to sit there and say Oh I could have booked this better or I could have booked that better. Thats why Vince doesn't cater to you idiots because you don't know what you want and all u do is bitch & moan about every little thing.

As for the end of RAW last night,I was fine with it and I got a kick out John Cena messing with Punk & Barrett. Nexus & Corre are apparently scheduled to have a lengthy feud so why give away a Punk/Barrett Match this soon?
 
Don't make me put you all in your place about PG. There have been tons of great moments since the beginning of the PG era, and if you have been to busy bitching to realize it then that's your fault.

It's also your fault that you expect the WWE to try to surprise you every opportunity they get. Guess what, that's never... EVER going to happen. It was obvious that both Nexus and Corre were going to be in the Rumble as it's a major feud that will be exciting to look into in the Rumble. Would you have preferred a surprise what one team didn't get to go into the Rumble? No, because then you'd be missing out on something great.

Furthermore, of course they ended the show with the mini-Rumble. What better way to hype up the Royal Rumble than to show half of the Royal Rumble? There is none. I for one loved the ending, anytime you see the entire roster out in the ring it's always exciting and it definitely got me amped up for Sunday.

So in conclusion, you should just really reevaluate what you watch wrestling for. If you'd prefer bizarre twists that make no sense and wind up hurting the actual wrestling, then maybe you should switch to TNA.
 
Last night's main event featured CM punk vs Wade barrett for the right for their team to be in the rumble. Now that the rumble has 40 men, it was way too obvious that both groups were going to make it in based on the lack of roster for the rumble. So the double DQ and the brawl at the end was way too obvious and just plain ridiculous. There are way too many examples. The build up to the rumble is horrible. In the past there would be matches for the last entrant. There would be faces or heels that would end up being #1 based on their feud with GM/president/owner. What was the point of Miz vs Edge it know way helps the build up for the match at rumble because we all knew that ziggler and orton would be involved. Its not just this past raw its been every raw since miz became champ way too predictable and basicly horrible. Im leaving it to you guys to vent along with me and give some of your creative ideas.

I would say the point of the Edge/Miz match was because they are both the champions of their respective shows. Not to mention it was a stellar match and would love to see a rematch at one of the big ppv's.

I really wasn't a fan of the main event but I could see Vince's reasoning. It was between two heels and the kids probably wouldn't have given two shits about it either way even though the older fans would have appreciated if they would have went through with the match. I wish the match would have taken place for at least 5-10 minutes and then Cena screwing them both at the end. It would have made both sides happy and the whole angle at the end could have taken place. I wasn't that thrilled with the match that didn't take place but I could see the reasoning behind it.
 
Havent posted anything here in a while but I have to say this. I watched Raw and it sucked ass. Its was shitty and terrible. Wrestling in general is dieing. Its dieing a slow and painful death because of a lot things like the pg era(I am not a fan of it and nor do I support, To me wrestling isnt pg. Also PG was way different back then like in the early 2000s and early 80s and 90s and maybe earlier. Pg was different back then than it is now, but thats for another topic) and among other things. Miz has to be one of the worst champions i have seen in a while, worse than sheamus. I have no idea what vinces sees in him, he must have a taste for shitty talent. Miz is not championship material, he is like jeff jarret in a way. They dont deserve the push. In my opinion WWE has no idea whats its doing. The royal rumble is days away, they had not had no build towards. 4 matches annouced, garbage. Royal rumble match wit 40 people, that is the dumbest idea I heard, Really WWE. I honestly dont watch wrestling no more, I just see clips or once in a while. But i am ashame to be a wrestling fan now. B.c wrestling has died for me. Only good wrestling show is probably ROH and thats it. In general WWE sucks. I hate how Miz fan boys or iwc support him as champion. he has no talent, garbage on the mic and no charsima. People say he is like jericho and the rock. Get that shit outta here. Dont compare miz to the rock or jericho. Miz is a paper champion and a mediorce wrestler. He makes me sick as champion, worse than White chocalate(sheamus).
 
it wasnt that bad they could have made a battle royal that involes like half the rostetr to begin or maybe like a nexus vs core showdown and what happened to edge after nexus came out but all in all its still better than tna there booking sucks
 
You know you guys that sit there and say Oh If Cena wins the Royal Rumble and wins the Title at Wrestlemania im going to stop watching all together really make me SICK. Its easy for you morons to sit there and say Oh I could have booked this better or I could have booked that better. Thats why Vince doesn't cater to you idiots because you don't know what you want and all u do is bitch & moan about every little thing.

As for the end of RAW last night,I was fine with it and I got a kick out John Cena messing with Punk & Barrett. Nexus & Corre are apparently scheduled to have a lengthy feud so why give away a Punk/Barrett Match this soon?

I will stop watching because I want to see something new for once. Cena has won the Rumble before, let someone who needs a big win get this one. And I'm sure you know exactly what Vince is thinking and why he does what he does. That's why he doesn't cater to us "morons." Stop acting like you know what you're talking about.

And obviously neither the Nexus or Corre was going to be held out of the Rumble. Even you probably guessed that. But why have that be the main event, then have nothing happen but an apology and 30 sec brawl when you had YOUR TWO CHAMPIONS FACING OFF IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SHOW. So yes if this kind of dumb shit keeps happening I will stop watching...and hopefully more people get the picture too so WWE has to change something. I could give two shits about it being PG, but let the wrestlers wrestle and have some coherent booking.
 

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