Impact - October 21, 2015

[klunderbunker]

Yeah I don't care either.

 

[klunderbunker]

The Bound For Glory main event will air later. You had to know this kind of thing was coming soon.

 

[klunderbunker]

You could cut this whole thing down so much if it wasn't for the time stuff. I really don't need to have TNA try to convince me that Brooke or Mandrews could be the World Heavyweight Champion.

 

[Starkist]

Sounds like another show of nothing?

 

[klunderbunker]

I'm kind of glad they're airing some clips of matches instead of the full thing. I'd like to see the whole Series, but I think I can live without seeing Crimson vs. Jesse Godderz and Eli Drake vs. Micah in full.

 

[klunderbunker]

Review is up.

Why We're Here

 

[Alex]

Wow.

You know it's bad when IDR can't be asked to show up

 

[It's Damn Real!]

IDR has an infant still. I meant to post the LD earlier, but just forgot. Once I realized it like a half hour into the show, I figured KB would have opened it anyway since it's usually he and I just chatting the entire night anyway.

 

[klunderbunker]

IDR has an infant still. I meant to post the LD earlier, but just forgot. Once I realized it like a half hour into the show, I figured KB would have opened it anyway since it's usually he and I just chatting the entire night anyway.

We're the only two stalwarts from the old days left. I remember a time when TNA had the biggest LD in forum history. Now we can't get to a second page. It's very telling.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

We're the only two stalwarts from the old days left. I remember a time when TNA had the biggest LD in forum history. Now we can't get to a second page. It's very telling.

Yup. Plus, good as the matches themselves are, this whole World Title Series is boring television. And it's just going to get worse until they get to the end stretch when people will actually care.

When'd TNA have the biggest LD in forum history? One of those stupid controversial moments where everyone came in bitching kind of thing?

 

[klunderbunker]

Yup. Plus, good as the matches themselves are, this whole World Title Series is boring television. And it's just going to get worse until they get to the end stretch when people will actually care.

When'd TNA have the biggest LD in forum history? One of those stupid controversial moments where everyone came in bitching kind of thing?

1/4/10. So yeah kind of.

And yeah we're sitting through basically eight to ten weeks of qualifying matches. That's dull stuff, especially when a lot of them are going to be meaningless as you know some people have no chance. I really don't need to see Micah vs. Crimson for eight minutes for an alleged chance to win the title.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Hardy, Flair, Hogan. Makes sense. I bet if we dug up that LD it'd be a shit load more negative than postiive though.

 

[klunderbunker]

Have at it.

http://forums.wrestlezone.com/showthread.php?t=87789

I rewatched that show about a year ago and dear goodness does it not hold up. So much of it is shock value that adds nothing and makes no sense when you think about it.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Well, shit. I went into it expecting to read some regrettable comment or two from me, but turns out I wasn't even in the LD. I guess I guess this predates when you finally got me to start participating in them?

 

[klunderbunker]

I'm guessing so. It's really scary how far things have fallen in just a few years and so much of it changed that night.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Even if you don't use that as the barometer. Even if you use LD's from a few months after that point, or even through to '11 and '12... to see where they are in '15 where you and I are fighting sleep just to make it through. It's sad, is what it is.

 

[klunderbunker]

It is, but so many of the problems that you could see building back then are reality now. It's one of those things where they never put the brakes on and just let the Hogan/Bischoff time dominate everything and it never recovered.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

NSL kind of nailed it...

"Either way, Bret Hart hosting RAW will mean just about nothing a year from now. TNA either becoming competition, or beginning their march to doomsday means a lot more to the history of wrestling."

 

[klunderbunker]

It does, though at least the Bret return gave us a nice moment. I can't think of anything nice about the entire TNA show, save for maybe the main event.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Well, the show was exciting, even if it wasn't logical. Hardy's return alone was incredible, because it kind of came out of nowhere. Same with Flair's debut.

That's something TNA used to be able to hang their hat on. Even when not logical (which is often), it was exciting. That's what's been missing for a long time now. Excitement. Legitimate excitement.

What's the last angle they ran that had it, that actually got people talking about the company? "They"?

 

[klunderbunker]

Well, the show was exciting, even if it wasn't logical. Hardy's return alone was incredible, because it kind of came out of nowhere. Same with Flair's debut.

That's something TNA used to be able to hang their hat on. Even when not logical (which is often), it was exciting. That's what's been missing for a long time now. Excitement. Legitimate excitement.

What's the last angle they ran that had it, that actually got people talking about the company? "They"?

That's the line I used at the end: it was exciting but not good.

Yeah probably THEY. That was an awesome angle and their big idea was to take their most popular guy and turn him heel. Brilliance again.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

I didn't mind the Hardy turn itself. It was the rest of "They" that was a disappointment.

 

[klunderbunker]

It was also that Hardy was third in command and an afterthought. That whole thing was about Eric and Hulk and that's not good.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Right. The Hardy turn itself I didn't hate. It was just "They" and "Immortal" that were terrible.

 

[klunderbunker]

And it was all downhill from there because it was the NWO all over again.