Inconsistent Pushes

[MrPierrini]

This thread is just about something that has been annoying me, making wrestlers look strong and then burying them the next week.

here's some examples:

Kofi Kingston-probably the worst booked intercontinental champion i've ever seen, has he won since getting the title?

Sheamus-What can i say, his losing streak and then he wins the U.S title out of the blue, no build up

Drew Mcintyre: booked well in the Elimination Chamber, main evented the smackdown after the Elimination Chamber, faced Edge the week after, faced Mysterio the week after that and then.....loses a dark match to developmental wrestler Percy Watson

Basically do you agree at all with what i have said? Does it hurt the wrestlers career's? As it is mainly with the young wrestlers is it harming the youth movement? Your thoughts

 

[poppycock]

Sometimes they push them too far too soon and then the only way is down. I wonder if Alberto Del Rio will be a victim of this.

 

[brainsuks1234]

Kofi Kingston-probably the worst booked intercontinental champion i've ever seen, has he won since getting the title?

Ok I can see where your going with this but I really dont like this guy. His whole gimmick is horrible I was so happy to see him go bad with his feud on Orton that was the type of gimmick I liked to see out of kofi. But wwe dropped the ball on him -__-.

Sheamus-What can i say, his losing streak and then he wins the U.S title out of the blue, no build up

Sheamus is probably the only person who im really suprised to see to go from main event to mid-card. This guy had a monster push in 2009-2010. Then 2011 came around and wwe just forgot about him. Im crossing my fingers hoping something good will happen for him after wrestlemania is over.

Drew Mcintyre: booked well in the Elimination Chamber, main evented the smackdown after the Elimination Chamber, faced Edge the week after, faced Mysterio the week after that and then.....loses a dark match to developmental wrestler Percy Watson

He's a great wrestler im suprised he hasn't won the big title yet. Personally in my opinion he should be the one facing edge at Wrestlemania not Alberto Del Rio. Drew is "The Chosen one" right ?

 

[MrPierrini]

@brainsuks1234
It's not a question of whether I or you like them or not (i dont like Kofi either by the way) im just saying whats the point in WWE wasting programming by pushing a guy one week and then making him job the next. Kofi hasn't done anything at all that makes you think, wow he's the intercontinental champion and I always feel that the belt is being devalued and wasted by booking him this way.

P.S Drew is one of my favourites too and yeah it is certainly a shame that he probably won't even be at Wrestlemania.

 

[Calderownz]

This thread is just about something that has been annoying me, making wrestlers look strong and then burying them the next week.

here's some examples:

Kofi Kingston-probably the worst booked intercontinental champion i've ever seen, has he won since getting the title?

Kofi is in a weird spot right now. The Intercontinental title win seemed obvious, in the sense that he deserved it. However, all the major guys are tied up. Having them lose to him at this point while taking on bigger feuds at the same time is hard to work with.

Kofi will have to wait it out. Which is fine. Because the moment a top guy opens up and is free, he has the title that keeps the story interesting for a while.

This happens a lot around WrestleMania, especially recently. Look at all the IC champs in the last few years around WM time. Some exceptions, but they are usually booked in weird ways.

Sheamus-What can i say, his losing streak and then he wins the U.S title out of the blue, no build up

The build up was that he was losing and got too big-headed. So, when he focused and put it all on the line, he was able to win the championship. It's decent enough, as, once again, a lot of the other top guys are tied up heading into the big show.

Drew Mcintyre: booked well in the Elimination Chamber, main evented the smackdown after the Elimination Chamber, faced Edge the week after, faced Mysterio the week after that and then.....loses a dark match to developmental wrestler Percy Watson

Well a dark match certainly won't hurt his career. It's not going to be remembered a month from now, forget in the long run.

Basically do you agree at all with what i have said? Does it hurt the wrestlers career's? As it is mainly with the young wrestlers is it harming the youth movement? Your thoughts

It happens to young athletes in the company as they have to pay their dues and wait their turns. Sometimes, you have to let new faces get into the title picture. At the big show, you need to let the established names sell the PPVs and tickets.

Most of the guys you mentioned will have their moments to shine.

 

[Brahma Bull]

kofi- as calderownz said, its around wrestlemania. he is suppose to loose to people in the big matches, like alberto del rio. you dont push people around mania, unless that is the point (like del rio and the miz), other than those, mania is suppose to focus on the big guys in the big show. im sure kofi will continue on the push he was getting after mania.

sheamus- jericho did the same thing with bourne. sheamus got a monster push, and is now putting others over. again, things are always diffferent around mania.

mcintyre- for him, cant really seem to get himself over. i wouldnt be suprised if he got future endevored.

