Is Austin Aries TNA's Daniel Bryan?

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There's no doubt that austin aries is one of the best wrestler's of today,
he to has a roh background such as guys like styles, punk, bryan and even daniels. Austin aries is a great talker, he really sells. he could easily be tna's top star if they would let him, he has alot of talent even tna haters have to admit that. aries has the same charisma in the ring as d bryan on some occsions. and he defiently gets the crowd stired up so is aries the daniel bryan of tna? Is double a that over to refer to him as d bryan v.2?
 
Well Daniel Bryan has only now reached true main eventer status right? Aries was world champ last year. Him dethroning Roode was one of my favourite moments not just in TNA but in all of wrestling! And he was on fire. He actually had to tell the crowd to be quiet while he was doing a promo on the Impact after his win. He was THAT over! And he was great as the top guy. There were two problems though when he won the world title:

First was that since he won the title via Option C, the BFG Series was ongoing so he had nobody to defend his title against. He had a rematch with Roode but spent the rest of his reign fighting with random Aces & Eights members.

Second was a completely unnecessary heel turn against Jeff Hardy. Now some would say that Aries' is best when he's heel and that's probably true but under the circumstances it was so poorly done. Everyone was behind Aries and with them seemingly trying to recreate the Punk pipe bomb it just didn't work. And sadly Aries lost the belt to Hardy which IMO was a mistake as Hardy's reign was very lackluster (Though had a great ladder rematch with Aries at Turning Point).

So as far as I'm concerned they really did mess up with Aries. But I've no doubt in my mind he will be a world champion again, probably sometime next year.
 
Aries is one of my favourites of the last 10 years, his RoH career is legendary as we all know and his ring work is just brilliant to watch. Hell Aries has amazing matches.

But comparing him to Daniel Bryan isn't gonna work. Yes, they both are Indy guys and work very well. Yes, they've broken through to that top talent level and become world champions. But can you say that Aries is as over in TNA as Bryan is in WWE? No.

It's TNA's fault, they don't know who they want at the top, they've tried storm, Roode, hardy, Aries, Bully Ray. Try don't have "the guy" and that permanent main event level. Aries in TNA will bounce around between upper mid card and the occasional main event because they don't know who they want, there's no direction.

TNA loves to throw people together into groups, and have them fight. Which isn't a knock on TNA, it can work. They just don't seem to have any fresh ideas.

Whereas Bryan has literally kept evolving, kept fresh and kept relevant. From the moment he stepped into WWE, they've given him opportunities to get over, and by god is he over.NXT, to nexus, US champ, MitB, the world championship, then team hell no and finally to his current form. He's fresh and exciting and has the crowd so firmly behind him.

Aries, even though he's just as good seems as if he isn't really going anywhere and he's floating about on the card. That's why he can't be TNA's Daniel Bryan.
 
If I would compare Aries to someone in WWE, it'd be CM Punk rather than Daniel Bryan. Both Aries & Punk have this really cocky sort of personas whether as a babyface, a heel or a tweener. To me, they give off the image of someone two guys who love to get confrontational and to bait people all while putting over how good they are at what they do.

If you want to compare them based on a push, it's difficult to do that in some ways. As of right now, Bryan is still very, very early in his current WWE Championship program. As a result, a lot can happen between now and when it's all said & done. It could turn out to be epically great or an abysmal failure.

If I were to compare Bryan's run as WHC with Aries' run as TNA WHC, it's still not quite clear cut. The WHC is clearly not on the same level as the WWE Championship. Bryan used his time as WHC to become one of the most over heels on the WWE roster. His run wasn't particularly dominant, but he did win his matches and win matches against opponents that outweigh him by around 200 pounds. Still, it was obvious that Bryan wasn't on the level of Punk or Cena at the time. As for Aries, his title win was something of a surprise and he had some great matches against Bobby Roode before dropping the title to Jeff Hardy at BFG. While Bryan wasn't the top guy in WWE, Aries, despite being TNA WHC, never really came off as the top guy in TNA. More of TNA's attention was focused on Aces & Eights and the return of Jeff Hardy at the time. As a result, unfortunately, Aries really was sort of shoved aside. Even though he had the top title, he wasn't booked as the top guy, Jeff Hardy was.

