If Buff Bagwell hadn't been released would he have had sucess?

[Matyy256]

So, I just watched this week's Chair Shot Reality and they interviewed Buff Bagwell who explained that the reason he stint in WWE was so short was because he got in a fight with Gregory Helms. He also bragged about being 40 in still in shape yet he still can't get a job. So the question is do you think Bagwell would have sucess in the WWE? Or would he have been just another former WCW guy turned jobber? I'd like to think that he would have some sucess as I was a fan of his when I was younger, but after seeing what they turned DDP into when DDP was a much bigger star in WCW then Bagwell ever was its just hard to imagine. I could see him becoming an IC or Europeon champ but World champ? Most likely not. Your thoughts?

 

[Jimmy King]

I too liked him when I was younger, but that was before I realized how much of a rip-off of Shawn Michaels he was. I was always a WCW boy. A couple of years ago, I went to an independent show in my hometown and saw Buff Bagwell tag with Rick Steiner to take on the NWO sting and some other wrestler. Buff was in shape, however, that doesn't mean he's a good wrestler. He's also one of those people who thinks their "hot shit." How dare he talk about Flair being in the ring with a nobody and refer to the nobody (Jay Lethal) as "some black boy." Regardless of what he said afterward there's no way that didn't sound racist.

Bagwell does not have a professional wrestler's mindset from a business perspective. He thinks of himself as Hogan thinks of himself. Bagwell questions why Flair was in the ring with a nobody on television but fails to realize that Flair is doing a phenomenal job putting over Lethal, not Black Machismo. Bagwell doesn't realize the job as you get older is to help establish the younger stars. He also complains about getting fired for fighting Gregory Helms in other interviews. Well, Bagwell probably still thought of Helms as the piss-on he was in WCW. However, WWE ran a great gimmick with helms for a few years under the Hurricane monicker. One of the Rock's greatest promo's involved the Hurricane. "From what I seen behind that coitun, the scorpion king...got a tiny..DINGALING!" Classic.

Anyway, my answer is no. Bagwell is too selfish for all the wrong reasons. He is a cry baby, and I found it hysterical that the WWE literally threw him out of the building on that episode of Raw.

 

[Monkey_Mania]

Yes, yes, and yes once more. Buff Bagwell had IT. Huge fan of his back in his WCW days. Great look, good charisma, and a hell of a lot of untapped talent that would have been tapped had he got in the ring with some of the best in the WWE. The dude was so fucking over in WCW. The WWE didnt really give him a chance to shine. I legit could have seen him in Evolution. I think though because of his attitude, which was really his only downfall, and his biggest problem in his career, that he himself only held himself back. Although, yes he could have been big in the WWE.

 

[waylonmercy]

Bagwell didn't have IT he had SHIT. He was a poor worker who was conceited, selfish, and didn't understand the business. He wasn't a hard working looking to better himself and the talent around him. He had a good look by WWE standards (which is why they hired him) but he had an awful attitude which is why he was fired. After that fight Helms kept his job but Bagwell got canned. He probably rubbed stars the wrong way and was lazy in the ring. I am glad he got fired and sad that he is living off the limited glory he had 15 years ago in nWo.

 

[luxferre]

Not a chance. For years WCW were calling him a star of the future....and then he proved them wrong. Look at his work when he was in American Males....awfull.

Then add in his momma issues,it's no surprise he never made it. Bad wrestler, Worse person. He was lucky to be even signed by WWE.

 

[Maestro48239]

i gotta agree with the majority here, i never liked Bagwell, the dude was a 1st class tool. hated putting anyone over, and thought he deserved a lot more then he was worth, good riddance to him!

 

[GameOver]

Buff was a bit 50/50 for me, he had the ability and potential initially, but as soon as nWo hit and he went heel, it went downhill from there.

Not losing any sleep over him not being around

 

[UFOcalling]

I actually posted something about this on CSR's facebook page. I can't believe that Buff was talking shit about Jay Lethal's program with Flair. In my opinion, Lethal shined brighter than he ever had with that angle, and Buff just sounded soooo ignorant bashing him.

Tommy Dreamer put it best in his promo on Impact this past Thursday: What Flair did for Lethal is comparable to what Terry Funk did for the ECW guys while he was there. Flair is doing what's best for the company, not what's best for Flair. I applaud him for that, he did such a great job playing "bad-guy wrestler" for Lethal. At the same time, Lethal did a fantastic job in his role as well.

Does anyone remember the promo that Buff did with Piper in WCW? It was around the time that Russo had first arrived, and the whole "new blood rising" angle was starting. From what I remember reading on the dirt-sheets at the time, Piper was supposed to cut all the young guys down, and Buff was supposed to come out to confront him. Buff could have had a main-event turn that night, and I think that was the intended effect. Instead, Buff *****ed out and gave one of the worst interviews I've ever seen. The guy sucked in the ring, and sucked on the mic. He had plenty of time during his WCW run to improve, but he never did.

