Idea for major Wrestlemania 30 storyline?

[litarock82]

So I was thinking with the whole power struggle storyline with hhh and vince, what if after summerslam Stephanie McMahon comes out and says the board of directors has had enough of your fighting and as of right now you each own a brand, say vince gets smackdown and hhh gets raw, they have a proper draft and the brand split is back to its full potential, we could have invasins between the two brands, cross ppv events, and what not, with each vince and hhh constantly trying to out do the other brand and win the wwe title, eventually ti would lead up to wrestlemania 30 wehre hhh would fight vinces personal match guy the rock in a fight for complete comtrol of wee

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

So basically, the same guys would be fighting the same guys that they were before. In that case, there would be no reason for a brand split. Everybody is on both shows, anyways.

 

[sports_fan_2007]

A Brand split like this could definitely work. Of course the only way would be if the brands had no interaction with each other until say wrestlemania when they unify the titles (World and WWE as well as US and Intercontinental). But this can only work if Raw moves back to 2 hours...there isnt enough talent to do a 3 hour show. so if it was just HHH and Vince trying to see who had best matches on ppv it could definitely work...but Raw needs to change

 

[King Patrick Star]

I like this idea!! I had a similar idea. In my version Vince McMahon gets Raw and Triple H gets Smackdown, only because back in 2002, Ric Flair owned Raw and Vince McMahon owned Smackdown. I always felt that Vince should have gotten Raw. This also could be the storyline needed to bring back Bragging Rights. I always loved the concept, but didn’t like the execution so much. This time around, however, I would rather have all Champions allowed on both shows.

 

[hatehabsforever]

Didn't they only recently abolish the Brand Split because it was no longer working and was no longer relevant? The only way it could possibly work is if the parameters that some of the earlier posters have said were put into place 100%. No interaction between the brands. Brand specific PPV's. Two complete separate and distinct brands entirely. The problem is, logistically it will not happen. If it could function in this manner, they wouldn't have gone clear of the concept in the first place. Fans watching RAW will want to see SD guys, and vice versa. Guys on one brand will not be content being there, leading to dissatisfaction. I for one have not forgotten the brand specific PPV's, and some of those SD PPV's were pretty sparse.

Does anyone really see John Cena, or CM Punk, a returning Rock or Brock Lesnar,or Triple H appearing exclusively on a prerecorded Smackdown on Friday nights? Because I definitely do not. And hence the Brand Split should stay exactly where it is. Extinct.

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

Yes. Great idea. Have brand specific PPVs and only time both RAW and Smackdown talent were on the same PPVs are the big 4 PPVs (Royal Rumble, Summerslam, Survivor Series and Wrestlemania)

Does anyone really see John Cena, or CM Punk, a returning Rock or Brock Lesnar,or Triple H appearing exclusively on a prerecorded Smackdown on Friday nights?

Just put the returning stars like Brock Lesnar on RAW. It worked just fine from 2002-2006.

 

[Matisyahu]

I for one always liked brand split. I didnt like the the two ppvs sometimes in one month thing but other than that, it was great. I especially liked when one of the big 4 ppvs were on and guys like SD's Brock Lesnar would stumble into Raw's Goldberg and they'd talk shit to each other for example. Or the two opposing General Managers would woo superstars away from the other brand or one would fire someone and they'd get signed by the other brand. It was awesome!

The draft was always the most exciting Raw of the year for me because with the trades, new rivalries would start up and maineventers from one show would move into the main event of the other.

The problem to me is that everyone and their mom bitched and complained the entire time it was going on talking about "end the brand split its stupid" or "Raw gets all the good stars and Smackdown gets screwed!"

I think if they leveled out the shows, everything could work out good. But if their going to have Punk, Bryan, Sheamus, Cena, Orton, Del Rio, The Shield, on Raw and Henry, Big Show, Christian on Smackdown I dont think it would be worth doing. I know I left out some main eventers but I am saying if they leave Raw stacked with the top guys and have Smackdown filled with two or three top guys and the rest a bunch of undercarders, they couldnt hope to have brand exclusive ppvs because no one would watch a Smackdown ppv unless it was $20 or so. At least I wouldn't watch it

 

[Headman]

The last thing I want to see is the return of the brand split. It was a dumb idea then and it's a dumb idea now. I'm honestly shocked it lasted as long as it did.