If I had to pick which had the better run, I'd have to base it on where each man is right now. In that sense, I have to go with Daniel Bryan. He's continued to gain momentum throughout his career since cashing in MITB in late 2011 while Aries career has stalled somewhat since this time last year. After getting out of the TNA WHC picture, he spent much of the first half of this year as a tag team wrestler with Bobby Roode where they spent the next several months feuding with Bad Influence and Chavo & Hernandez. Even in the BFG Series right now, he hasn't been booked as being that big of a deal. Aries has the talent, that's obvious, TNA just hasn't pushed him as one of the top guys. It's not his fault as he just does what he's supposed to and does the best with what he's given, but it ultimately is what it is.

As to whether he's over enough to be comparable to Daniel Bryan, there's really no genuine way to gauge that. Like Bryan, Aries gets a lot of love from fans whether it's at house shows, on television or at ppvs. However, WWE crowds are generally, substantially bigger than TNA crowds. At Lockdown this year, TNA drew 6,700 fans, the biggest domestic audience in TNA history. It's a lot of people and a good sized crowd but it's not at all uncommon for WWE house shows to draw that many or significantly more than that. A crowd of 6,700 is, for all intents & purposes, another day at the office for WWE.

Also, as I alluded to earlier, Bryan is still very early in his current program. He could crash & burn or he could flourish.
 
i dont see it, Aries has nowhere near the charisma of Daniel Bryan, the comparisons are in ring ability and they are both Indy born and bred stars thats it for me, Aries just seems to stuck up and is not really engaging when he speaks.
 
i dont see it, Aries has nowhere near the charisma of Daniel Bryan, the comparisons are in ring ability and they are both Indy born and bred stars thats it for me, Aries just seems to stuck up and is not really engaging when he speaks.

If anything Aries has much more charisma.

Bryan has come a way in terms of speaking and just the way he carries himself in general (not that there was ever anything wrong with how he did in the past, but he had to become WWEized) still ultimately he lives off people chanting YES or NO and sticking his hands in the air. Speaking strictly on ability outside of the ring, Aries has Bryan covered and it's not all that close.
 
Charisma and promo skills aren't really the same thing and if you see Bryan's recent promos you can see he's learning how to pace what he says, how to emphasize the right words and how to bring the crowd into the promo beyond saying YES! Just like in his matches Bryan has a way that brings the crowd into everything he does, almost all his offense gets a response from the build up to the third drop kick, to the way the crowd anticipate the head kick to the pop when he kips up off the top rope drop kick, that is charisma.

Now that is not me slighting Aries, I think he has a lot of charisma as well and is certainly the more natural talker, he's amazing in the ring and is the kind of babyface the modern audience wants, the TNA fans never wanted the heel turn but his push was cut short in order to facilitate Hardy.

However I'd say Jack-Hammer is on the money with the CM Punk comparison, both Punk and Aries have a chip on their shoulder, where as Bryan is quite an affable type of guy who is more the plucky underdog with fighting spirit. Punk and Aries are angry rebels who do pseudo shoot promos like the one this week where Aries took a dig at Hogan and Dixie. In a pre-attitude era Aries and Punk would be heels but the majority of the fans boo them as heels so these days it's a waste of time trying to force fans to boo them. Whatever era you stuck Bryan in he would excel as a face rather than as a heel.
 
i dont see it, Aries has nowhere near the charisma of Daniel Bryan, the comparisons are in ring ability and they are both Indy born and bred stars thats it for me, Aries just seems to stuck up and is not really engaging when he speaks.

Along with everyone else I find this statement ludicrous. Put simply, behind Punk, Cena (yes, get over it Cena is one of the best promo guys in the business), bully ray and maybe mark Henry (watch that retirement promo again) - Aries has the best promo in the industry IMO.

When he revealed himself as suicide, even though I had read it was coming I re watched that promo, because it was a great reveal and he managed to catch your attention. He is brash and arrogant, and can play a crowd like a pro.
 
ok, first things first. when it comes to promo skills and charisma, Austin Aries has as much as that if not more than Bryan. Bryan though comes off as a submission specialist who can reverse practically any move, so he's a little bit more entertaining to watch in the ring, not that Aries isnt because he is. Aries in my book is one of, if not, the best in ring performer TNA has. i can watch every match he has, as for comparing him to Bryan, i cant see that as Bryan is more hot than Aries is currently and Bryan is coming off as more of the underdog type of wrestler who is having to fight not just his shortcomings (like size), but also is fighting the company and the company man. as for Aries, he's more like Punk. he's not handed or given things and he will fight and fight hard to get those things. i hope in the very near future he wins the TNA world title and is given a more proper reign where he's pushed as a top face.
 
