Is 2010 being written out of history?

[Toroc102]

Is it just me or has WWE basically written off the entire year 2010. If it wasn't for The Miz would anything that happened in 2010 have mattered?

HHH and UT we're out for most for the year, Nexus has been completely and totally buried, you would've never known Kane/Swagger/Sheamus we're WORLD champions, Kane is already back to being a comedy guy, even Randy Orton seems to have fallen by the wayside recently. What did he even do last year?

Looks to me like Daniel Bryan is about to go the same way as the rest of the Nexus, Bret Hart returned last year and tried to bring his family with him but it looks like they're all done, I'm not sure whats going on with the whole GM thing anymore.

I think Vince decided that since so many of his guys were out last year he'd use it to experiment and basically decided to wash his hands of all of it.

I bring this up because until John Cena started to squash the Nexus they were basically the my favorite thing to come out of the WWE maybe since they bought WcW and am pretty pissed about it.

Does anyone else have any thoughts on this, are there any examples that I'm not thinking of?

 

[TheLambofDeth]

2010 was pretty much the year of missed opporunity. To look back at the impact that Nexus made in it inception to what it's been reduced to now...it's staggerng to say the least. How does Barret go fom programs with Cena and Orton a two minute WM squash and fodder for the Rock? Then there's the debauchery that was the S.E.S. So much potential wasted...twice! Not ot mention Jericho leaves. Then you have the botched pushes(?) of Kofi, Ziggller, McIntyre, Reks and Morrison. Swagger falls off the map...completely, Taker gets inujured again, Sheamus loses all his momentum, Edge and Orton were just hanging around aimlessly, Punk gets injured, Ted's a jobber...and i'm pretty sure there's more that i'm forgetting. What the hell even happened on SD in 2010? Besides the Rhodes/Christain/Hardy cycle of doom? I can't even remember. It was just a bad year. With so many injuries to top stars there was just too many opportunities to push younger guys. 2010 was pretty much the year procrastination and mass repetition...devoid of any progression.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

They tried. Lots of bad shit happened.

Miz really proved himself to me as a legit great star. Rock came back.

WWE 'missing' pushes isn't always the right thing to say. A lot of times the wrestler just drops the ball and doesn't stay over. I mean a few years ago they gave Shelton Benjamin an amazing match vs HBK and 3 wins over Triple H and he couldn't stay over. Is that a bad push?

I think it was a mixed year. They're still struggling with the PG thing. Not that I'm one of those douche bags that pisses and moans 'ZOMB KIDDIE SHIT I WANT CUSSING TITTIES AND BLOOD' but that WWE isn't always quite sure how to go about doing something.

The best artists can be entertaining with limitations. having to restrict yourself to PG and still being highly entertaining is a skill most entertainers don't have.

 

[BTLion1990]

I can understand where you're coming from. However, look at the following points:-

The Miz has now established himself and brought stability to the WWE title. I know it went into Mania to truly solidify the man but the ground work was laid for him in 2010.

Although Nexus did get buried towards the end of the year, Barrett is now seen as a future man and has had the time to show what he is about. Without 2010 there would be no Wade Barrett. Despite the burial they had a lot of time and victories.

They put Ziggler and Del Rio on the map in 2010 again laying the groundwork for the next year or so.

Another major heel in Michael Cole emerged. Good or bad take it as you will.

While I can understand the lack of moments and talent that really broke out, it was a matter of building and making stars for the next few years. Remember Miz started that year as Tag Team Champion I believe? And went on to U.S, Money In the Bank, WWE Title, to eventually winning in the Main Event of WrestleMania 2011. They've created subtle moments that will hopefully define 2011 onwards.

 

[BTLion1990]

They tried. Lots of bad shit happened.

Miz really proved himself to me as a legit great star. Rock came back.