 

[GameOver]

yeah so how is this any different then the brand split that's been in place for over a decade or the Vickie vs Teddy Long brand war or the Alliance vs the WWF
obviously they would like to head toward Vince vs Triple H for total control of the WWE at WrestleMania, doesn't take a rocket scientist to assume that. Just leave it at that and get rid of GM's period the show doesn't need it, all they need is say a Triple H or Stephanie being at the tapings for occasional onscreen interactions since they have final say anyway.

Here's an out of the box idea, Linda comes back as she did prior to WrestleMania 2000 and they have a fatal fourway elimination for total control of the company and Linda's substitute wins LOL.

Wonder how many people consider, where the hell is the board of directors in all of this? they've interjected b4 "in the name of buisness" taking away control of the GM's or Vince or Shane or Triple H and appointing there own reps like Stone Cold and HBK, yet other then mentioning they've had meetings with them periodically, they never have a say anymore (in storyline ofcourse)?

 

[Pepper Lewis]

The last thing I want to see is the return of the brand split. It was a dumb idea then and it's a dumb idea now. I'm honestly shocked it lasted as long as it did.

Exactly, why go back to the STUPID BRAND SPLIT, another WWE failure in my eyes! ( It was kinda needed, but it still sucked!)

*** If only VINCE would smarten up a bit, and RETURN THE WCW BRAND!

*** Say what you say, about the End of WCW in 2001, but at its PEAK WCW was THE BEST IN THE WORLD!

*** If Done right WCW ( World Championship Wrestling) has the same potential as WWE.

1. Bring back old school wrestling! With time limits, old style moves, awesome ring pysc, Totally new look than Raw/Smackdown! I thought the NEW WCW logo WWE did during the INVASION ANGLE REALLY SUCKED! Everything was just done so bad!

 

[MerKane]

The only way WWE should do another brand split, is if they end up buying out TNA and their superstar contracts, or something else that would somehow double the size of their roster. The Split/ Draft was fun back then, but the Superstar Depth they had back when they did it initially was far better in comparison to what it is now. Smackdown drafted superstars such as the Rock, Kurt Angle, Chris Benoit, Hulk Hogan, Edge, Chris Jericho, Christian etc. Where RAW drafted The Undertaker, The NWO, Kane, RVD, Booker T, The Big Show, Brock Lesnar, Jeff Hardy and so on. The Brands should be kept together unless the WWE ends up with an overflow of talent, much like they did after absorbing WCW & ECW.

 

[Jack G]

Like I've said on another thread - I reckon Vince & Shane vs HHH & someone huge (as a replacement for Steph), perhaps even Maddox?! But, most likely not...Austin would be awesome, one more feud with the McMahon's and siding with HHH for one last shot at Vince. I want to see Shane cross ring kick a dustbin in to HHH - TV gold.

 

[GameOver]

Exactly, why go back to the STUPID BRAND SPLIT, another WWE failure in my eyes! ( It was kinda needed, but it still sucked!)

*** If only VINCE would smarten up a bit, and RETURN THE WCW BRAND!

*** Say what you say, about the End of WCW in 2001, but at its PEAK WCW was THE BEST IN THE WORLD!

*** If Done right WCW ( World Championship Wrestling) has the same potential as WWE.

1. Bring back old school wrestling! With time limits, old style moves, awesome ring pysc, Totally new look than Raw/Smackdown! I thought the NEW WCW logo WWE did during the INVASION ANGLE REALLY SUCKED! Everything was just done so bad!

WCW being the best in the world is purely subjective, i far more enjoyed WWF from the 80's all the way up until when things went sour after , WWE went publicly traded

WCW was good in brief moments and one divison mostly (cruiserweights), same as TNA can be good in short bursts but overall it was crap compared to the production and overall storytelling of WWF at the time, but thats my opinion..

