Impact Support Club House

[The Dragon Saga]

So, yay to man on woman brutality, huh?

If it's Dixie Carter, yay. Yay all the way.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

TV taping tonight was fucking awesome. What a great show!

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Sup bitches. Asl pls

 

[Dirk]

So, yay to man on woman brutality, huh?

Only if there's a safeword

 

[Con T.]

Wonder if Dixie will promise to pay her medical bills, only to refuse when the bills comes in.

 

[Dirk]

Wonder if Dixie will promise to pay her medical bills, only to refuse when the bills comes in.

Rest assured, she'll tweet about it.

 

[Con T.]

Just watched the full minute long video of the whole event.

Fuck TNA, and its fans. The whole scene had a vibe of the rape scene of The Accused. If you popped for this, I don't know what I tell you other than you're a mouth breathing, knuckle dragging moron.

 

[Zeven_Zion]

Just watched the full minute long video of the whole event.

Fuck TNA, and its fans. The whole scene had a vibe of the rape scene of The Accused. If you popped for this, I don't know what I tell you other than you're a mouth breathing, knuckle dragging moron.

5-6 million people from one of the greatest periods in wrestling disagree with you. But you know better, right?

... right?

Also, apparently every other TV watcher in the world is a moron by your standards. If you watch Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Dexter - prepare to be lynched. Not to mention every single movie where the bad guy was shot between the eyes or dismembered by the good guy.

But no, a chick going through a fake table - now that's too far you guys. 'Fuck you watch all day? Discovery Channel? Ice skating? A three hour long footage of a kitten being pet gently?

Eat shit and die, you biased cunt.

 

[Cereal Killer]

Shit's going down.

Looking forward to these NYC events. By the looks of the comments it was a great show. No one tell me if Dixie was sent through a table.

 

[Con T.]

5-6 million people from one of the greatest periods in wrestling disagree with you. But you know better, right?

... right?

You do realize that sponsors were leaving WWE in droves because of the shit Vince McMahon pulled in that era, and likely set the WWE back by years, right?

But yes, WWE got high ratings during the time of Stone Cold and The Rock, so clearly misogyny and beating women works.

Grow the fuck up.

Also, apparently every other TV watcher in the world is a moron by your standards. If you watch Breaking Bad, Game of Thrones, Dexter - prepare to be lynched. Not to mention every single movie where the bad guy was shot between the eyes or dismembered by the good guy.

In virtually no other form of scripted entertainment is a group of thirty men surrounding a middle aged woman, kissing her against her will, and then beating her up depicted as a babyface spot.

That's the difference. That. Right there. So don't even try to boil it down to a very generic description of what occurred, without looking at the entire goddamn context.

But no, a chick going through a fake table - now that's too far you guys. 'Fuck you watch all day? Discovery Channel? Ice skating? A three hour long footage of a kitten being pet gently?

1) You're meant to cheer for it. They intend the audience to endorse this.

2) The woman is helplessly surrounded by a mob, sexually assaulted and then incapacitated.

And remember, you're supposed to want this to happen and cheer for it.

3) There is a live audience of people who are not characters in the performance all cheering these actions.

Imagine there was a TV show where a helpless woman was chased by a mob, caught, molested, and then injured. There is probably a scene like this that exists, but it's escaping me.

Now imagine that the point of this scene is not that the perpetrators are terrible, horrible people, but heroes. Not only are they heroes, this act is meant to be viewed as heroic.

Now, add to that a live audience of young men watching this happen and cheering for it.

It's disturbing. And I have no problem telling you I'm a better person than you are, if you really don't find that disturbing.

Eat shit and die, you biased cunt.

I'm biased? I'm biased?

You know what.... I am. I legitimately am. Don't give a fuck to present myself otherwise. You know what I'm biased about? I'm biased against rape culture.

Why? Because on a daily basis, I work with abused women, women who have grown up not knowing anything other than rape, abuse, and domestic violence. That's my background, that's what I grew up in. And I'm growing fucking sick of idiots (like yourself), who support angles like this.