WWE 'missing' pushes isn't always the right thing to say. A lot of times the wrestler just drops the ball and doesn't stay over. I mean a few years ago they gave Shelton Benjamin an amazing match vs HBK and 3 wins over Triple H and he couldn't stay over. Is that a bad push?

I think it was a mixed year. They're still struggling with the PG thing. Not that I'm one of those douche bags that pisses and moans 'ZOMB KIDDIE SHIT I WANT CUSSING TITTIES AND BLOOD' but that WWE isn't always quite sure how to go about doing something.

The best artists can be entertaining with limitations. having to restrict yourself to PG and still being highly entertaining is a skill most entertainers don't have.

I don't believe they're struggling with the PG era, they're simply creating moments from it. I remember messages and posts about The Rock saying ass. When Taker got nailed with the chair in the head people were thinking Holy Shit. The entire 2010 with the PG era has made WWE 2011 so far feel ''OMG'' with the use of ''Ass, Bastards and Chair Shots'', The ABC's of wrestling if you will.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

I agree. It's like when a baseball team has to endure a sub par year so their young talent can come up and get experience, then with a few tweaks they have an awesome year the next year.

Pretty excited about 2011 honestly.

To the guy above me, yea, the chair shot to the head meant so much more. Which is why I'm a big proponent of being PG most of the time. I was really REALLY hoping they'd blade too. It was one of the few times blading would have actually made the story better and not just grotesque.

Think about this, why was Austin/Hart so awesome? The storytelling was brilliant, but the BLOOD and violence was so much more than anything that they'd been doing that it stood out. That kind of foreward thinking and talent is why WWE is still here and a lot of other companies are not.

 

[darbare]

2010 wasnt that bad....it wasnt the best, but it wasnt that bad....that honor goes to 2007 imo but thats for another discussion...I think 2010 laid the groundwork for 2011 like alot of other people stated...it may have been boring at times, but wrestling goes through down periods to build up stars properly for the future...they gave us NXT which has royally failed, but we did get The Nexus out of it.....The Nexus gave us a legit future main eventer in Wade Barrett..it also gave us Daniel Bryan and the push to bring him back....without Daniel Bryan The Miz probably wouldnt have progressed the way he did because there was no one else worthy of holding the US title....R-Truth was a bust so he wouldnt work out...The SES had potential but the members involved were the wrong ones....none of them stood out except for Serena, but it was good while it lasted...remember WWE decided to bury them when they had Big Show beat all of them in a handicap match...PPV's did suck last year too...what a letdown SummerSlam was...so much hype and a shit main event ending...Dolph Ziggler built himself up on SD to an extent.....he just has to keep working on his mic skills....Morrison started to step in the end of the year which has given him slight momentum even to this day...Michael Cole and Vickie Guerrero became the 2 biggest heels....Randy Orton became face which has worked out okay...Kane finally got his deserved world title....Cody Rhodes became Dashing....we saw how big of a mistake Edge was on RAW to begin with....there were some good standout matches though...Rey vs ADR....King vs Miz TLC....Swagger vs Rey...Morrison vs Sheamus....Undertaker vs HBK 2.....Punk vs Rey....Batista actually having a good promo...Ziggler vs Bryan....2010 wasnt all bad

 

[SdotRoss]

They tried. Lots of bad shit happened.

Miz really proved himself to me as a legit great star. Rock came back.

WWE 'missing' pushes isn't always the right thing to say. A lot of times the wrestler just drops the ball and doesn't stay over. I mean a few years ago they gave Shelton Benjamin an amazing match vs HBK and 3 wins over Triple H and he couldn't stay over. Is that a bad push?

I think it was a mixed year. They're still struggling with the PG thing. Not that I'm one of those douche bags that pisses and moans 'ZOMB KIDDIE SHIT I WANT CUSSING TITTIES AND BLOOD' but that WWE isn't always quite sure how to go about doing something.

The best artists can be entertaining with limitations. having to restrict yourself to PG and still being highly entertaining is a skill most entertainers don't have.