Hell WCW didn't even do live telecasts to other parts of the world, down here in Australia even on TNT it wasn't uncommon for there to be repeats of Nitro instead of new episodes then when it wasn't a repeat they didn't even show the ones we missed. WWF/E never did that

Keeping the WCW name alive i agree tho woulda been far better then just pushing Smackdown as the second brand but really it's the same thing, Smackdown was WCW effectively, that has always been the wrestling show and Raw has always the entertainment/character based show.

 

[Wald]

It's a good storyline arc that could work as a Summerslam to Wrestlemania feud provided it ended then and with a definitive winner. It has two possible flaws in it though.

Smackdown would definitely need some star power, say Orton, Sheamus, Big Show and whoever else is actually supposed to be on it now but I don't see the WWE either wanting, or being able to, keep those guys off Raw. The ratings are okayish but they don't have the talent roster that they had back in 2002 to make exclusive brands work.

The second flaw is that the storyline would obviously lead to a Triple H victory at Wrestlemania to assume total control of the WWE. So this would require Vince to retire full time as an onscreen character. He might be ready to do that but I have my doubts. I do also remember an article that stated that Vince knows he is too old to get back in the ring too, so it would have to be Triple H vs someone else with Vince in the guy's corner.

 

[thedon2001]

1. Triple H is going to get control

2. Rock wouldn't lose back to back WM's

3. Brand invasions have been happening for 10 years now

4. The WWE is, once again marketed to children and children don't care about brand splits, corporate control, invasion angles, etc.

 

[Jack G]

1. Triple H is going to get control

2. Rock wouldn't lose back to back WM's

3. Brand invasions have been happening for 10 years now

4. The WWE is, once again marketed to children and children don't care about brand splits, corporate control, invasion angles, etc.

1. But HOW will he get control, that's what were thinking about.

2. I disagree, The Rock isn't bigger than the storyline, and if that means he has to lose then he would. I see your point though and It's unlikely, but I can't get behind him now, because we EXPECT him to win purely because of who he is.

3. Yes they have, but does that mean we don't want them?

4. Children aren't stupid, when I was 10-14 years old it was the Attittude Era, and I understood everything that was happening, and wanted it! So I think children would welcome it, the Nexus angle was a big thing, and my friends children thought it was amazing that it was happening, they believe it so much more.

 

[rge2010]

I would welcome a brand split. There is so many talents that are under used and I used to love it when it was 'Draft season'....it used to feel so special seeing a Smackdown superstar on Raw and vice versa.

Having the brand split gave so many superstars a chance to shine - Batista really excelled on Smackdown and became the number two guy. Edge made Smackdown his show and from 2002-2004 he grew bigger and bigger before moving to raw and fueding with Cena. Lashley and Kennedy were also great on Smackdown but when they moved to Raw they were over shadowed.

If you want a brand split to work and you want Smackdown to be relevant then put John Cena on there. The kids will follow and the Cena haters will come back to watch Raw more often. It is just about getting the balance right....equal main eventers, equal old skool, equal up and comers...

Raw - Punk, Orton, Big Show, Triple H, Ziggler, Ryback
Smackdown - Cena, Sheamus, Kane, Jericho, Bryan, Sandow

 

[BarryHorowitzfanclub]

I have always been a proponent of a real split. And as for the PPVs, everyone only gets together for the big 4 (WM, SurvSeries, RR and SummerSlam.) Everything else is one or the other, not both.

That said, There needs to only be one WWE tagteam championship. Whatever side doesn't have the belt has to put up a challenge. I would be a sense of pride, and give the belts more meaning.

 

[MCMG]

I'm a fan of the brand split but I'm not convinced by this storyline. They might be heading down this road but I would go a different way. I'm not interested in HHH and Vince feuding which tears apart Stephanie. Can you imagine a Stephanie heel turn where she sides with her father. That would be awful.

It would require very good booking and putting some of the bigger names in this match which is something I'm skeptical about. I don't think it is entertaining watching The Big Show captain one team vs Team Miz or any of those types of talent. It should guys like The Shield, The Rock, Brothers of Destruction, Y2J, CM Punk.

