Well that's simply false Echelon. Wayne only started this "pop-rap" shit a few years ago, he's been rapping for well over a decade now and used to be fucking sick. He's still incredibly talented and can be good when he actually gives a fuck, but he's too busy getting high and making awful autotune pop-rap songs to give a fuck about his rhymes anymore. No Ceilings had a few good songs, but that was it.