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If TNA get's a 2nd show, what's the best option?

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MultiChannel.com has an interview up with TNA President Dixie Carter where she addresses the idea of adding more TNA TV shows to the SpikeTV line-up. Carter says, "We're very excited to know that we have a long-term future with Spike. It's my goal and desire to have additional programming come from this deal as well...I think you'll see more TNA programming on Spike in the coming years, which is very important for us."

While seeing how TNA has just signed a very important 3 year deal with Spike TV, it makes sence adding a 2nd show. It looks like TNA is important to Spike and is doing it's best to support Impact and TNA in general.

And a 2nd show has been rumored to happen for 2 years now, but finally Dixie herself comments. But now that the possibility for a new show is even closer to happening, what is the best option?

We had rumors, threads, and everything in between about a new knockouts show, then a more rumors about an all "X" show too. But really which one do you think TNA should go with?

The X-DIvision did put TNA on the map, and with WWE not having a cruiserweight division do you think an all high flying show would be what's best for TNA and the ratings?

The knockouts countinue to score high ratings for their segment, and with the wrestling industry claiming the knockout division is better then the diva division would it make sence to let them have their own show?

Or would it be the best for TNA to use the 2nd show, to help build the feuds from Impact and as a way to showcase some other stars. TNA PPV feuds seem lacking in proper stroyline and build up so would adding a 2nd show to grow certain feuds help make TNA even better?

Which do you think is the best option either for ratings, promotion, advertising, ect?

Personally I'd love to see an all womens show, but I don't know if it could sustain the ratings. Yes the knockout have some of the higest rated segments on Impact, but would the audience just get sick of girls 24/7? So while I'd love to see it, I'd just rather have the 2nd show as another way to build up storylines, freshed feuds up, build characters, and allow some of the other talent have time to shine.

Buidling on feuds, and making them PPV worthy could help buyrates and increase profit if done right.
 
Honestly I think a 2nd show revolving totally around either the Knockouts or the X-Division would be a complete and total failure. Not that those two divisions aren't extremely talented; they just really aren't draws, and never have been. Guys like Sting and Kurt Angle are why people started tuning into TNA, not Amazing Red or ODB.

Which is why they really need to have a 2nd show that just uses the entire roster. 2 hours per week is a really, really short amount of time to build meaningful feuds when you've got a roster as deep as TNA. They have so many guys who should be getting TV time, but they always end up having to make big sacrifices every week to try and just condense it to the same Impact formula week after week: MEM Promo, X-Division Match, Knockout Match, Main Event. They need to get some variety going on. Another show would definitely help in that regard as long as they focus on the entire roster, and not just the Knockouts or X-Division. That show would be seen as a circus sideshow by most fans honestly.

Either way, I'll be glad to just see more wrestling on TV. Shitty wrestling or not, any wrestling I'll tune into.
 
I'm with X here. The knockouts and the X Division need to stay what they are: special treats for Impact. We need another maybe hour or two a week of some of the midcard guys and maybe an upper midcard/main event guy. Think of Sunday Night Heat, but maybe two hours. You can recap Impact, put those WAY too long interviews on there and free up match time for the main show, and put guys like Rhyno, Kip James and some of the X-Division guys on there. They certainly have the talent to fill in another show. Maybe something like 90 minutes would be best though as they need more than an extra hour but not another Impact. either way, this could certainly work well for them if they do it right.
 
I concur that they should use the whole roster if they make a second show. I don't know what they'd call it or if it would have an alternate theme or even leaning, but I do think a second show is a good idea if only to expand the roster and separate the groups a bit so that the feuds will be a little easier to keep track of.

However, I'd also like to see a certain element of competition between the two shows, inspiring some really sick champion vs. champion matches. I'd like to see sniping back and forth on the shows, slams on the other show and their roster. It would make it even more interesting.
 
I say an X divison show give the younger talent to shine and expose them you got Elijah Burke ,Amazing Red,Suicide,Daniels,AJ Style ,Homicide,Shark Boy,Jay Lethal,Consequences Creed,Eric Young and Elite,Alex Shelly,Chris Sabin, sheik abdul bashir and Samoa Joe!
These guys need their talent to show and of course more air time is needed!
I say one hour show on the X DIvison Title and 1 hour with Knockouts as you mix it up
woul dbe a great idea!!
 