I will say that for a long time, the product was so raunchy that I became numb to a lot of the cursing and blood and titties. When I hear someone curse on the program, it has a much more profound effect than it had in years prior to PG.

Miz seems to be the one single exception to the year. Ratings weren't looking too healthy for a good portion of the year, but when Miz became champion, he was embraced and has been good for the company from a PR perspective for sure.

I don't know if Shelton Benjamin would be an accurate description for that situation. Being de-pushed is much different from not staying over. Had they chose to keep him in the upper echelon, it would have likely worked. Every time he worked with Taker, Triple H, Chris Jericho, Rob Van Dam, Christian, Shawn Michaels the work had great results. Not like he needed to be led through a match either.

 

[nerd4life]

good thread you make good points.

Shamous for me is the biggest dissapointment. I mean hes a 2 time wwe champ...both times winning off supercena, now hes us champ which really means nothing. IMO he should be the top heel not boring pussy ass miz.

Nexus of course was super strong then now just wow. The corre is a joke. 3 outa 4 of them are champs and they still get owned.

Kane was made strong now a joke.

Same with swagger.

You make good points.

 

[Million Dollar Dream]

Awesome thread! 2010 was a year of the rookies and I get that trying to make stars of the future, however there was a lot of poor decisions booking wise in 2010 also.

Nexus: As stated was booked as (I remember Cole saying this clear as day) "The most dominant stable in history" (what a joke that statement is) and to look at what became of Nexus is very sad. I mean really the original Nexus is now The Corre? What the hell was the point of that? Like someone else said they are champions and booked in a wrestlemania squash match, it lasted what 3 minutes? I was hoping Monday that Corre would destroy The Rock and Cena but they just got owned...

The Hart Dynasty: They destroyed the only legit tag team on the roster. They had Tyson Kidd have the body guard for 1 week or two then he's gone and so is Tyson Kidd's singles push.

The Uso's: See above... Also lost their manager because of a love affair to Santino Marella.

Ted Dibiase: From Legacy to one of the biggest jobbers on the WWE Roster.

The GM: The Laptop still is around with the GM still a mystery after Jericho, and Edge had vowed to find the answer among those original hints that it was dropping each week... Seriously Vince put an end to the Macbook!

Jack Swagger: From World Champion to Coles trainer... Enough said!

Kane: World Champ, feud with Taker to being in a feud with the same person that helped take out his brother (wade barrett)... Awful booking!

Triple H: Gets taken out for a year by Sheamus and has ONE freakin encounter with him since being back? Seriously????

Drew McIntyre: He went from being Vince's hand picked superstar (This is even stated several times in the WWE Smackdown vs Raw 2011 video game) to being a mid-carder.. After being originally booked to be the guy that takes out Undertaker.

Bret Hart: From Raw GM to vanished once again.. I know of the reasons but still this follows suit on the topic's title.

It's like 2010 was full of Vince fighting with himself to let the rookies do something good and then to pull back the strings and have the established stars back being dominant. (I.E. Cena easily squashing Nexus, Undertaker vs Triple H instead of Undertaker vs Wade Barrett).. There are just too many unfinished storylines/questions out of 2010 that more then likely will never be answered.

 

[GameOver]

Drew McIntyre is BOOOOOORING. That's his issue, noone cares about him. Doesn't matter how much you push him, he is BOOOOOOORING.

Ted Dibiase lost his drive, even stopped shaving. Agree though he had far more promise then Cody Rhodes.

Bret Hart was only a guest GM, and you knew it wasn't gonna be for long, he's been done with wrestling since WCW went under.

Agree with ya on Swagger, that was a ball drop. Though maybe it was the speech impediment that they didn't think people could take seriously.

Uso's and Hart Dynasty, problem there, there's noone for them to really battle. no other tag teams worthy of the monicar a Tag Team don't agree though that "they" destroyed there singles careers, they tried to push em but Tyson kid is too small and DH Smith has no charisma on his own.