 

[Zigglerfan227]

I do not understand why the WWE likes to push guys (or divas) and then all of a sudden they are dropped on their head.

I remember when Kofi Kingston was fueding with Randy Orton. After it was all over with Kingston went back down in the mid-card. It was pretty much like Kingston ran at Orton and Orton kicked his butt down to the ground pretty hard.

Sheamus became the WWE champion so fast and continued to stay in the main event scene. Then all of a sudden he was fueding with John Morrison That did not really bother me too much. Then, he won the King of the Ring tournament. I was a little confused because I thought the king of the ring was to help build wrestlers who needed help, not having a former WWE champion come in a destroy everyone. Then Sheamus started to come out in a ridiculous "King Sheamus" outfit and I was very concerned. He looked as if he had lost his ever loving Irish mind and had become a kid again. Of course then we see him start to lose all of his matches. I was pretty mad. What happened WWE? Why did Sheamus go from a WWE champion to a jobber??!!

There have been many other talents that they have screwed up but I cannot sit here and type all night. Mcintyre, Mike Knox, Ted Dibiasi, Umaga, MVP, Mr. Kennedy, Carlito, Chris Masters, Mark Henry, and so many more have fallen victim to WWE pushing them and then dropping the ball with them.

 

[Zangash]

Evan Bourne. Went from taking Orton to the limit on his Raw debut, to jobbing, to teaming with Cena and pinning Sheamus, back to jobbing, to winning multiple times against Jericho, back to jobbing...

WWE has no idea WHAT to do with this guy.

 

[silrock316]

First, this thing with Sheamus had me at first glance believing that Sheamus may have done something wrong backstage which led Vince to have creative bury him, however he wins the US title out of the blue. I could have sworn he was going to lose and then be shipped to Smackdown! However WWE has done this with SEVERAL superstars. Swagger was being pushed like crazy for awhile but then when he got to Raw he slowly started declining to the midcard and then BANG just like that he wins MITB for the MITB briefcase and to name another they did it with MVP. At one time MVP was a legit stud heel that had one of the longest US title runs in history then bang out of nowhere he was losing. Not losing 1 week, or 2 weeks or even 3 weeks. This went on for a bit until HHH helped him win a match and right after that he shot right back up into the mid-card as a credable wrestler.

My point is I do not believe it HAS to hurt a wrestler that it happens to but it is greatly important to handle them strongly going forward. i.e.

Example #1: Kane - He use to be a steady in the mainevent picture but for a long while he was stuck in mid level fueds that no one cared about but after awhile they made him unstoppable again and became WHC again.

Example #2: Big Show - Basically the same as Kane, he will go through stages where he is in stupid mid-card matches but can also just be thrown in a title picture.

Now the situation that has happened some what recently that has really bugged me was the giant push of Wade Barrett. I really felt like the NeXus with him had some legs. It wasn't your tradional stable. These were not proven commodities dominating, which appealed to me. They had underlined storylines for him(them) when it came to him basically being behind the attack of the Undertaker but then out of the blue CM Punk, who is an established star is running the NeXus, a group that was built basically from WWE NXT. Cm Punk was not a NXT wrestler. Not only did they replace him, they throw him on Smackdown and give him a makeshift put together stable called "The Core".

To me Wade Barrett has all the tools to be good. He is above average with the mic(VERY important in wrestling as WE all know), and carry a decent match and he has the look. Maybe not the Randy Orton appeal to the women but the look as a big, strong, fast athlete.

The Wade Barrett push then stop push is way worse than Kofi's. At least Kofi has a title to help get him over.

Sorry if this was too long but the Barrett thing bothers me. He did so well as the NeXus leader. People HATED him when Cena was his "Slave" for lack of a better word and now WWE is wasting Randy Orton at Wrestlemania for a washed up, drawn out, predictable NeXus.

 

[dizzle1119]

It pisses me off to a certain degree. Morrison should be a bonafide main eventer at this point and McIntyre should be well on his way to being the same.

They've been teasing a main event promotion with Morrison forever. He'll go on a roll, win over the crowd and then sink right back down the ranks. It's ridiculous at this point. The fans like the guy, he's awesome in the ring and his mic work isn't nearly as bad as some make it seem. He doesn't have the mic skills of The Rock or anything, but he's serviceable. Dude should've had a one on one PPV title shot months ago. A heel turn would solidify it. The kids are big on Morrison at this point and if he turned it'd break their heart. He'd have instant heat.

I don't understand why people don't care for Drew. He has a decent look, his DDT is brutal and he's pretty good on the mic. He must've pissed someone off backstage, because at one point Vince was big on him.

I don't understand it...