In my opinion, Buff had the same opportunity back then that Lethal had recently in TNA. Buff couldn't cut the mustard then, and he wouldn't be able to cut it now. I think the reason that he was fired from WWE was because he was just a "body". I mean, girls screamed for him (even when he was a bad guy with WCW), but he could never do anything as a singles-wrestler. He always needed a tag-team partner to make him relevant. That's why he was paired with Scott Norton, Scott Steiner, etc.

Buff sounds delusional in that interview. At one point during that interview he was comparing himself to John Cena and Hulk Hogan? What the fuck? Bagwell even said that he would get "mobbed" if he went shopping at Walmart. I honestly think more people would know who Jay Lethal is than Buff Bagwell in this day and age. The nineties are over, Buff...no one knows who you are anymore, and no one cares that much about you either. I don't think many people would mark out if you made a return to either of the "big two" wrestling companies. I think the announcers would have to do a fair amount of reminding the audience of who the fuck you are.

Buff had a good look, and that's about it. So to answer your question, I don't think he ever would have had any success as a singles wrestler. The guy was a tag-teamer for life, and he wasn't even that great in that role.

 

[Jimmy King]

Buff sounds delusional in that interview. At one point during that interview he was comparing himself to John Cena and Hulk Hogan? What the fuck? Bagwell even said that he would get "mobbed" if he went shopping at Walmart. I honestly think more people would know who Jay Lethal is than Buff Bagwell in this day and age. The nineties are over, Buff...no one knows who you are anymore, and no one cares that much about you either. I don't think many people would mark out if you made a return to either of the "big two" wrestling companies. I think the announcers would have to do a fair amount of reminding the audience of who the fuck you are..

Well, he is from Georgia. Down there, Wal-Marts are where the celebrities shop. (sic)

Buff really is trying to put himself over to the independent bookers thinking "Wow, I've never heard of this Daniel Bryan guy. But I remember Buff Bagwell. Let's get mobs of people to come see him."

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

Buff Bagwell had great charisma, great body and was decent in the ring.

However, he was an absolute tool, and a mummys boy, and a bad attitude isnt going to get you anywhere in the WWE. Vince will not respect a crybaby, as we saw in Buffs case. Didnt he get his mum to ring the office for him on some occasions? That is the kinda thing you do at 12 years old when you want to get out of PE in school, not when you are working for a multi-million dollar company and you are on TV. FFS Bagwell ruined his own career, and I severely doubt WWE will ever give him another chance

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I was never really that much into Bagwell to be perfectly honest. He was pretty decent in the ring and did have a great look, but I never really got into him. I thought that he was ok overall, but I never really saw him as a main event player.

When WCW did the storyline with his mother getting involved, it easily made him look like the weakest wrestler of the 90s. I think it really destroyed what credibility he may have had and I wouldn't be surprised if it's played a big part in his career being derailed.

 

[swamprat37]

I remember Bagwell all the way back to his handsome Stranger days, but I cant say I was ever really impressed by him. He was mainly a tag team wrestler, at least that's where he had his success. I see mainly tag success if he hadn't messed it up with his attitude problems. He was already a 4time co-holder of the world tag titles, it could have been much more. He would actually (IMO) be a good partner for "Dashing" Cody Rhodes if the WWE actually cared about the tag division at all.

 

[President Evil]

So Bagwell got fired in 2001 because he got into a fight with that loser Gregory Helms? Give me a break. I can understand getting in trouble with WWE Management, main stars, hell maybe even one of the Hardy boys. But Helms?

I think Bagwell would have done well in WWE. He had the look, a ton of charisma, and could talk. Im not sure about a World title, but a solid mid-carder.

At the same time he does have the personality of an arrogant prick. Who feels as if everything should be handed to him because he's "cool" and you know that doesnt sit well with anyone.

To say the least, he should have been given another chance to see what he had.

 

[TheAnimal]

No, he was abysmal in my opinion. He was a poor mans Rick Rude to me and his ring work wasnt anything to brag about. And apparently backstage he was an idiot.
As for getting a job now, he doesnt have any name value so a nostalgia run wouldn't be worth doing, he wasnt that great in the ring so his matches wont be that good nor would he pass wisdom onto the younger guys and thirdly, WWE and even TNA seem to be trying to create new stars so there is nowhere for him to fit in.

 

[Kenny Powers]

I think Bagwell would of had the momma's boy gimmick in WWE instead of Shelton Benjamin. I don't think he would of been used or kept around much longer. It sounds like he has a big head on his shoulders and he had a drug problem at the time. He might have been European or US champ down the road. I don't think he would of made a lasting impact though.

 

[ForzaItalia]

I think Jimmy King basically summed up the answer to this question. From just hearing Buff Bagwell's interview I could tell that he would have never been successful in the WWE. He is too selfish and sounds like a Batista if you ask me who demands everything to revolve around him. Unfortunately, he had this attitude which held him back, but if he was willing to actually do as asked and not argue I think he would have become an Intercontinental or European champion and would have been in the nWo faction when they debuted on WWE TV. And that is about it.