Барбоса;4021797 said:
Plenty of spot on observations regarding the problems with the current WWE product.
I would take issue with the criticising of the abilities of the likes of Cena and Punk. Indeed, I think there is plenty of talent within the current WWE roster but at times it is used so badly that it does not matter how good they are.
Even when the in-ring performances have been stellar, and there have been some excellent contests this year so far, Vince and his Creative team have done their best to squander the positives of the entertainment provided by Punk/Jericho, Bryan/Sheamus, Punk/Bryan and Cena/Lesnar.
I must say that the Twitter obsession is perhaps my least favourite thing on TV at the moment.
Here's my issues with Cena and Punk, I'll try and keep it analytical so I don't get the usual "uhhh you're a moron/dumbass/etc" responces I normally get from the nuthugger's when I talk about those two, so;
Cena
I just don't believe the guy, on my TV or in the ring. Infact he's terrible in the ring, and I don't mean "oh, work rate"...I could care less about "work rate", I'll leave that to the guys who faun over Dave Meltzer and bust a nut because they think knowing the term "puro" makes them "smart". I mean, the guy dosen't sell, AT ALL.
Watch his "I Quit" match with the Miz...hell, watch his match with Lesnar, he takes the beating of a life time. Miz hits him with Kendo sticks, beats him worse than "the passion of the christ", john makes him come back, Miz quits, badda bing, badda boom. But after the match, after all the pain and punishment, does he sell? Haha, does he fuck. No he bounds around the ring, waving the title, hi-5ing the little kiddies then bounds up the ramp.
So, psycological the image he's presenting is, "I took all the punishment, and it didn't do a damn thing". What does that say to an audience, a. "everything you just watched is fake, because in reality, the guy would be crawling up the ramp, licking his wounds". And b. "Miz is pathetic, all that offense and he didn't even dent the guy...what a shmuck".
Which leads to my next point, he's never put ANYONE over. And I don't mean he's never "done a job", I mean whenever he's confronted with a "big bad heel", and they're in the ring together, what does he do? He smiles and acts like it's all a big joke, so John, what you're telling me as a viewer is, you don't fear this guy. He isn't a physical threat, he's a joke...and people wonder why Miz/Truth/Swagger/etc never got over.
Just to prove my point, rewatch the in-ring segment between Rock, Cena, Miz and Truth. What's Rock doing? He's eye to eye with both guys, he's in a fighting stance, he's putting across "these are bad dudes, they could fuck me up" he's on a hair trigger...just incase. What's Cena doing? The same old shit, walking around the ring, turning his back on the heels, doing his shitty comedy routine, making it all a big joke.
Why does that matter, I hear you ask, well, simply put, if the face has no fear of the heel...if there's no physical threat, i.e possibility he could lose, the match is meaningless. Why do I want to order the PPV when I already know, through his own actions/attitude, Cena is going to win.
Also, if after 8 years in the ring you STILL don't know to fucking PULL BACK on an STF, you really are rancid, useless and need to go away.
His promos make me sick aswell, this goes back to him putting no-one/nothing over. Just the usual sugar-coated, "talking directly to the fans because I'm a shit worker and can't get them invested any other way", bad comedy shtick. He's never cut a believable promo, in terms of, he's never acknowledged things as a "fight", he's never put over getting beat..he just rambles on about fucking Star Wars or whatever.
Now, CM Punk
I just don't get it, honestly, I've never seen what any of the IWC see in him. What is his character meant to be? If I'm going by his promo work it's "pain in the ass, irreverant indy smark". Same complaint as Cena really, his "breaking the fourth wall" shit during the "Raw contract signing"..."oh, so it is all fake then punk...I must keep watching this phoney, hokey garbage.."
He's too small. And I'm not going "oh, I want Kali and Ezekiel Jackson, muscle bound big-men who can't work", no. I'm saying he's physically too small..well, small's the wrong word, he's too "out of shape" to be believable as a fighter. The guy has a GUT for fucks sake.
Before anyone makes the UFC comparison, yes, there are smaller guys in UFC who kick ass, but they're RIPPED, Punk is not. Plus, these guys are lightweights/middleweights not heavyweights. Sorry but you NEED heavyweights in your HEAVYWEIGHT title scene, otherwise it's just silly, hokey and fake.
His look is god awful, his silly expressions, bad tattoo's, greasy hair and ring attire that looks like it came from good will...and what the fuck is with that "home made" elbow pad?! The guy looks like a BUM. How can I feel sympathy for this guy as an "under-dog" when he looks like a dirty, smelly junkie?
I absolutly don't rate his ring work either. Here's my point, look at his MITB match with Cena, the build going in is, either he's leaving with the belt...boom, gonzo, gets one over on Vince and the whole company. If Cena dosen't win, he gets fired. Punk's running against the almost "unbeatable" Super-Cena, Cena's livelyhood is on the line, High stakes, right?
What we should've seen at the start of the match was an explosion of fight, what we got was "flurry of offense, rest hold...stop, look at each other, start again" for 15 minutes. Garbage!
I've heard people compare him to Roddy Piper (come the fuck on btw), so lets compare.
Piper has a character, Punk dosen't.
In the ring Piper translates that character to how he works (a crazy scotsman who'll fight you to the death, but dosen't mind cheating to win) Punk does not, just the same indy "oooh japan", kick-y, jump-y nonsence. On the mic Piper is "the rowdy one"...he's fucking nuts! Punk will ocassionally break kayfabe then go "pipebomb" so the marks think he's "edgy".
But the number 1 thing I hate about punk is his attitude and his (undeserved) Ego. Listen to interviews, he's just a bitter prick. I've heard him rip on Hogan and Luger...are you fucking kidding me?!
Punk son, you've never drawn a fucking DIME! You're proven, by ratings and buyrates to but an ANTI-DRAW. The reason Cena goes on after him on Raws/PPV's isn't because of some "anti-punk conspiracy" it's because when Vince put Him, Bryan and Ryder in a main-event on Raw it hemmoraged ratings, people turned off!
Hulk-Hogan and Andre, 'Mania 3 drew 90,000 in the arena.
SummerSlam 2011, Punk and Cena, the rematch of the supposed "5 star MITB match" drew the lowest buyrate in SummerSlam's history. So Punk...who's the better worker? It ain't you, proven fact.