Nexus most of em except Barrett are still no talent hacks..... Perfect's son and IRS's son sorry spellings suddenly left me on there ring names they had promise but it never showed through.

and now with the Corre it's even worse.

Dolph Ziggler had an up and down. but he's still relevant, that is til Mania where he didn't even do anything in ring That was a huge ball drop having Snooki do 2 moves and call it a match. Ziggler vs Morrison again woulda been much more WrestleMania like.

RAW GM (agreed) WHO CARES!!!!!!! JUST DROP IT ALREADY
There is no mystery anyway, it's obvious to anyone watching on TV that they aren't even reading emails, they are reading from a piece of paper. Seriously? they have a computer there and still use a piece of paper.? Seriously? Seriously?

I'd agree they need to make new stars but NXT has been a complete waste, and now they are doing Tough Enough aswell, it'ss too much. I don't want to see these guys learn the WWE ropes at my cost. Use the developmental territory for what it's meant for and bring em up and straight into the action

 

[Brahma Bull]

I dont think it was forgotten. its just they pushed a lot of people, a lot, and it was either sink or swim.

swagger sunk horribly, but it was not the wwe's fault. hell they gave him a clean win over orton, when orton started the super orton process. the guy should stay the hell away from the title.

barrett became relavent, and even though the corre sucks, i def see world champ for him this year.

cody has probably shinned the most. given a horrible gimmick, but has done awsome, and besides the miz, was the only new guy to win over a veteran, and without interference. i also see a world title for him this year.

sheamus may have fallen, but everyone gets knocked down for awhile. it happened to punk as well. he is making the us title mean something, and he put over morrison.

morrison has become a huge face. no championship yet, but they are doing it slow, which is the smart thing to do. when he wins, it will be like when hardy, eddy, benoite, rvd, won for the first time. something memorable.

even though i cant stand him, the miz has really taken over and is doing quite well as a jericho wanna be.

kane may be doing comedy now, but he was given a title run. people move up and down all the time. i was so happy when kane won. he deserved it, and maybe it was just a thanks for all your hard work type of reign.

all in all, for some people it worked (miz, cody, barrett) and some people proved to be horrible (ted dibiase, swagger). its not the wwe's fault. it is how well they can get over with the crowd, and some can, some cant.

future first time title winners this year:
morrison, rhodes, barrett, del rio, ziggler (i know he is a former champ, but i mean a real reign)

future endevored this year:
ted, swagger, usos, harts, drew, most of the nexus and corre (minus barrett, otunga, zeke, gabriel, and of course punk)

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

Ted Dibiase lost his drive, even stopped shaving. Agree though he had far more promise then Cody Rhodes.

Pretty sure Dibiase stopped shaving as a character trait. He starts losing, starts getting flustered, it bothers him in his everyday routine. Makes sense really.

I don't think Dibiase lost focus, I just think it was a classic example of the Peter Principle.

As far as having more promise than Cody, I don't think so. Cody sold better early on and had a better understanding of subtle storytelling. Dibiase looked better and popped off the screen more initially, but his fundamentals weren't as good as Cody's. Cody had more uniqueness and seemed more maleable. Two things that can make your career last longer.

 

[ipswichicon80]

swagger sunk horribly, but it was not the wwe's fault. hell they gave him a clean win over orton, when orton started the super orton process. the guy should stay the hell away from the title

I disagree with you on this. Swagger was booked as a weak and undeserving champion.He got the clean win over Orton,yes, but that was the ONLY thing WWE did to make him appearer convincing.
His title reign was doomed from the minute he intentionality got him self dq'ed against the Big Slow. Having won the title by cashing in MITB,he had not yet proven himself worthy of the belt.IF he had been booked to go over Show clean, it would have done wonders for his creditability. Hell ,even if they'd allowed him to continue his beatdown on Show after being DQ'd,it would have been something.But no,even though he had a steel chair Big Show pounded him and made the WHC look like a jobber.There really was no way back after this.
I don't know why they felt the need to keep show looking strong, presumably so you buy it when he hobbles out for his micro match at mania and knocks someone out in record time(again making them look like a jobber) but that's just a guess.