My worries is that the pay-off will be HHH (with HBK as manager) vs Big Show and Vince McMahon would be co main-event of WM30. A HHH v Vince match would be even worse.

 

[lil bitch Kid]

Look, there is some merit to this IF they get this network off the ground. The reason why the Brand Spilt failed in the initial stages was that no one wanted to pay big money to watch a PPV that didn't have ALL the best guys on it. The reality is that with the Network, the way it has been presented most recently, is that the PPVs will be on the Network, with the exception of Wrestlemania. If it's up to me, I'd brand it with the secondary PPVs being brand only and a 2 hour show. RR, SS and Survivor Series would be mixed shows with no brand vs brand matches, except for the Rumble match, but 3 hours long to make them more special. Mania could have a couple of brand vs brand matches that are built up.

 

[EireLemon]

I would agree with a brand split, I see like we're seeing the same matches on Smackdown and on Raw, For instance Bryan vs Orton. But this time Smackdown needs some Star Power. Put mostly Superstars that have a bright future in WWE on Smackdown, For example, RVD, Kane, Christian, for the top star talent. Then have guys like Daniel Bryan, Dolph Ziggler, Drew Mcintyre, The Wyatts, Evan Bourne, Kofi Kingston, Sheamus, Wade Barrett, The list goes on.

Keep superstars like CM Punk, The Wyatts, Cena, Cody Rhodes, Damien Sandow, Ryback, Miz etc. on Raw. This would make things interesting. I believe Smackdown should be the mix of Raw and NXT but there should be still some Top talent.

 

[LSN80]

Exactly, why go back to the STUPID BRAND SPLIT, another WWE failure in my eyes! ( It was kinda needed, but it still sucked!)

*** If only VINCE would smarten up a bit, and RETURN THE WCW BRAND!

*** Say what you say, about the End of WCW in 2001, but at its PEAK WCW was THE BEST IN THE WORLD!

*** If Done right WCW ( World Championship Wrestling) has the same potential as WWE.

1. Bring back old school wrestling! With time limits, old style moves, awesome ring pysc, Totally new look than Raw/Smackdown! I thought the NEW WCW logo WWE did during the INVASION ANGLE REALLY SUCKED! Everything was just done so bad!

How would this be different from the Brand Split, exactly? You would have the WWE brand, and alternatively, the WCW brand. One would get a Monday Night Show, the other, the Friday.

So I was thinking with the whole power struggle storyline with hhh and vince, what if after summerslam Stephanie McMahon comes out and says the board of directors has had enough of your fighting and as of right now you each own a brand, say vince gets smackdown and hhh gets raw, they have a proper draft and the brand split is back to its full potential, we could have invasins between the two brands, cross ppv events, and what not, with each vince and hhh constantly trying to out do the other brand and win the wwe title, eventually ti would lead up to wrestlemania 30 wehre hhh would fight vinces personal match guy the rock in a fight for complete comtrol of wee

With no offense intended towards the OP, I'm not a fan of this idea, and further, it wouldn't work. There was a reason, back in 2011, that WWE did away with the brand split. There simply wasn't enough talent to book both shows. As of now, WWE struggles to book both shows, with a lot of filler. Can you imagine how diluted things would be then? We could get 3MB headlining Smackdown main events, like the freaking Spirit Squad did at the Vengeance PPV in 2006. Wait, Sally might like that.

A better idea would be for them to just cut out the idea of a brand split, and re-do the Trump/McMahon angle from WM23, but instead of a head shaving, for control of the company. It's where they seem to be headed anyway, and it wouldn't dilute shows moreso then they already are. As for the Rock fighting for Vince? I'd rather it be a Batista, who's rumored to be returning, since Vince is obviously the heel here, and the Rock is simply not going to be received as a heel. Batista would be.

As for each picking a representative? That works, and fits with the HHH character that he would fight for himself.

 

[YESwhatYESwhatYES]

I don't agree with splitting the brands again. A lot of people I grew up watching wrestling with credit the brand extension as the reason why they stopped watching. I think it's working now and if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it!