The 2nd show should involve alot of the X Division and TNA Knockouts with a lil bit of the bigger names and give it their internet only or international show or whatever it is and bring TNA Xplosion to more of a prime time flavor or make the The Spin Cycle with a (WWF Primetime Wrestling or WCW Saturday Night flavor) and do it to that taste. I really liked a show like that for wrestling to come back.
 
Personally, I have to agree with everyone who is saying to use the 2nd program for X division. With the exception of the World Elite, the X division are the ones getting downplayed for the big MEM vs. TNA feud. Also, World Elite itself is made up for the most part of people who I would consider X division, with the exception of Rob Terry and maybe Brutus Magnus (he seems smaller than Joe who a lot of people consider X division so Idk). So why not put World Elite on one show to feud with the face X division and leave MEM on Impact to feud with the face main eventers. That way theres not such a clusterf*** like that huge brawl that happened a couple weeks ago, which was awesome but can only be done like once before it gets too old.
 
I think it would be better to do a 1 hour X-Division show. 2 hours is too long to feature either of them, so 1 hour works better, that's only 3 or 4 matches depending on how long they go and with commercials and if they do promos like the regular show.

The Knockouts are the biggest draw on the company most weeks, if you give them their own show it's going to out-draw Impact consistantly, and that will make TNA a laughing stock. While they wouldn't remove the Knockouts from Impact if they had their own show, their presence would be reduced, and the people just tuning in for them will not watch Impact.

They are looking to set up a B show, and that honour should go to the X-Division. They brought TNA attention but will never out-draw the stars like Angle, Sting, Booker, Foley etc. They aren't the focal point and a lot of the time they're nothing but an after thought. In every X-Division match Tenay and West hype up how good these guys are, how much it means to them, but then they get squashed by anyone outside of the X-Division and are given one match a week if that.

If you gave them an hour to just purely wrestle, it would satisfy them, the live crowd would get the exciting wrestling that they always pop for, and they could focus on the stars on Impact without feeling guilty. You keep guys like Joe and Daniels appearing on Impact, in fact all of them from time to time, but they simply can't fit in Amazing Red on a weekly basis. On an all-X show, Red could wrestle every week. The Guns could matter. Suicide could be the dominant force they try and push him as, he could be like the Goldberg of the X-Divison.... or someone who actually wrestled, but you get the idea.

There is an audience for pure cruiserweight wrestling and this show could cater to them. It isn't as big an audience as the one that cares about stars, explosions, gimmicks and hot women, but it's there, so they will watch the X show if it's on, and it'll be a B-show to be proud of.

Oh, and 30 minute episodes of Spin Cycle need to happen too!
 
Personally, I have to agree with everyone who is saying to use the 2nd program for X division. With the exception of the World Elite, the X division are the ones getting downplayed for the big MEM vs. TNA feud. Also, World Elite itself is made up for the most part of people who I would consider X division, with the exception of Rob Terry and maybe Brutus Magnus (he seems smaller than Joe who a lot of people consider X division so Idk). So why not put World Elite on one show to feud with the face X division and leave MEM on Impact to feud with the face main eventers. That way theres not such a clusterf*** like that huge brawl that happened a couple weeks ago, which was awesome but can only be done like once before it gets too old.

I understand what your saying. I really like the X Division guys, and right now some of them are getting screwed over(Where are Lethal & Creed). But would this be what is best for TNA? I mean, I want a all women's show, but I know that might not be the best option.

Would an all X show get the ratings? Or get as many viewers if you had all the roster on it? You know TNA will do what's best for the business, so do you acutally think an all highflying X show could survive and prosper? I'm just curious...and this is to all the people who want a all XDivision or all Knockout show.

Would they be a success though?
 
Just keep it like smackdown was at the beginning, another place for the feuds to develop ETC. Impact part 2, thats what I think would be best in the beginning.
 
From the official TNA website http://www.tnawrestling.com/content/view/1648/84/
Spike TV and Total Nonstop Action (TNA) Wrestling have agreed to a new, three-year extension of their partnership, it was announced jointly today by Kevin Kay, President, Spike TV and Dixie Carter, President of TNA Entertainment.

The deal, which begins October 1, 2009, includes three new years of TNA’s weekly “iMPACT!” show as well as the addition of a new original series of one-hour specials. Each special (title TBD) will feature the biggest personalities and highlight some the greatest awe-inspiring bouts in the history of TNA, many of them never-before-seen on basic cable. TNA Entertainment will produce 10 one-hour installments.

So it appears they arent getting a true 2nd show but periodic specials that kinda sound like the TNA Epics show that they have in the UK. So sadly it looks like we wont actually be getting any new content out of this for the time being.
 