We live in a society in which far, far too many women are marginalized and victimized by men on a daily basis, often through physical violence.

To turn a man physically attacking a woman into a babyface spot, no matter how horrible of a person the female character has been first and no matter whether this is the intention or not, perpetuates a culture of acceptable violence against women and is, frankly, disgusting.

I'm not saying that some fan will go out there and beat up his wife or his girlfriend for the sole reason that he saw Dixie Carter get put through a table on Impact, but what this is is one more brick in a cultural wall that helps establish that violence against women is acceptable when they do something you disagree with. The problem is that, when that culture is perpetuated, some men will look to it and say think, on a subconscious level, "My [wife/mother/girlfriend/insert other woman in their lives] sure is being a huge bitch. I'd better put her in her place. There's nothing wrong with that, because TV and movies have told me it's OK."

This isn't that fucking hard. Albert Bandura studied this stuff sixty fucking years ago. It isn't new how the media and what we see on television shapes our behavior. And if you're too much of a knuckle dragger to understand this, that says a fuck ton more about you than it does about me.

You're being sexist, because you're saying women can't take bumps like men

I'll just go ahead and stop you there, before you weave that straw man argument. As far as "equal rights = equal opportunity to be put through a table" is concerned, maybe I'd be willing to listen if we were in a society where women actually had equal rights and opportunities. We've made great progress, but we're a long way away. And shit like this is not helping; I'm tired of this type of shit subverting our culture, and I'm tired of uneducated fucks like you defending it.

In short, fuck off, you fucking moron, and get some perspective.

EDIT: I just saw Cereal Killer's post. I'm sorry to spoil it, mate. Really do feel bad for you. Don't feel bad at all for laying this dipshit to waste

 

[Cereal Killer]

Woah woah woah, something doesn't sound right. How come you're implying she was sexually abused? Surely that didn't happen...

 

[Con T.]

Woah woah woah, something doesn't sound right. How come you're implying she was sexually abused? Surely that didn't happen...

When a woman is kissed against her will, yes, that's sexual assault.

Legitimately hate that spot, even when Hulk Hogan does it. It's a stupid spot then, it's a stupid on now.

 

[klunderbunker]

This was a wrestling angle. It was built up, it was teased, it was executed. Stuff like this has happened for years and it's happening now. If this offends you, then don't watch the episode. You know when it airs, so watch flowers grow instead.

 

[Con T.]

This was a wrestling angle. It was built up, it was teased, it was executed. Stuff like this has happened for years and it's happening now. If this offends you, then don't watch the episode. You know when it airs, so watch flowers grow instead.

I'm not. But goddamn if I'm not fucking sick of this.

Yes, I get it; it's wrestling. That doesn't give it carte blanche to do whatever the it wants, just because it's wrestling. The angle itself is stupid, the whole premise has been stupid, and again, I'm really tore of seeing this shot anywhere. I'm tired of of feeling embarassed for a form of entertainment I legitimately love.

 

[klunderbunker]

I'm not. But goddamn if I'm not fucking sick of this.

Yes, I get it; it's wrestling. That doesn't give it carte blanche to do whatever the it wants, just because it's wrestling. The angle itself is stupid, the whole premise has been stupid, and again, I'm really tore of seeing this shot anywhere. I'm tired of of feeling embarassed for a form of entertainment I legitimately love.

Then maybe you should consider gardening. Far less annoyances for you. THis is tame compared to a lot of stuff you see in wrestling.

 

[Con T.]

Being a less shitty thing than the shitty things that came before you doesn't make you a good thing.

 

[klunderbunker]

No, but it does make it something really not worth complaining about.

 

[Con T.]

No, but it does make it something really not worth complaining about.

How's about I decide what I want to complain about?

Again, I get it; not everyone's going to be offended. I'm not asking everyone to hop on board with me. But again, if you're going to defend an angle that is reminiscent of the rape scene in The Accused, again, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[klunderbunker]

How's about I decide what I want to complain about?