Aries personally in my opinion if he can be compared to anyone it is definitely not Bryan, Aries is more like CM Punk in the sense that the both of them have similar personalities and not to mention both of them think that they are the best in the world and both Punk and Aries prove it every single night but with Aries I feel like if anything if anyone should deserve a long title reign as champion in TNA then it should be Aries who should surpass Bobby Roode's title reign becoming the longest-reigning TNA World Champion in history having a CM Punk-like title reign but in TNA and with Aries I feel he is much better suited as a heel anyway even though he ends up getting cheered even as a heel but as a babyface he is like how Punk is when Punk is a babyface
 
Good question, I too have kind of crossed them in my head as similar.

Obviously their wrestling styles, both of them do the suicide dive and the best running dropkicks in their companies. I'm thinking they've worked together in ROH so they've essentially learned and trained off each other much like Punk, Styles, Joe, Daniels. That's why they are all so good, because they've wrestled each other and kind of developed the style together. Hell, they pretty much brought their style to mainstream wrestling in the United States.

Now I'm not sure how your comparing them. In terms of wrestling ability, oh yeah, they are two of the more closely related styles. In terms of public reception, yeah, Austin Aries isn't nearly as over as Daniel Bryan. I don't really think it's possible to get any more over than Daniel Bryan... you have nearly every fan chanting "Yes!" in the arena... what more can you do besides get a bigger arena with more people. Aries isn't given the same exposure as Bryan.

However, ever since Aries won the X-Divison Title as Suicide for a short time, I feel like they've kind of got behind him again. He's had some really good matches during the Bound for Glory Series that have been given quality time. And you can see him actually getting more popular each week I believe. If they consistently give Aries a match on TV with enough time to shine, he will do just that, shine. Casual viewers or old time wrestling fans in their right mind should stop when they see Austin Aries doing what he does in the ring. I'd say him and Bryan also seem to run the most, they have the most urgency... which makes sense, you should be in a hurry to hit your opponent before he hits you in a fight.

If I had to say one person was TNA's Daniel Bryan, then yes... it would be Austin Aries. Especially if your talking about the underdog aspect with their size.
 
ive said this many times on the internet, but i truly believe Rhoode/Aries are TNA's versions of Punk/Bryan.

If i was the TNA higher ups, id be basically giving the TV time and monster push that the 2 get on WWE to Rhoode/Aries and build them as my 2 biggest stars. Not Andersons, Bully, Sting and whatever ex WWE star TNAs flavor of the month is.

We'll see what happens in the near future..if Hogan doesnt come back maybe Aries does finally get that top spot
 
ive said this many times on the internet, but i truly believe Rhoode/Aries are TNA's versions of Punk/Bryan.

If i was the TNA higher ups, id be basically giving the TV time and monster push that the 2 get on WWE to Rhoode/Aries and build them as my 2 biggest stars. Not Andersons, Bully, Sting and whatever ex WWE star TNAs flavor of the month is.

We'll see what happens in the near future..if Hogan doesnt come back maybe Aries does finally get that top spot

First of all, you'd think such a giant Bobby Roode fan would know how to spell his name right.

Secondly, you make it seem like Roode and Aries are being held back because of Hogan. As if Roode and Aries never got a fair shake at being the top dog.

Does Robert Roode being the longest reigning World Champion in TNA's history ring a bell? That guy split with Storm, won the BFG series, won the Championship shortly after and ran with it for a really, really long time, beating a lot of people in the process.

While he was doing all of that, however, Austin Aries was having a tremendous run with the X-Division Championship. If that wasn't enough, he traded it in for a shot at Bobby's World Championship and in turn ended the longest World Title reign in TNA's history, beginning his own.

Aries also held it for a decent amount of time and had a decent run with it.

Then these two were non-stop on TV as a tag-team, held the tag-team Champioships. Now Roode is seemingly the leader of a new faction and Aries is fighting for one of the top spots in the BFG Series.