The should do what WZCW does and have the two shows but make the X Division title exclusive to one show, and the Legends title exclusive to another with the tag, knockouts and world championship flitting between the two. TNA are in no position to be doing a roster split at the moment, and two shows would be perfect for the people on the roster who get lost in the shuffle.
 
Im pretty sure Dixie has confirmed the 2nd show as a 1hr best of show. TNA's attempt at being vintage collection, but with only 7 years of history I can't see it having a long run.
 
What a complete waste - I can't beleive they've chose this option. Didn't TNA Epics do some horrible ratings? It sounds like TNA Epics, once again.

I understand it'll cost more to film more, but surely they could merge it with an Impact taping or something?

Selby
 
Book impact as it is now and give the second show something that people dont see anymore, like oldschool southern rassling.

It worked before in WCW, before Hogan and such took over. But I feel people would still watch old school type wrestling as oppossed to "that fake stuff you see on tv"

On the plus side, it gives TNA another chance to sell the ppvs, not to mention that lovely international market's money
 
TNA Epics is pretty good, but does zero-ratings. Like I have buddies who have only just gotten into TNA and have missed the classic X-Division matches and such, and Epics gives them a chance to see them.

But yeah, I'd still prefer something to showcase the underused talent. It doesn't even have to be an all-X show (but they do have more X-Division wrestlers than there are ECW wrestlers), but just something to let the lesser-used guys actually do something. A shame.
 
It has to be used to build up feuds and storylines from Impact. Sure you can thrown some X-Dision and Knockout's mathces in there, but it shouldn't be exclusive to them. This wouldn't be another brand, it'd be something like WWE Superstars. A show for those he weren't able to get time on Impact. This is something TNA desparately needs.

The reason that we have so many short matches and 8 man tags on Impact is because TNA has to find time to build up an entire PPV with only 2 hours of TV time a week. The WWE has 6 hours to do the same thing. It is nearly impossible to build up 8 or 9 matches only on Impact, so we get stuck with random matches with no build up like Abyss/Holliday.

This extra hour of TNA programming could help them immensely in building up feuds and gaining popularity. Of course, I don't see why they couldn't use the timeslot on Saturday mornings for new material instead of just replaying Impact, which is what they currently do.
 
I would absolutely love for an all X division type show, it would be absolutely incredible. I've made no secret about my love for high fling wrestling styles, and I'm not ashamed of it. An hour long show featuring X division wrestlers would be quite good. It would give wrestlers like the Motor City Machine Guns and Lethal Consequences much more TV time, that they definitely deserve.

I also like Lee's idea, as in WZCW's Meltdown and Ascension. Have the X division and Legend's title's exclusive, and share the roster. They could bring in maximum 5 or 6 new wrestlers, but that's really it. They already have enough. It could be used to further feuds, and give more TV Time.

The thing that's bad about impact! is that the limited tv time means they must either sacrifice promos or wrestling in order to get every feud time. And then you can't forget about the Main Event Mafia's necessity to make 2 or 3 promos per episode. So you have to fit them in.

But the problem with adding more feuds, is that the pay per view time is already limited. There won't be enough space for more X Division feuds or Knockouts or tag teams. Untill the mafia break up, and then hopefully there will be some more space.

So the new show would be great as a one hour X division show, think Xplosion or Xtravaganza, but would be better as a show used to further the many feuds. Name, well, maybe Collision.

Get it, Impact, Collision. Yeah.
 
Overall, the most feesible idea would probably be a second show that would expand on existing storylines and feuds. For instance, Impact has done a shit job promoting the X-Division and IWGP Tag Team Championships for the Hard Justice ppv. There was no real build up to the wrestlers involved, no real interaction between them really and it made me not give a damn about paying to see them.

On Impact, the typical formula appears to be have the MEM come out and do some sort of long winded promo, throw in a Knockout and a tag match, add an X-Division match sometimes, then throw in the main event. It's partially due to this sort of set up that a lot of talent don't really get any tv time and some potentially interesting things are just left to flap in the breeze.

Now, I myself do sort of like the idea of an all women's show but I know that it's probably not realistic. Even though the TNA Knockouts do sometimes have the most enjoyable matches on Impact, women's wrestling in the United States has never been a particularly lucrative draw. A 2nd program could be a very big thing for TNA and I doubt they'll be willing to gamble on something like an all female show. Such a thing might be interesting for a while, but I personally think that interest would significantly dwindle within a fairly short period of time.
 
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