 

[FSWWE]

2010 was a good year! Not the best, not the worst, but good!!

First we had Alberto Del Rio making a great debut, a guy that i dont even care on his promos!!
We had The Miz doing a lot!! US Championship, Leader of team RAW, Money in the Bank, WWE Champion, winning against Cena that was on a streak of not losing in Mania in singles matches!!

Nexus thing was so great!! Fuck CM Punk i hate you for destroying them (okay i dont xD)
Dolph Ziggler got pushed, JoMo got push!!

It was a great year for rookies!!!
And then in 2010 we had
HBK vs Undertaker - part 2

It was great in my prespective

 

[Reddog1146]

2010 will probably be marked as a dark year in their history and rightfully so. At WM26, you had Dibiase fighting with randy orton and now he was not even at the next wrestlemania. HHH was out the whole year, sheamus went to mid card, do not even mention swagger and drew mcintyre, and daniel bryan is probably going to low card matches now.

Hopefully 2011 will make up for 2010

 

[Starchild]

Contrary to alot of many of the beliefs posted in here, I thought 2010 was a great year for wrestling. Just because not every single guy they pushed has gotten over doesn't mean it wasn't. Let's look at some of the highlights:

Shawn Michaels, arguably the greatest in ring performer there's ever been, had his last match. And what a great one it was. I was again believing that he might actually beat Taker. I'm not generally one to believe that but WWE has gotten me to question it for at least a few seconds each of the last 3 years and that's a credit to the guys in the ring.

The Nexus made for a very fun summer imo. When they debuted, it was the hottest thing in wrestling in years. It cooled down after awhile, but it was still cool to see this group of rookies running rough shod over many of the veterans. It also led to Wade Barrett becoming a major player. He has quickly risen the ranks to one of my more favorite guys in WWE and it's because of how masterful he was during his run with Nexus.

The evolution of the Miz was another cool thing to see. I always like when the guys have a slow progression and you can see them getting better constantly until they finally reach main event and world title level. He started off the year on a team with Big Show, having midcard feuds for the US title, and mentoring Daniel Bryan. We slowly watched as he progressed in the ring and on the mic until he won MitB, talked about it for months, then finally cashed in to win. And since then he has had a great run as champion and will be one of THE guys in the company for years to come.

Kane rose the ranks again and did the best work he's done in many years. He had some great promos as champion and while the matches with Taker may have been lackluster, I enjoyed seeing a long-tenured guy like Kane get that one last big one that he so deserved.

We also saw the emergence and rising up the ranks of some great in ring performers such as Ziggler, Morrison, and DBD. These guys had a number of great matches during 2010. There's also Cody Rhodes who finally came into his own in 2010. He was given a mediocre character and has made it into one of the best things going on Smackdown. He also stepped up his in ring work and it looks like he'll be a future world champion.

As for the the failures, I suppose Dibiase, Swagger, and McIntyre top the list. I have never really thought much of either Dibiase or Swagger. I don't think I ever believed either would go very far. I knew Rhodes would be the star of Legacy eventually. I just don't see interesting character in either of those two. McIntyre I think has the potential to be big if he could just put it together. He had a great character, I like his style, and I like the fact that he's Scottish. It makes his promos unique. I think if he goes with that ruthlessness he showed this year, he still has a chance to do some big things.
The tag division is just a joke at this point so it didn't surprise me that they broke up the Hart Dynasty. I feel like they'll never get over as singles competitors so why not have teams like the Usos, and HD stay together so we can actually have a tag division.

So overall, I liked 2010 and think the positives far outweighed the negatives and think their was alot started in that year to build on going forward.