Again, I get it; not everyone's going to be offended. I'm not asking everyone to hop on board with me. But again, if you're going to defend an angle that is reminiscent of the rape scene in The Accused, again, I don't know what to tell you.

Go right ahead. Then feel free to allow us to point out how far you're blowing this out of proportion. Also, there's a movie where a woman is powerbombed through a table? I need to watch that.

 

[Con T.]

You're in the same boat as Zeven Zion.

You really feel like you're in good company on this one?

 

[klunderbunker]

You're in the same boat as Zeven Zion.

You really feel like you're in good company on this one?

If Zion is making sense, then yeah I'd rather be in his company than someone comparing a worked angle to gang rape.

 

[Con T.]

If Zion is making sense, then yeah I'd rather be in his company than someone comparing a worked angle to gang rape.

I'm not saying that some fan will go out there and beat up his wife or his girlfriend for the sole reason that he saw Dixie Carter get put through a table on Impact, but what this is is one more brick in a cultural wall that helps establish that violence against women is acceptable when they do something you disagree with. The problem is that, when that culture is perpetuated, some men will look to it and say think, on a subconscious level, "My [wife/mother/girlfriend/insert other woman in their lives] sure is being a huge bitch. I'd better put her in her place. There's nothing wrong with that, because TV and movies have told me it's OK."

Of course, the violent man bears primary responsibility for his own actions in that scenario, but TNA perpetuating the culture that allows that thought process to exist is disturbing and irresponsible.

What part of this did you miss?

 

[klunderbunker]

What part of this did you miss?

I'd like to reemphasize: this is wrestling. She was surrounded by several grown men and.....powerbombed through a table into a professional wrestling ring. You don't think that's just SLIGHTLY different than a woman being beaten black and blue because her husband is a drunk? Stories have been written with violent content in them since literature was invented. This theory that it's not ok because Dixie is a woman is a bad story. She was evil and abused her power and is being punished for it. The fact that she's a woman is a detail.

 

[Con T.]

You don't think that's just SLIGHTLY different than a woman being beaten black and blue because her husband is a drunk

No, but it propagates the culture we have in place that a man is entitled to do as he wants with a woman's body.

Nobody wants to see a big physical man beat the shit out of a woman, except creeps. You lose any female audience, you lose kids, you lose almost all of the men too. You just get the grossos who either

A) Don't believe anything you do is important

B) men who just like seeing women get beat up by men.

There's a reason Spike has a strict no man on woman violence policy in effect.

But sure, let's defend TNA recreating ECW angles from 15 years ago that caused them to go bankrupt because television stations wouldn't touch them. Let's defend things that caused WWF to lose sponsors even though they were at the height of their ratings popularity. There's no way any of that is a negative and Spike are just dumb dumbs for not allowing this kind of thing on their network for over a decade. They just don't get it, bro.

 

[klunderbunker]

No, but it propagates the culture we have in place that a man is entitled to do as he wants with a woman's body.

No. It propagates the culture that says evil people are punished for their crimes.

Nobody wants to see a big physical man beat the shit out of a woman, except creeps. You lose any female audience, you lose kids, you lose almost all of the men too. You just get the grossos who either

A) Don't believe anything you do is important

B) men who just like seeing women get beat up by men.

Or Option C (see what I did there?): Fans who like going along with a story and seeing the payoff for it and don't apply it to real life because it's fiction.

There's a reason Spike has a strict no man on woman violence policy in effect.

Seems to have been lightened up.

But sure, let's defend TNA recreating ECW angles from 15 years ago that caused them to go bankrupt because television stations wouldn't touch them.

....huh? You think women getting beaten up was the reason ECW went off TV?

Let's defend things that caused WWF to lose sponsors even though they were at the height of their ratings popularity. There's no way any of that is a negative and Spike are just dumb dumbs for not allowing this kind of thing on their network for over a decade. They just don't get it, bro.

Or they're like you and use a catchall answer to a question without thinking for themselves.