The way I see it, Bobby Roode and Austin Aries already had two monster pushes. They already had the top spotApparently you somehow missed that. In fact, if Hogan's word is to be trusted, he's THE reason why Bobby Roode turned heel and in turn why he won the Championship and everything that followed. TNA wanted Bobby a hardcore face, beating angle at BFG, but Hogan said no and they ran with his idea. Believe what you want, but if it's true your whole 'maybe if Hogan's gone they'll get the top spot' theory goes down the drain.

In your world, TNA doesn't appreciate them as much as they should and Hogan is burying them. In reality, these two had two huge pushes, had good title reigns and continue to be important parts of the show. They ain't two Goldbergs running around, but they're very relevant.

What they're experiencing is rotation. They took someone else's top spot, now someone took their top spot and sooner or later they'll be back up there. Thems the rules in TNA.
 
Well Daniel Bryan has only now reached true main eventer status right? Aries was world champ last year. Him dethroning Roode was one of my favourite moments not just in TNA but in all of wrestling! And he was on fire. He actually had to tell the crowd to be quiet while he was doing a promo on the Impact after his win. He was THAT over! And he was great as the top guy. There were two problems though when he won the world title:

First was that since he won the title via Option C, the BFG Series was ongoing so he had nobody to defend his title against. He had a rematch with Roode but spent the rest of his reign fighting with random Aces & Eights members.

Second was a completely unnecessary heel turn against Jeff Hardy. Now some would say that Aries' is best when he's heel and that's probably true but under the circumstances it was so poorly done. Everyone was behind Aries and with them seemingly trying to recreate the Punk pipe bomb it just didn't work. And sadly Aries lost the belt to Hardy which IMO was a mistake as Hardy's reign was very lackluster (Though had a great ladder rematch with Aries at Turning Point).

So as far as I'm concerned they really did mess up with Aries. But I've no doubt in my mind he will be a world champion again, probably sometime next year.

This is the part where I usually give long lists and detailed opinions on the topic. No need, because you pretty nicely summed it up above. If by calling Aries TNA's Daniel Bryan means he's the best in-ring consistent wrestler then that is accurate. I think Aries is far better in the character department because he is more witty and intelligible on the mic than Bryan. He stands out because of his gimmick of being "the best man that ever lived" and his attention to detail. And while I am also a fan of Bryan's, I simply think Aries is the more complete package where Bryan is just insanely over because of one word catchphrases and his awesome ring work.
 
I was just about to create a thread asking posters to explain to me what they see in Austin Aries. To me, Austin Aries is just a poor man's combination of CM Punk and Edge, except CM Punk is way more witty and articulate and Edge was way more charismatic and passionate. I have no clue why TNA thinks this guy is worth so much. Maybe they're giving him the push Nigel McGuinness would have gotten before he retired?
 
When Aries and Punk we're both getting their big pushes people were on here saying that Aries is TNA"s Punk.
Now that Bryan is getting a big push Aries is TNA's Bryan?
Why does Aries have to be either? Why can't he just be Aries and not compared to anything in WWE?
I get it. They all came up through the same companies and were indie darlings that are now getting a break but I don't see the point in constantly comparing them. Just let the companies be individual from each other.
 
I was just about to create a thread asking posters to explain to me what they see in Austin Aries. To me, Austin Aries is just a poor man's combination of CM Punk and Edge, except CM Punk is way more witty and articulate and Edge was way more charismatic and passionate. I have no clue why TNA thinks this guy is worth so much. Maybe they're giving him the push Nigel McGuinness would have gotten before he retired?

Look? Check.
Build? Check.
Character? Check.
Personality? Check, plus.
Wrestling talent? Check, plus, plus.

You were going to create a thread asking posters to explain to you what they see in him? I think the real question is, what do you not see in him? He's clearly a fantastic wrestling personality in an era drowning in the opposite. He gets compared to Punk, fairly, but Edge? That's a first. I'm not seeing the comparable there. Not in size, not in style, not in much of anything, really.
 
I was just about to create a thread asking posters to explain to me what they see in Austin Aries. To me, Austin Aries is just a poor man's combination of CM Punk and Edge, except CM Punk is way more witty and articulate and Edge was way more charismatic and passionate. I have no clue why TNA thinks this guy is worth so much. Maybe they're giving him the push Nigel McGuinness would have gotten before he retired?

I hate to point out the irony in someone saying Aries sucks and then having Cena as their username/avatar/sig. Aries is a great talker and wrestler. His promos are always high points in the show and he is massively over. All of that factors into why he is so great.
 

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