 

[TheKingHustla]

simple answer to this is two words: the rock. they erased all of 2010 to let the rock be the main focus. they even forget about the whole undertaker being buried by kane and the members that are now corre. how did kane and corre team up, then forget all about that and fight? they erased the fact that cody rhodes was with orton when he kicked punk, even tho that wasnt in 2010 but still. i think the wwe has trouble keepin up with their own storylines now. nexus and corre havnt even had an outting against eachvother since royal rumble. i thought that would have been a great storyline. especially if they were gonna have nexus axed, they could have established the corre more by having them do it, instead of trying to have them attack kane and big show, which didnt really make since to me. i just started watching wwe again at elimination chamber this year and i wanted to see what i missed, story wise, before that, and when i looked on wikipedia and youtube, none of what i saw was really relevant to what was going on now. and whatever happened to drew mac? it seemed like he would be so promising, but naw. they must have forgotten about him too. They buried all the possible stars for older established stars, like rock, hhh, taker, trish and cena. hopefully they'll address them in the near future since mania is over and the rock is gonna dissappear again for 11 months. but i doubt it.

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

you are complaining that they forgot about Kane's past?

Here's a history of Kane "GRRR I'M A MONSTER" "I'm a likeable big guy" "OOO SOMEONE PISSED ME OFF, NOW GRRR I'M A MONSTER" "I'm a likeable big guy" "OOO SOMEONE PISSED ME OFF, GRR I'M A MONSTER".
See what I'm saying? Complaining that pro wrestling doesn't always follow logic is like complaining that Michael Bay movies don't follow logic.

I don't think they buried future stars until Rock buried the main event of wrestlemania. HHH vs Undertaker didn't bury anyone, they elevated Del Rio and Miz.

What WWE does is "sink or swim" they give you a push, if you don't get over, they stop pushing you. That's why I never bought the whole "pushing Cena down our throats" because you KNOW if he didn't get over, if the quarterly ratings during his segments stunk, and if his merch didn't sell that Vince would stop. It was working so they kept pushing. maybe a bit much at times, but the WWE has to balance public image, artistic expression, and business at the same time. Sometimes one has to be sacrificed. The PG era means guys are restricted, which hurts the artistic expression but helps business because parents are comfortable again in letting their kids watch.

I think the PG thing makes it harder for guys to take their push and get it over.

 

[thelegacywillremain1]

it's funny how you guys say 2010 was a wash and yet you can still write everything that happen this was the year everyone was waiting for and yet you guys say it sucked you got tons of new wrestlers for the future the draft should be good coming up you got nexus it was a good storyline for a while and it fizzled towards the end of the year and thats ok they are not dx or nwo they were a group of young kids looking to make a impact they never wanted to take over wwe like nwo with wcw so it was good and thats all you need nexus carried wwe thru the summer and most of the fall you got miz a top heel now like it or not it worked u got cm punk and you got to see cena get his ass whooped for about a month that was great how can you say 2010 was bad

 

[TWJC: The Beginning]

They can say 2010 was bad because they didn't book it. Because they didn't bring back the entire roster from the time they were marks and loved wrestling. I mean, 1996-1997 WCW is my favorite time in a promotion ever because I was young and really into it. I wouldn't want it to be like that again.

You see people seriously suggesting Rock beats Cena or that we have Rock/Austin or Austin/McMahon. That's just stupid. The match would suck. If you wanna see a company using old guys trying to rehash the past, watch Halloween havoc 1999 or whatever it was with Hogan vs Warrior. That's how you take nostalgic guys and make it terrible. Watch WMX8 to see how to do it right.

The IWC in general can't be pleased. That's why Vince won't turn Cena heel to try to get the whole audience to have the same reaction. The 30% that boos him will still come out to watch. They enjoy bitching, the IWC LOVES to complain and yell 'BOTCH BOTCH BOTCH' anytime a guy stumbles. Most lack the intelligence to really look deeper at what's going on and can't wrap their head around the idea that there is more to wrestling than moves.